Whis (DBS) vs Juubi Madara (Stats equal)

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Mismatch. Juubidara stomps with equal stats.

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Madara with the stats of an Angel is a pretty scary thought.

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@mattyboi: what's the point of the equal stats matches

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#6  Edited By Animeisniche_ok

@mattyboi: can he resist hakai? I only watched Top DBS so I dont know muc about whis.

Limbo wouldn't do anything cuz he has mastered ui (better than gokus) and he can sense ki.

Beerus seal technique works against a nigh omnipotent and Whis teached him that.

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@animeisniche_ok: When did Whis obtain destruction god energy? Was this in the manga?

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@animeisniche_ok: I'm pretty sure Hakai only works if you're stronger than the person.

Limbo can definitely work, even if he can sense it. I doubt he can though since it''s from a different dimension so ki sensing wont work, he'll have to rely on UI, but even with UI he's not taking on 5 people at once(Madara and his Limbo). Plus Madara's immortal.

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This is my fav fight haha

@mattyboi: beerus hakaid a ghost.. So maybe it works VS immortals :0

Didnt Whis make Bulma 5 years younger? How old is madara? Couldn't he make Madara 100 years younger or maybe turn him into a baby?

Maybe Madara could just absorb Whis power? (he did that vs hasimara)

I doubt he would have problems with 5+ opponents

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Madara wins this with equal stats.

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Whis stomps

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@animeisniche_ok:

Didnt Whis make Bulma 5 years younger? How old is madara? Couldn't he make Madara 100 years younger or maybe turn him into a baby?

Whis has time rewinding powers, but not to that extent. I don't recall him making Bulma 5 years younger...

Maybe Madara could just absorb Whis power? (he did that vs hasimara)

Only if he pinned Whis with chakra rods, though not sure if it would work outside of Naruto.

I doubt he would have problems with 5+ opponents

5 opponents of equal stats*. Kefla is much slower than Omen which is why he danced around her like that.

beerus hakaid a ghost.. So maybe it works VS immortals :0

I think it does, but it wont work here since Madara has equal stats.

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#13  Edited By Animeisniche_ok

@mattyboi: Whis dodged Gogetas IT but im not sure if he used ultra instinct.. Maybe it was just his normal speed without mui.

Imo the mix of TPs, mui and flying could work vs 5+ opponents

Couldn't Whis make Madara clothes/staff etc. Super heavy? Maybe he could make Madara cloths and staff 100000 tons heavy... Madara is strong but I doubt he can lift that much lol

He can change the weight of an object

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#14  Edited By Arthur_Morgan

depends what you think whis got in the hax department.

UI gives a advantage from the start as we saw with beerus incomplete UI vs the other GoDs.

the reason jiren could start handling it was because goku wasnt used to it and it had a toll on him.

whis wont habe these problems.

he can bring back life and can only be erased when he violates the angel laws and probably only by GP the one who created them.

they are immortal so i am pretty sure killing them in a normal way wont be a problem for them to come back.

so either sealing and depends what kind of sealing because angels can travel dimensions or erase them but we dont know how GP erases them.

And a bunch of other sht.

so this match is stupid because we dont even know how angels actually work.

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No point of this tbh. Whis hasn't even revealed half of his abilities

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@animeisniche_ok:

Imo the mix of TPs, mui and flying could work vs 5+ opponents

Whis doesn't tp. And MUI isn't working on 5 opponents with the same stats, maybe 2 at max.

Couldn't Whis make Madara clothes/staff etc. Super heavy? Maybe he could make Madara cloths and staff 100000 tons heavy... Madara is strong but I doubt he can lift that much lol

Whis so far has only made stuff heavy for Vegeta and Goku who are fodder to him, I highly doubt he can make something heavy for someone with his stats.

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Time Manipulation, Destruction Energy, Ultra Instinct


Whis stomps.

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Whis destroys

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Whis barely has any combat feats at all and what little we do know he can do is pretty much useless here

Madara murder stomps with equal stats via his hax

And the fact that Whis can't put him down since he's Immortal

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Whis isn't doing anything with equal stats. He matches Madara in hand to hand with his ultra instinct, but he doesn't have any answers for Madara's abilities. Whis doesn't really have skill showings either since he's never been in a 'fair' fight. Practical application his various abilities he has showcased doesn't really exist.

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#21  Edited By Eredin12  Online

Whis stomps, he taps ground and Madara and his planet telekinetically explode

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What is the point of these equalized stat matches, especially when characters like Whis have shown barely anything yet?

I feel like these are made just to spite DB characters.

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Whis dimension dumps Madara.

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Pretty sure Madara doesn't have dimensional travel so Whis just BFRs him to his staff, drops couple million tons on his head or throws him into the Sun with TK.

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By feats Madara should win, I think

@mattyboi: what's the point of the equal stats matches

it boils down to skill and hax

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Whis teleports him in the middle of a supernova.

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What is the point of this match? You're putting a character with minimal combat hax against a pretty good haxxer in a scenario where Whis is designed to lose.

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What is the point of these equalized stat matches, especially when characters like Whis have shown barely anything yet?

I feel like these are made just to spite DB characters.

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Fights starts.

Whis rewinds time to kill Madara as a baby.

Only to find out the entire fight was under Genjutsu.

Madara kill Whis while he is under Genjutsu.

Flawless victory.

GG no re.

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#31  Edited By gelato_exotic

Whis solos the verse equal stats or not, this is ridiculous, if anything its a spite in his favor even though he hasn't even tried once in the entire run of DBS so far.

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#33  Edited By jonathancarlton

@gelato_exotic said:

Whis solos the verse equal stats or not, this is ridiculous, if anything its a spite in his favor even though he hasn't even tried once in the entire series.

Whis solos the verse, only in his dreams.

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Whis laughs at Madara and sends his students to solo the verse.

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#35  Edited By jonathancarlton

@gelato_exotic said:

Whis laughs at Madara and sends his students to solo the verse.

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Only to find out that the entire event was all under Genjutsu.

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#36  Edited By gelato_exotic

@jonathancarlton: Tag me when (if) Naruto verse even reaches index finger level in DBZ, aight bro? Not tryna hear any Naruto characters stacking up to DB with Genjutsu nonsense. Kyoka Suigetsu>>>>>>>Genjutsu anyways, the former which might actually make it past Saiyan Saga characters unlike Genjutsu.

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Juubi Madara with hax can easily stomp because he has access to Limbo, Izanagi, Izanami, Tsukoyomi, Human Path, Asura Path, immortality, etc

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@jonathancarlton: Tag me when (if) Naruto verse even reaches index finger level in DBZ, aight bro? Not tryna hear any Naruto characters stacking up to DB with Genjutsu nonsense. Kyoka Suigetsu>>>>>>>Genjutsu anyways, the former which might actually make it past Saiyan Saga characters unlike Genjutsu.

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Juubi Madara with hax can easily stomp because he has access to Limbo, Izanagi, Izanami, Tsukoyomi, Human Path, Asura Path, immortality, etc

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Whis barely has any combat feats at all and what little we do know he can do is pretty much useless here

Madara murder stomps with equal stats via his hax

And the fact that Whis can't put him down since he's Immortal

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I'd say that the latter has somewhat of an edge due to hax.

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#42  Edited By gelato_exotic

Whis can:

-Hakai him out of existence

-Rip him apart without even moving via telekinesis

-One tap the planet with his staff which has no correlation to his stats

-Seal him

-Dimension dump him in his staff

-Neg Genjutsu and humiliate him in H2H with complete perfect UI, which doesn't need the 5 senses or even the user to be conscious to operate

-Rewind time and neg whatever Madara tries

-Heal and revive himself

Did people just forget that its even stated Angels can't be killed without being erased by something like violating the Angel Code?

TSB is doing jack shit to Whis if it can't even dream of tagging him.

Madara has no way to win here.

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@gelato_exotic:

1. Resists EE

2. lol equal stats

3. with what he resists that shit

4. he can travel dimensions

5. haha what Whis is fodder in H2H to madara and any feats of using that in a infinite dream world

6. sure why not

7. Madara can do it also

huge NLF he can die to any attack strong enough or he can be erased which madara can do