Who among the Sternritter are capable of defeating Bankai Yamamoto, and why
Which Sternritter can beat Bankai Yamamoto?
Gremmy thinks.
yhwach as well, uyru as well,lille as well. allso bazz-b with a burner finger.
@rikuyamaha: @ourmanuel: Didn't Gremmy lose to shikai Kenpachi? Or was that already bankai, I don't recall. What about Gerard though, would Yamamoty be able to put him down?
@marvelfan1992: gremmy was fighting shikai ken. the only reason gremmy lose was cause he didn't believe in himself. Composed gremmy can just tp yama in space and kill him or think his bankai is gone and gg.
uyru gets burned but uses anti to kill yama.
lille shoots holes into yama.
bazz has the same heat as yama and has long range, one burner finger is enough.
Vollstandig Lille, Gerard.
Possibly Uryu and Haschwalth.
gremmy was fighting shikai ken. the only reason gremmy lose was cause he didn't believe in himself. Composed gremmy can just tp yama in space and kill him or think his bankai is gone and gg.
Uh no, reason why Gremmy lost was because he couldn't imagine a body that could handle Zaraki's level of power which resulted in a recoil of spiritual power that ultimately killed him. Problem for Gremmy is that Zanka no Tachi >>>> Nozarashi.
Yeah, nothing you suggested is going to happen. Space BFR requires 7 Gremmy's, and there's no way any of them can withstand being so close to Yama's Zanjitsu Gokui. Also, what's stopping Yamamoto from Shunpo'ing out of Galaxy Room before it closes?
bazz has the same heat as yama and has long range, one burner finger is enough.
>Bazz-B one-shotting Bankai Yama with one finger.
Hilarious. Bazz's flames aren't nearly as powerful as Yama's, or do you mean to tell me I imagined Bazz getting KO'ed for an entire fight by a casual Ryujin Jakka attack?
Vollstandig Lille, Gerard.
Possibly Uryu and Haschwalth.
gremmy was fighting shikai ken. the only reason gremmy lose was cause he didn't believe in himself. Composed gremmy can just tp yama in space and kill him or think his bankai is gone and gg.
Uh no, reason why Gremmy lost was because he couldn't imagine a body that could handle Zaraki's level of power which resulted in a recoil of spiritual power that ultimately killed him. Problem for Gremmy is that Zanka no Tachi >>>> Nozarashi.
yeah the first part i was trying to say. thanks.
Yeah, nothing you suggested is going to happen. Space BFR requires 7 Gremmy's, and there's no way any of them can withstand being so close to Yama's Zanjitsu Gokui. Also, what's stopping Yamamoto from Shunpo'ing out of Galaxy Room before it closes?
he could shunpo out of it, but what is stopping gremmy from turning his bankai off, turning him into cookies and dropping him into a cavern, water prison jutsu,and just filling him full of holes. last thing i knew was yama struggling with stenritter y who is vastly lower then gremmy.
bazz has the same heat as yama and has long range, one burner finger is enough.
>Bazz-B one-shotting Bankai Yama with one finger.
Hilarious. Bazz's flames aren't nearly as powerful as Yama's, or do you mean to tell me I imagined Bazz getting KO'ed for an entire fight by a casual Ryujin Jakka attack?
i think you frogot when bazz nulled yamas ryujin jakka with his own flames.
and i never said one shot, he could spam burning finger 1 and just pump yama full of holes from long range. and yeah, you imaged it.
if you remembering this.
everyone else but bazz got K.Oed.
but good job correcting me on my gremmy thing, i couldn't put it in words at the moment and i thank you for that.
What's stopping Gremmy from turning his Bankai off?
The fact that he can't? You're applying a no-limits fallacy on Gremmy's reality-warping when there are clear limits placed on it. Gremmy can't deactivate Zanka no Tachi in the same way he can't deactivate Nozarashi. It involves manipulating a level of power beyond what he can handle. That and he'll never think of doing it.
What's stopping Gremmy from turning him into cookies?
Again, because he's up against someone of far greater spiritual power than him. Gremmy maximized his power by cloning himself six times and had all of them kamikaze Zaraki in his face with the intent to kill him. Yet, Zaraki didn't even budge from his spot and defied Gremmy's expectations. If Gremmy can't do as he likes against Zaraki at max power, how can he transmute someone that's even more powerful than him?
water prison jutsu and just filling him full of holes.
Do I have to explain this when his opponent is YAMAMOTO?
last thing i knew was yama struggling with stenritter y who is vastly lower then gremmy.
Lolwut? Bankai Yamamoto negged Royd Llyod. Read the fight again.
i think you frogot when bazz nulled yamas ryujin jakka with his own flames.
yeah, except that never happened. Did you forget that Bazz-B got knocked out along with 2 other Sternritters? What Bazz-B did was reduce the power of the flames so that it didn't incinerate them into ashes. However, there was still enough power left to incapacitate him for the duration of Royd vs Yamamoto fight. Look at how severely burned Bazz-B is from that attack. And that was far from Ryujin Jakka's strongest attack.
and i never said one shot, he could spam burning finger 1 and just pump yama full of holes from long range.
You overrate Burning Finger 1. First off, you have to prove those flames can even hurt someone of Yama's reiatsu level when Bazz-B's flames have been proven to be far weaker than Ryujin Jakka. Recall that Yamamoto smothered out Ryujin Jakka's strongest attack with his body, an explosion that would have nuked the large city-sized Karakura Town as well as a land area exponentially greater than that. Recall that this was something that Aizen and the other captains feared the most for its destructive power.
Second, this is Bankai Yamamoto so you have to prove his flames aren't just going to get blocked by Zanjitsu Gokui, a 15-million degree armor that has the potential to destroy the entire Soul Society dimension. Does Bazz-B have flames that are anywhere near as hot as the core of the Sun or can destroy one of the 3 worlds? Nope. And if you suppose he does, then why didn't Yhwach mention him as one of the Sternritters who could handle Zanka no Tachi, and by spamming his most basic attack at that? Why did Yhwach say he was the only one who could handle his power hmmmmm?
everyone else but bazz got K.Oed.
Categorically wrong. If Bazz didnt get KO'ed, where was he for the entire Royd vs Yamamoto fight? Why did Royd chastise Bazz-B for entering a fight beyond his scope instead of praising him for nullifying the flames? And why did he just recently wake up after Yamamoto was killed, with severe burns all over his body?
What's stopping Gremmy from turning his Bankai off?
The fact that he can't? You're applying a no-limits fallacy on Gremmy's reality-warping when there are clear limits placed on it. Gremmy can't deactivate Zanka no Tachi in the same way he can't deactivate Nozarashi. It involves manipulating a level of power beyond what he can handle. That and he'll never think of doing it.
didn't say gremmy had no limits, i was implying that he probably could cause of his power.
What's stopping Gremmy from turning him into cookies?
Again, because he's up against someone of far greater spiritual power than him. Gremmy maximized his power by cloning himself six times and had all of them kamikaze Zaraki in his face with the intent to kill him. Yet, Zaraki didn't even budge from his spot and defied Gremmy's expectations. If Gremmy can't do as he likes against Zaraki at max power, how can he transmute someone that's even more powerful than him?
the whole point of the battle was to show how powerful kenpachi is and to give him a good opponent. the reason he didn't do it was because no one stood up to him before.
water prison jutsu and just filling him full of holes.
Do I have to explain this when his opponent is YAMAMOTO?
yeah, your point is? probably hes gonna evaporate the water, good point, but whats stopping said gremmy from spamming the same move over and over.
last thing i knew was yama struggling with stenritter y who is vastly lower then gremmy.
Lolwut? Bankai Yamamoto negged Royd Llyod. Read the fight again.
read it before, he still had trouble with him(though not that much). then yhwach shows up and instant kills him.
i think you frogot when bazz nulled yamas ryujin jakka with his own flames.
yeah, except that never happened. Did you forget that Bazz-B got knocked out along with 2 other Sternritters? What Bazz-B did was reduce the power of the flames so that it didn't incinerate them into ashes. However, there was still enough power left to incapacitate him for the duration of Royd vs Yamamoto fight. Look at how severely burned Bazz-B is from that attack. And that was far from Ryujin Jakka's strongest attack.
true, i was trolling with bazz but my option on his counter attack still stands.
and i never said one shot, he could spam burning finger 1 and just pump yama full of holes from long range.
You overrate Burning Finger 1. First off, you have to prove those flames can even hurt someone of Yama's reiatsu level when Bazz-B's flames have been proven to be far weaker than Ryujin Jakka. Recall that Yamamoto smothered out Ryujin Jakka's strongest attack with his body, an explosion that would have nuked the large city-sized Karakura Town as well as a land area exponentially greater than that. Recall that this was something that Aizen and the other captains feared the most for its destructive power.
Second, this is Bankai Yamamoto so you have to prove his flames aren't just going to get blocked by Zanjitsu Gokui, a 15-million degree armor that has the potential to destroy the entire Soul Society dimension. Does Bazz-B have flames that are anywhere near as hot as the core of the Sun or can destroy one of the 3 worlds? Nope. And if you suppose he does, then why didn't Yhwach mention him as one of the Sternritters who could handle Zanka no Tachi, and by spamming his most basic attack at that? Why did Yhwach say he was the only one who could handle his power hmmmmm?
i haven't overrated it. i simply said yama couldn't tank it with his normal body. that what i was implying. and no one in the sternritter army could handle zanka, thats why he couldn't. AP doesn't equal SP.
everyone else but bazz got K.Oed.
Categorically wrong. If Bazz didnt get KO'ed, where was he for the entire Royd vs Yamamoto fight? Why did Royd chastise Bazz-B for entering a fight beyond his scope instead of praising him for nullifying the flames? And why did he just recently wake up after Yamamoto was killed, with severe burns all over his body?
honestly dont know this one, i am severely tired at the moment. so for my sanity and yours, im gonna regress.
Yhwach for obvious reasons.
Lille since he can’t be touched.
Gerard since he will just grow stronger and has ranged attacks.
Maybe Gremmy, as long as he keeps his distance.
That’s about it tbh. Askin would get one shot killed so his ability will be useless, Pernida’s strings would probably burn up, and Jugram doesn’t really have the feats to win.
Yhwach, Lille, and Gerard definitely can. Gremmy, Askin, and Pernida all have the potential to beat Yamma as well, but I would only give the first 3 the majority.
Jugram Haschwalt -Balance gg,all the roasting misfortunes gets double reflected.
Askin Le vaar -deathdeal GG, becomes immune to yama reiatsu...and yama might not be able to maintain his bankai in a poisoned state
Gerard Valkyrie -could go either way, yama could seal him in his sword and turn him to ash zombie but then again miracle might not let that happen
Gremmy Thoumeaux - visionary GG, if Gremmy gets bloodlusted.
Lille Barro - X-axis gg
Loyd Lloyd -Yourself potentially GG,could copy Yama's bankai,and could probably withstand the heat... However yama will still likely win.
Ishida Uryu-Antithesis Potentially GG, however antithesis doesn't seem as passive as balance, so he could Eventually lose
Gremmy gets negged. Except for some reason Lille doesn’t absorb heat to stay warm anymore, he gets negged. Haschwalth gets negged. Gerard probably stalemates or wins due to regen
What is this supposed to mean? Are you talking about base Lille? Heat is a physical property, so it shouldn't affect him while intangible.
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