do not compare verses that is not allowed to like comic, game, etc to dbz
do not mention verses on the lv of toriko or below dragonball
which verse is close to dbz verse?
Torikoverse
read op and toriko is a bit below
Torikoverse
read op and toriko is a bit below
Then none, Most verses are below or above dbz
Saint Seiya is generally above DBS.There is also Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann which should be equal or slightly below due to the omni king.
There's Tenchi Muyou characters that are easily above DBS characters.
Metal Gear Verse. Solid Snake does CQC on Beerus and ko's the God of Destruction
Seriously though. The measure of martial arts in fiction all dates back to classic Asian Wuxia and their tropes of warriors mastering martial arts to the point of surpassing human limits and gaining supernatural powers. Therefore, any human-limited martial artist (Batman) is going to be inferior to any limits-broken martial artist (Iron Fist) and that is why the Dragon Ball franchise consists of the greatest martial artists in all of fiction. They've taken this "martial arts to surpass human limits" approach all the way to f&%$ing universal, effectively omnipotent levels. The Metal Gear series DOES include a couple characters whose skill has reached supernatural proportions; Vamp being the prime example, the fact that he's actually NOT a real vampire and is actually just some dude who's really good at fighting was a plot twist during MGS4. Before that, characters literally thought he was some kind of inexplicable superhuman. So Vamp obviously surpasses the likes of Batman and Captain America by supernatural feats and IMO surpasses the likes of Iron Fist as well (he is seen sitting on the surface of a pool of water meditating, he can read muscle movements, he knows how to bind shadows, he can break steel and fight on par with a Cyborg all without any actual physical enhancements) yet... Solid Snake is still the greatest soldier to ever live in Metal Gear. Not Vamp. When people talk about "the man who makes the impossible, possible", they're talking about Solid Snake, not Vamp. So when it actually came down to a fight between Solid Snake and Vamp... Snake borderline fodderized him. Despite Vamp's skills in martial arts reaching that supernatural-plateau.
Snake doesn't know any fancy skills like chi control or muscle reading. His training is all about incapacitating an opponent, as efficiently as is possible. That's it. When it comes to stealth he's got some of those inexplicable supernatural-level feats, like when he not only casually snuck up right behind Raiden's back, but appeared from thin air in a narrow corridor with only one entrance, and when Raiden turned around, nobody was there, but when he said Snake's name Snake inexplicably materialized from thin air (Snake not being visible isn't a weird programmer oversight, it's a part of the plot. Big Boss has a very similar feat during TPP. It seems that a lot of fans undersell the sneaking abilities of the Snakes due to the fact that we see things from their perspective usually, so we know exactly how it is that they accomplish their tasks, but every single time a Snake is seen from somebody elses perspective, their stealth abilities appear inexplicable and supernatural). But martial arts wise, he's not about that fancy stuff. He's about incapacitating another humanoid opponent. And that is why I rank him as one of the top peak human fighters in fiction, and why I think he can beat guys like Iron Fist, Wolverine, etc.
But compared to Dragon Ball, obviously it's two completely different standards. Dragon Ball martial arts surpassed Metal Gear the instant Muten Roshi got serious. Even though current Revengeance characters have the power to surpass Kame Sennin and possibly defeat him in battle, martial arts-wise, Raiden and Jetstream Sam are nothing compared to him.
@mrx1122: Its true. Franklin creats pocket universes for fun
@sophia89: how many characters can cory beat?
@mimisalome: pokemon is definately not a match for dbz, for sailor moon idk, what lv are their characters
@mimisalome: dude???
@mimisalome: dude???
im pretty sure there are atleast a character of universal level buster on those series
@mimisalome: dude???
im pretty sure there are atleast a character of universal level buster on those series
these verses are way above dragonball
@shadowshock: zeno will wreck saint seiya verse will absolute ease
Tenchi Muyou, from what I've heard. The Chousin are apparently nigh-omnipotent beings while Kami Tenchi is even above them.
Edit: I thought the OP asked which verse is above DBS. In that case I'll say Saint Seiya.
@antonio_1996: "troll alert"Dragonball is no where near tenchi muyo
@antonio_1996: "troll alert"Dragonball is no where near tenchi muyo
When did I state or imply otherwise?
@antonio_1996: I said which verse is on dbs lv, not whixh verse is above dbs
Dragon Ball franchise consists of the greatest martial artists in all of fiction. They've taken this "martial arts to surpass human limits" approach all the way to f&%$ing universal, effectively omnipotent levels
Read more Xianxia, if you find dragonball characters impressive.
Greatest in all of fiction is a bit of a stretch for fodder.
@jasonhitto: lol no.Cronus>Zeno
@reaverlation said:
Metal Gear Verse. Solid Snake does CQC on Beerus and ko's the God of Destruction
None really. Dragonball wither outclasses or falls short to other verses.
But then there is Zeno the outlier to end all outliers who can't destroy multiple Universes at once.
None that I can think of. They're either above or below.
None that I can think of. They're either above or below.
Pretty much this.
Dragon Ball franchise consists of the greatest martial artists in all of fiction. They've taken this "martial arts to surpass human limits" approach all the way to f&%$ing universal, effectively omnipotent levels
Read more Xianxia, if you find dragonball characters impressive.
Greatest in all of fiction is a bit of a stretch for fodder.
Okay obviously I haven't actually read every story in all of fiction. Yes I was making an exaggeration.
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