Which is a better feat, NF Elektra vs 10 Hand or NF Punisher vs 9 Valhalla guys?

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Which fodder-defeating feat do you find more impressive for the respective characters, in context?

Elektra in Defenders episode 3. She is Black Sky, and is only just barely retrained and re-acclimated to being alive. She has two sticks, and defeats 6 guys also armed with sticks fairly quickly. Then, immediately after, she is unarmed and defeats 10 Hand, who are armed with katanas, in the dark. She kills them quickly, taking two of their swords in the process.

Punisher in Punisher season 2, episode 10,. He is shot multiple times by rubber bullets and salt shotgun shells (as described later) in his chest body armor, back body armor, and thigh; sliced at least 7 times by knives; hit multiple times by guys holding weapons such as a wrench, crowbar, and baseball bat while he is standing up; beaten more by those weapons and kicks while lying on the ground; and is stabbed again on the ground. Then he gets up and takes them all out fairly quickly, more or less acting as if he wasn't hurt, taking their guns and knives and using them against them. My count is that there are 9 guys (I'm not counting Billy, who isn't part of the fight).

In other words, do you think it would be more impressive for the just-retrained low-level superhuman Black Sky Elektra to beat the 6 guys with sticks and the 10 Hand with swords, given their level of skill, in the dark; or, for the massively-beaten standard-human Punisher to beat the 9 armed Valhalla guys, given their level of skill?

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Bonus round: Elektra in Daredevil season 2, episode 13. She is a normal human, and beats 20 Hand on her own, partially off-screen, while Daredevil fights Nobu.