Which version of Madara is strongest?

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1. EMS Madara (no Kyuubi)

2. EMS Madara with Kyuubi

3. Edo Tensei Madara

4. Blind Revived Madara (Sage Mode + v1 cloak chakra)

5. Revived Madara (one Rinnegan restored)

Please state your reasons.

Added entries in bold.

The third Madara has access to his EMS abilities, his Rinnegan abilities and the addition of Hashirama cells, which grants him Wood Release and Sage Mode. And all that power allowed him to restrain the Tailed Beasts.

He may not be immortal nor have unlimited chakra, but he's already overwhelmingly powerful anyways.

@muratdemir30: The Sharingan sould easily subdue and control the Kyuubi. Obito's Rinnegan controlled 6 Bijuu through Pein Rikudo (Six Paths of Pain). Rinnegan Madara more easily controls the Kyuubi than EMS did.

Edo Dual Rinnegan Madara.

@muratdemir30: EMS Madara has no answer to Limbo clones. Also, Rinnegan Madara has Hashirama's sage mode which stomps Kurama.

Edo tensei Madara is the strongest. Immortality and infinite chakra is just...

2nd place goes to rinnegan + sage mode. Hax as hell

Ems Madara is the weakest but with kurama can possibly beat rinnegan madara

Though according to Kabuto Edo Madara is stronger than his prime. Not sure who is right anymore

Sage Mode with 1 rinnegan.

@revold: This shouldn't be a question if you've read the series.

3>1>2.

3>1>2, edo are weaker than living versions

SM Madara is the strongest version because he has access to the rinnegan and the gedo statue which has the combined power of all the bijuu and it eats bijuu for breakfast. All his stats are higher and if he were to fight the other versions they would be one shotted before entering susanoo due to limbo

So what's your answer and reasoning?

The one eyed madara of course.

Edo are generally weaker than they were alive, that was further shown to us by Kishi when SM madara straight up blitzed Naruto after being reborn.

He can easily replicate what the other two can do to an even higher level and he has limbo which would one shot.

1. Rinne tensei SM madara with 1 rinnegan is the strongest - this version of madara already awakened rikudou chakra, SM boosts his normal jutsu's like susano/PS etc due to his chakra being more potent. (That means his all around stats are boosted) and limbo murders EMS Madara casually. Edo madara could atleast see limbo with rinnegan. Should also be able to use hashi's moukhtun techniques to the fullest, like SS which shat on EMS madara + kurama

2. Edo Madara - Edo madara is more versatile (moukhtun + rinnegan techs) and haxxer (immortality + Rinnegan techs, unlimited stamina) than EMS Madara with kurama. But EMS madara has more fire power.

3. EMS Madara with kurama - this version of madara has more fire power than edo madara (11 Tailed beast ball infused with PS blade >> Regular PS or meteor) but overall I think he is weaker due to lacking in other departments.

IIRC he only blitzed base/SM Naruto. Edo Madara reacted and deflected BM Naruto's Bijuu dama.

Revived Madara has Outer Path but not the left Rinnegan paths like Preta and Deva. He also don't have his Sharingan and MS abilities. Edo Madara doesn't have Sage Mode but he could get it even more easily with Preta Path or Black Receivers.

Limbo clone is cool but Edo Madara only needs to absorb Six Paths Chakra to counter it since he already has the relevant Dojutsu. Plus he has immortality and unlimited stamina, so he can take a few hits before that while his clones do what's needed. Tbh he might even already have Six Paths Chakra since he was connected to the Juubi before.

@revold said:

@the_alchemist01 said:

@revold said:

@the_alchemist01 said:

@revold: This shouldn't be a question if you've read the series.

So what's your answer and reasoning?

The one eyed madara of course.

Edo are generally weaker than they were alive, that was further shown to us by Kishi when SM madara straight up blitzed Naruto after being reborn.

He can easily replicate what the other two can do to an even higher level and he has limbo which would one shot.

IIRC he only blitzed base/SM Naruto. Edo Madara reacted and deflected BM Naruto's Bijuu dama.

Revived Madara has Outer Path but not the left Rinnegan paths like Preta and Deva. He also don't have his Sharingan and MS abilities. Edo Madara doesn't have Sage Mode but he could get it even more easily with Preta Path or Black Receivers.

Limbo clone is cool but Edo Madara only needs to absorb Six Paths Chakra to counter it since he already has the relevant Dojutsu. Plus he has immortality and unlimited stamina, so he can take a few hits before that while his clones do what's needed. Tbh he might even already have Six Paths Chakra since he was connected to the Juubi before.

That doesn't matter, Kishi stated it that Edo's are weaker and slower than when they were alive and what do you mean the "outer paths" a rinnegan is a rinnegan one eye does not possess certain powers.

Note that madara used his humanoid susanoo to shatter the sand shield when he was revived without his eyes so it doesn't matter, the preta path part can also be countered with the fact that SM Madara is far faster and stronger deflecting a bijuu dama can easily be done by SM madara too.

The only problem is the unlimited stamina thing and can be countered via black receivers and no its not IC for madara to spam clones.

Also the JUUBI DOES NOT POSSESS SIX PATH POWERS.

@the_alchemist01 said:

@revold said:

@the_alchemist01 said:

@revold said:

@the_alchemist01 said:

@revold: This shouldn't be a question if you've read the series.

So what's your answer and reasoning?

The one eyed madara of course.

Edo are generally weaker than they were alive, that was further shown to us by Kishi when SM madara straight up blitzed Naruto after being reborn.

He can easily replicate what the other two can do to an even higher level and he has limbo which would one shot.

IIRC he only blitzed base/SM Naruto. Edo Madara reacted and deflected BM Naruto's Bijuu dama.

Revived Madara has Outer Path but not the left Rinnegan paths like Preta and Deva. He also don't have his Sharingan and MS abilities. Edo Madara doesn't have Sage Mode but he could get it even more easily with Preta Path or Black Receivers.

Limbo clone is cool but Edo Madara only needs to absorb Six Paths Chakra to counter it since he already has the relevant Dojutsu. Plus he has immortality and unlimited stamina, so he can take a few hits before that while his clones do what's needed. Tbh he might even already have Six Paths Chakra since he was connected to the Juubi before.

That doesn't matter, Kishi stated it that Edo's are weaker and slower than when they were alive and what do you mean the "outer paths" a rinnegan is a rinnegan one eye does not possess certain powers.

Note that madara used his humanoid susanoo to shatter the sand shield when he was revived without his eyes so it doesn't matter, the preta path part can also be countered with the fact that SM Madara is far faster and stronger deflecting a bijuu dama can easily be done by SM madara too.

The only problem is the unlimited stamina thing and can be countered via black receivers and no its not IC for madara to spam clones.

Also the JUUBI DOES NOT POSSESS SIX PATH POWERS.

Yes Edo Tensei reanimations are physically weaker in general, but in return they get unlimited chakra and can use all the abilities they got at any point in their lifetime. This is a bad trade-off for the likes of Hashirama, but for Madara it is good trade-off since he gets both Sharingan and Rinnegan abilities which he had at different periods of his life, and unlimited chakra which covers his weakness.

Madara spammed 25 clones against Gokage so it's in character. You realise against Hashirama, he didn't use any abilities he got from Hashirama (Wood Release, Rinnegan etc.) probably due to pride or desire for a good fight whatsoever. Since he's undead he also won't be affected by Deep Forest Bloom, but not for revived Madara.

Juubi possesses Six Paths Chakra which is why Juubito has Six Paths powers.

@occhidifalco11: Get ur head out ur arse. rinnegan madara limbo gg then seals edo madara.

madara alive with one rinnegan, because he can use full power of the rinnegan and that includes Limbo.

3, 1, 2.

Edo is weaker and when you have as much power as Madara the whole unlimited chakra thing isn't a huge benefit. Not many people in his verse can drag him into long fights where it'd matter.

One rinnegan Madara is the strongest. Order of strength would be 3>1>2

@cyberblades22: No, 3 then 2 then 1. Edo tensei madara is above EMS madara wtf?

@wabubub: He didn't just gain unlimited chakra mate, he gained hashiramas wood release plus rinnegan abilities. EMS madara's only benefit is being physically stronger and faster.

If we go by in universe then Edo Madara should be the strongest form by default. He should have waited until he had killed everyone and then proceeded to come back to life. I do not know what person gives up perfect immortality for partial regeneration immortality that can turn you into a chick. Granted Madara could had not none about this but regardless. Don’t play with fire or you are going to dance with it.

EMS with full Kurama obviously

Just half of Kurama is pretty powerful but 100% + Perfect Susanoo ?

@themingebaron66: The thread asks which version of Madara is the strongest, EMS Madara is already stated to be stronger than Edo Madara according to Hashirama.

Since the only other Madara that Hashirama fought was EMS Madara it's obvious he's referring to him, edo Madara failed to break edo Hashirama's deity gates while base rinne tensei Madara casually broke them and a stronger sage mode rinne tensei Madara was stated to be regaining Madara's past strength (EMS Madara's strength) meaning EMS Madara > Edo Madara (in strength). Edo Madara stalemated against Edo Hashirama who was stated to be below his alive self, EMS Madara fought against alive sage mode Hashirama which would automatically put him above edo Madara in terms of power, adding Kurama (which OP has added to EMS Madara) would give him even more firepower. If Alive Madara (rinne tensei) is above edo Madara and sage mode blind Madara is stated to be regaining Madara's past strength, that would mean edo Madara is not even on base Hashirama's level.

Edo Madara's only advantage is unlimited chakra, immortality, fake edo rinnegan, and hashirama cells which would give him more versatility and morepower but not enough power to beat EMS Madara, especially with Kurama since it's already stated that EMS Madara has greater strength.

3>1>2.

Why was this bumped?

This shouldn't need to be asked if you've actually seen the series

It still goes

3>1>2

3>1>2

OP edited with 2 added entries

to make it more interesting

Edo Madara definitely isn’t.

Not a battle.

EMS Madara with Kurama is the strongest; Majestic Attire: Susanoo is far stronger than having Limbo or cheap Mokuton.