Well, which one was more impressive?
What’s more impressive—Wonder Woman headbutting Superman or Thor having Hulk reeling from his lightning punches?
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Thor.
But of course, Wonder Gal hurt SuperMustache. It's definitely not like she was a bloody fly in his presence. That can't be the case or deal old Wonder Woman wouldn't be physically comparable to high tiers! Oh no! What to do!
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the protagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
Thor better obvs.
I dont think Superman did expect the wonder woman headbutt. He was moved even from simple bullets when he was not expecting it. Besides it didnt even make superman flinch so for me thor lighnting punch was better and it created pretty big shockwave.
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the antagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
DCEU High Tiers are superior to MCU High Tiers but the way you're putting the nuke feat is way overblown. 1) the nuke LITERALLY killed him. He had to be revived by the sun. Not only this, but it was a weakened nuke because it took place in space.
All Diana did was make Clark budge. How is that in the least bit impressive?
Her headbutt did nothing to Superman so I don't see why it'd be impressive. Thor's lightning hits did a lot more damage and made a huge shockwave
@supremegeneration: The only thing that would be weakened is the concussive force. The heat is still 150 million and the radiation gets amplified in space.
Diana obviously seeing as the durability gap between hulk and superman is massive
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the antagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
Wonder Woman, because we've seen what Superman can do in terms of raw power.
I think some users don't know what literally means.
Literally has a few meanings, the one I am sure was used here was this:
in a literal manner or sense; exactly.
Thor by a mile.
The headbutt did next to nothing but push Superman's head back and then he returns the favor and grounds her.
Hulk and Thor are on a similar level, Wonder Woman did some damage to someone massively more powerful than herself
I'll say hitting outside your weight class is more impressive
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So do you.
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the antagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
yeah this.
I'm a big Thor fan but what MCU did to their so called "Top Tier" is laughable.
So do you.
I've watched it several times, she did nothing to him that a simple bullet didn't do in Man of Steel. If that is your definition of damaging him I'd hate to see your definition of what Doomsday did to him.
So do you.
I've watched it several times, she did nothing to him that a simple bullet didn't do in Man of Steel. If that is your definition of damaging him I'd hate to see your definition of what Doomsday did to him.
By that measure, Thor didn't do anything either since Hulk just got back up... but because he doesn't have anything near Superman's level of durability his fat mass just wobbles around longer.
So do you.
I've watched it several times, she did nothing to him that a simple bullet didn't do in Man of Steel. If that is your definition of damaging him I'd hate to see your definition of what Doomsday did to him.
By that measure, Thor didn't do anything either since Hulk just got back up... but because he doesn't have anything near Superman's level of durability his fat mass just wobbles around longer.
Yes because pushing someone's head back is so much better than sending someone flying dozens of meters and actually making them take time to get back up. Such great logic.
Yes because pushing someone's head back is so much better than sending someone flying dozens of meters and actually making them take time to get back up. Such great logic.
Such great logic that doesn't recognize the vast gulf between the capabilities of the characters he's dealing with?
Yes because pushing someone's head back is so much better than sending someone flying dozens of meters and actually making them take time to get back up. Such great logic.
Such great logic that doesn't recognize the vast gulf between the capabilities characters he's dealing with?
The gulf of power(that isn't as large as you seem to think) doesn't mean shit when she didn't do shit to Superman. If she had actually hurt him, then that argument could be made, but she didn't. She barely even annoyed him. But, I'm about to leave for work so, have fun.
The gulf of power(that isn't as large as you seem to think) doesn't mean shit when she didn't do shit to Superman. If she had actually hurt him, then that argument could be made, but she didn't. She barely even annoyed him.
Thor punches Hulk and he flies a few feet away isn't as impressive as you like to think compared to someone who can throw a train from one post code and into another.
@worldofthunder: antagonists?
@outside_85: First Thor sent hulk flying at least a dozen meters, not a few feet. Second neither Wonder Woman or Superman have ever "thrown a train from one post code to another" in the DCEU.
@outside_85: I see this low-ball everywhere. You do realize the reason Hulk only went "a few feet" is because of how he punched him right? The angle of which he hit him made the Hulk flip over. This is apparent in the visuals and just plain logic. If this wasn't the case then why would a much weaker attack, like the one of the Hellicarrier, send him flying but not this one? Angle of the hit buddy.
@outside_85: First Thor sent hulk flying at least a dozen meters, not a few feet.
Second neither Wonder Woman or Superman have ever "thrown a train from one post code to another" in the DCEU.
Oh wow.... maybe someday he might reach 'Hancock throwing a whale' levels...
No, but one of the Kryptonians in MoS did. You know this argument is strangely familiar to me; pushing and/or punching Hulk some distance vs a kryptonian doing more yet gets lowballed....
Well annoying someone with a head butt isn't exactly as impressive as sending him flying couple meters back with a punch. However, the only difference here is that Superman is incredibly more durable than the Hulk but I'm not quite sure if giving him a tiny headache is as equally as impressive as knocking the Hulk few meters back with a lighting imbued punch therefore I'm inclined to give Thor the "W". His lighting imbued punches would probably stagger Superman the same way Cyborg energy-blast did.
@outside_85: lmao You obviously have zero idea of how far he would have had to throw the train CAR to throw it from one postal code to another. Nam-ek did not even come CLOSE to throwing it that far. It didn't even travel half the distance of a small tann much less even 1/1000 the distance required to be throwing it from one postal code to another. Are you ok? Would you like directions to your nearest eye doctor?
@outside_85: lmao You obviously have zero idea of how far he would have had to throw the train LOCOMOTIVE to throw it from one postal code to another. Nam-ek did not even come CLOSE to throwing it that far. It didn't even travel half the distance of a small tann much less even 1/1000 the distance required to be throwing it from one postal code to another. Are you ok? Would you like directions to your nearest eye doctor?
Would you like the number to the Arkham Asylum? They seem to be missing you.
Wonder woman didn't do anything to Superman except tell him how much Force was necessary to subdue her without using too much
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the antagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
DCEU High Tiers are superior to MCU High Tiers but the way you're putting the nuke feat is way overblown. 1) the nuke LITERALLY killed him. He had to be revived by the sun. Not only this, but it was a weakened nuke because it took place in space.
All Diana did was make Clark budge. How is that in the least bit impressive?
Nearly killed him* If he'd been killed then the sun wouldn't heal him. How can a dead organism be healed if it's killed? Why wasn't Zod revived by the sun like Superman? If he was killed, how was he healed by the sun but he wasn't healed by the sun after Doomsday stabbed him?
Weakened nuke? The nuke was still within Earth's atmosphere meaning that it wasn't completely in space yet. There was still a gigantic fireball. Even then, the nuke could have been 300KT, or 50MT, it doesn't matter because Clark was at the core, the heat alone would be enough to destroy absolutely anything, and the power of it is leagues beyond anything Thor can accomplish. Also, radiation hurts kryptonians as the scientist at the start explained so that played a part as well. Hell, radiation hurts any living organism and kryptonians haven't shown immunity to it. Best of all is that Clark was weakened when he survived this. Hahahaha
And your point is...? Making Clark budge is far beyond what Thor's lightning can do, and this is an understatement. Anything, ABSOLUTELY anything, that can survive at the core of a nuke, be it a 300kt or 50mt nuke, wouldn't even notice getting hit by MCU Thor's lightning. Thor's most powerful lightning is so laughably miniscule in comparison to a nuke and its power, and heat, that saying that Thor's lightning can even tickle Clark is just dumb and shows that you'll throw all logic out of the window just to make Thor look powerful. It's very basic to understand.
DCEU high tiers are just that much stronger, if you have an issue with that ask Marvel Studios why they made their high tiers so weak.
Also, the fact that Thor fans acknowledge this just goes to show.
@outside_85: Great job projecting your failings on me. Just to further illustrate, Nam-ek didn't even throw the train car half a mile. The AVERAGE postal code covers 90 square miles. But sure you keep believing he somehow threw the train car from one postal code to another. Just gives me something to laugh at while I'm at work.
And Thor's lightning wouldn't even tickle him.
@worldofthunder: That is an argument for another thread. Keep it on topic.
@worldofthunder: That is an argument for another thread. Keep it on topic.
I am keeping it on topic. I'm comparing what Thor's lightning would have done to Superman in comparison to what Wonder Woman did. His lightning wouldn't even phase someone who survived at the core of a nuke while weakened and far weaker than he was at the time when Diana headbutted him.
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the antagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
DCEU High Tiers are superior to MCU High Tiers but the way you're putting the nuke feat is way overblown. 1) the nuke LITERALLY killed him. He had to be revived by the sun. Not only this, but it was a weakened nuke because it took place in space.
All Diana did was make Clark budge. How is that in the least bit impressive?
Not to butt in or anything of the sort. But it still detonated in the atmosphere otherwise there wouldn't be any blast or any fireball visible from the Gotham's skies to begin with due to the lack of air. And the nuke did not kill him, if it did he would have remained dead, the radiation was the only thing from the Nuke that damaged him or simply drained his cells from solar energies.
Superman took a a nuke to the head and survived at the core of it. A nuke is thousands of times more powerful than anything Thor as ever put up, including his strike against Hulk. Logically his most powerful lightning bolt would at most tickle anyone or anything that has survived or stayed in one piece at the core of a nuke. The fact that Wonder Woman did that with a simple headbut makes hers far more impressive. Of course Thor fans refuse to accept simple logic just because it's Superman and Wonder Woman. For some reason a lot of people struggle to accept that DCEU high tiers just are THAT much higher than MCU high tiers in power. They think that they are equally powerful just because they're the antagonists of their universe. They absolutely aren't. Not by feats.
DCEU High Tiers are superior to MCU High Tiers but the way you're putting the nuke feat is way overblown. 1) the nuke LITERALLY killed him. He had to be revived by the sun. Not only this, but it was a weakened nuke because it took place in space.
All Diana did was make Clark budge. How is that in the least bit impressive?
Not to butt in or anything of the sort. But the still detonated in the atmosphere otherwise there wouldn't be a blast or a fireball visible from the Gotham's skies to begin with due to the lack of air. And the nuke did not kill him, if it did he would have remained dead.
Exactly. Not to mention he himself was actually weakened at the time.
@outside_85: Great job projecting your failings on me. Just to further illustrate, Nam-ek didn't even throw the train car half a mile. The AVERAGE postal code covers 90 square miles. But sure you keep believing he somehow threw the train car from one postal code to another.
Just gives me something to laugh at while I'm at work.
Thats not me projecting, thats just you looking in the mirror.
Well, does your boss know you are a pillock that doesn't get jokes? Or as he already called the cops?
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