White Phoenix of the Crown vs Rebirth Doctor Manhattan

White Phoenix of the Crown (Jean Grey) vs the current Rebirth version of Jon Osterman, aka Doctor Manhattan.

Random encounter.

Morals off.

Fight takes place in Cerulean Cave.

Who wins? My personal opinion is WPOTC btw.

Is Rebirth Manhattan the same version from Watchmen?

@the_kidd: yes. But the current Rebirth version has more feats than the Manhattan we see in Watchmen.

What are his feats per se? Not familiar with Watchmen, but last I've heard, regular Doctor Manhattan doesn't compare to even Dark Phoenix. Those were old threads though, there wasn't much debate on the subject as far as I could remember, and we are talking about a relatively similar version of Manhattan with new feats.

@pyrofn: Manhattan is the one who created the New 52 and DC Rebirth timelines.

@rhysdurden: Has Manhattan been confirmed that he was the one that created the New 52 and stole so many ears from DC??? Or are you just guessing...?

@jardinain2: Geoff Johns has confirmed that Manhattan is the main antagonist and the one who created New 52 and Rebirth. It even says on Wikipedia...

@rhysdurden: Link.

@jardinain2: here: https://www.newsarama.com/35504-official-the-mastermind-of-dc-s-rebirth-is-dr-manhattan.html

Interesting. So he is very high, at least universal, possibly multiversal, but lacks feats. This will be an interesting one.

@pyrofn: yup, ikr.

@rhysdurden: Neat didn't know that, you're the first person I've met who's given me actual proof.

Do we have an upper limit to the rebirth blueman yet? If not this versus is impossible to know.

@rhistr: well, Doomsday Clock is coming this November.

Phoenix stomps.

Bump.

Manhattan.

By feats He's 4D.

Bump.

Probably Manhattan.

Since he prevented FLASHPOINT timeline from getting erased after flash changed the timeline.

Dr. Manhattan.

Bump.

Obviously White Phoenix of the Crown.

Dr Manhattan not even close