Whis vs Dark Schneider

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Even though Whis hasn’t “displayed” the ability to use hakai, he should be able to preform it. The barrier surrounding the audience in the ToP set up by Grand Priest was able to tank a universe creating explosion by Toppo in the world of void.

Dbs top tiers are more powerful than we know we are sadly restricted to on panel feats. So possibly Bastard.

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#102  Edited By CaoCao

Hakai doesn´t work against Darsh, unless Beerus or Whis has someone erased from a higher existence that exist beyond space and time (Astral plane), plus it was stated (By Beerus) and shown (Against Zamasu) that Hakai doesn´t work when he reached the immortality. The only argument for Whis is his speed, but based on abilities, he has no way to put Darsh down. Darsh has at least Bloodstone to make Whis kill himself.

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@varricpatermann: dark Schneider cannot kill both. Beerus has dark Schneider completely out match in terms of Speed power and durability the it's only one condition against beerus is to get him to kill himself..

He can. Bloodstone curse is somethin where nowhere has an answer against it. Durability at this point isn´t even relevant, because it shares the damage, not the attack.

And Whis stats are even higher to an unknown degree.

How does it help him against Darsh?

These kinds of battles are so dumb.

They are, since we are using a mostly featless character in battles.

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Lmfao beerus destroyed a gag ghost.

Zamasu immorality was granted by fucken super shenron... That guy is probably as powerful as Zeno.

Hakai legit deletes your body, spirit and soul.

Even Beerus one shot him, Hakais him, seals him into a toilet LOL

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@bossmountain said:

@varricpatermann: dark Schneider cannot kill both. Beerus has dark Schneider completely out match in terms of Speed power and durability the it's only one condition against beerus is to get him to kill himself..

He can. Bloodstone curse is somethin where nowhere has an answer against it. Durability at this point isn´t even relevant, because it shares the damage, not the attack.

And Whis stats are even higher to an unknown degree.

How does it help him against Darsh?

These kinds of battles are so dumb.

They are, since we are using a mostly featless character in battles.

Eh? Of course Darsh can kill Beerus and Whis, since both doesn´t have any answer against his BS curse. Let´s say Beerus or Whis are using Hakai against Darsh, both are getting destroyed on a physical and spiritual level, while Darsh regenerate from the Astralplane. The Astralplane exist beyond the space-time continuum structure, it is like Beerus destroyed the universe and Darsh still regenerate, since his astral existence isn´t bound by the universe.

Zamasu his immortality and regeneration is below Darsh his astral existence, since it is bound by space and time.

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#106  Edited By DrunkHC

Beerus destroys the human soul without powers dr Mashirito had to turn into a cyborg and at the end of Dr.Slump he became almost completely a robot due to losing parts of his body after suffering damage, Mashirito is killed at the end of the manga.

Dr Mashirito is not a gag character!

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#108  Edited By Animeisniche_ok

You don't even need Hakai.

Whis doe not have to destroy anything outside the physical plane :) and Whis would even survive that, cuz he's immortal :) :) :)

But Goku would probably die :(

Most here legit never read bastard haha.

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Still waiting for any arguments, how Whis can kill Darsh his astral-plane.

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#110  Edited By Animeisniche_ok

Wow.

I legit feel bad for DS.

Whis has so many ways to destroy him: Hakai, sealing, nuke his universe (Gokus ki was threatening to destroy the other world, which is the same as DS verse), or if I'm remember correctly, it's enough to destroy 1 plane of the verse, because they require each other.

If I remember correctly, the ghosts of Goten or buuhan were made of the same stuff found in ghosts/spirits, so a KI user can destroy them or even hurt (?) them. So maybe whis could do some crazy stuff with KI manipulation... Lol.

Whis five shots.

DS shield is good VS guys who can one shot him, but thats it.

Judas priest won't do shit, it's just a blast and Whis can dodge that with ez... Even easier with MUI.

He can tank absolute zero with ez.

Poor DS :((

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Is this still open? Hakai doesn´t work against immortals, and not against higher dimensional concepts. Even Zeno can´t erase Darsh his astral plane from existence, since it exist beyond time and space. The only advantage that Whis has, are his stats, but Darsh oneshots with Bloodstone… oh sorry, it is more like Whis oneshots himself, when he try to kill Darsh. Other then him and most DB characters, Darsh has a really competent regeneration + immortality. Imagine, how Whis is trying to kill Darsh via atomize him, at the end Whis atomize himself, while Darsh regenerate complete.

Darsh neg diffs that fodder, unless Whis has shown more feats and abilities, that may more useful against him.

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@varricpatermann said:

Is this still open? Hakai doesn´t work against immortals, and not against higher dimensional concepts. Even Zeno can´t erase Darsh his astral plane from existence, since it exist beyond time and space.

What the hell are you talking about Zeno could definitely erase him for good his power literally erases everything universes including the physical plane, astral plane, and spiritual plane he wiped out the multiverse with a wave of his hands

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#113  Edited By VarricPatermann

@gentlemantophat said:

@varricpatermann said:

Is this still open? Hakai doesn´t work against immortals, and not against higher dimensional concepts. Even Zeno can´t erase Darsh his astral plane from existence, since it exist beyond time and space.

What the hell are you talking about Zeno could definitely erase him for good his power literally erases everything universes including the physical plane, astral plane, and spiritual plane he wiped out the multiverse with a wave of his hands

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The universe doesn´t include even the astral world, so i don´t know how Zeno is erasing Darsh, when he only erase the universe, or the timeline. The astralplane exist on a higher level then even Zamasu.

The astral world is a higher dimension and and not part of the space-time continuum.

Zeno (At least the DBS version has no way by feats, to kill current Darsh).

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Pls stop bumping this Missmatch.

I already heard from my redditt and quora boys, that DS is super overrated here.

If we use Bastard!! Logic, Goku alone already reached the th dimension.

In the next few months/years we will learn more about KI manipulation and I'm sure that even guys like Gohan could trash DS.

I think even Krillin could stomp him by the end of this year, cuz he already destroyed Astral enemies with the mix of his mind and KI.

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#115  Edited By DrunkHC

Dark schneider wins this fight indirectly already done several times. DS cannot be killed by these aliens full of limitations and weaknesses.

Goku(DBS) gets beaten all the time Moro in H2H humiliated this shit ...

There is no logic behind this wank/ headcanon, nobody wants to read more about invented feats, powers and powerscalle

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Dragon ball is not overpower just accept!

Dark schneider wins

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The astral/spirit in DB and the astral plane in Bastard!! is complete different. While the spirit world is part of the universe in DB and bound by time and space, the astral plane in Bastard!! is a higher concept, outside of time and space.

Body, Spirit and Soul in Bastard!! are in complete different dimensions, and to kill Darsh you have to erase him on all 3 different planes complete from existence. If you fail, he regenerate complete.

We know the fact that Hakai can´t kill Immortals (Stated by Beerus) and proven by Goku his try to kill Zamasu with Hakai, who regenerate after the successful attack.

Unfortunately, Hakai is the only ability that can do something to a relevant degree to kill Darsh on two planes of existence. Still not enough to affect the third plane. Even Zeno can´t erase Darsh from a technical point of view, by feats.

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@drunkhc: look at this dumb troll once again. All you do is post scans every post . freaking crybaby