Can be any Dragon ball franchise including movies.
What is the most powerful energy blast in DBZ
@ninjawarrior268: What about for sayains?
@firestarlord73194: @just_banter:Saiyan blasts anyone?
Saiyans? That's easy.
Lmao.
@ninjawarrior268: What about for sayains?
Universal spirit bomb
@just_banter: The only appropriate response.
What about for sayains?
The strongest blast would probably be Vegeto's "Final Kamehameha" from Dragon Ball super Episode 66 though it didn't do jack to Merged Zamasu.
The strongest move would probably be Future Trunks' Fandubbed Spirit Sword which he used to cut the immortal Merged-Zamasu cleanly in two during the same episode. Though if you want to be technical, Trunks is only half-saiyan and thus might not count. Not to mention the Spirit Sword is an attack made from the energy of a variety of different lifeforms.
If you're just going for the most impressive looking Blast, Brody destroys the South Galaxy in a movie once.
He didn't do that in one shot, though. It took him a whole 30 years to ravage the galaxy.
If we're talking about specialty attacks, then it's either the Shin Kikoho or the Final Flash based on feats. Vegetto's Final Kamehameha logically should be way stronger than the Final Flash, but it's got a weak AF feat.
Other attacks are strong just because the user is strong, like Zeno's universe destroyer. That's strong because he's literally the strongest being in existence. It's not all that special alone.
@gnomishness: What about goku's Original SSG Kamehamaha?
What about goku's Original SSG Kamehamaha?
Objectively weaker then the Final Kamehameha all things considered.
@gnomishness: Good point
Vegito's Final Kamehameha. I guess Gogeta's 100x Big Bang Kamehameha would be close second.
Are video games included? I thought this was the shows and movies. The x100 thing is video game exclusive.
When Zeno busted a universe.
Zeno's universal blasts.
@colonelsanders: lol it took broly 30 years to ravage the galaxy? Why did King Kai only decide to say something when the Galaxy was almost completely blacked out?
@colonelsanders: lol it took broly 30 years to ravage the galaxy? Why did King Kai only decide to say something when the Galaxy was almost completely blacked out?
Kaios are extremely prideful. It wasn't his jurisdiction, and only became an issue when the Northern Galaxy was next up in the queue. Plus, he's not the most observant seeing as he didn't even know Freeza, the supposed tyrant of the universe, was in his backyard until it was discovered on Namek.
If you look at the way the destruction is phrased, the narrator says that the South Galaxy "has fallen" under attack (present tense), Kaio says the South Galaxy "really is being" attacked (present tense), and he says "at this rate" – none of those things make sense if the galaxy had already been one-shotted by Broly. Most of the movie takes place in the South Galaxy, which wouldn't make sense if Broly had decimated it. Goku lands on a busted planet, which wouldn't make sense if everything was gone. Broly destroys the slave planet midway through, which wouldn't make sense if it should've already been destroyed. There are also flashbacks depicting Paragus and Broly having been at this destruction since Broly was at least a teen.
I don't know what the English dub fed you, but absolutely nothing in the original Japanese version supports Broly one-shotting the entire Southern Galaxy.
"the galaxy has fallen under attack" sounds like something just recently happened. Not over a 30 year span lol and do you know how many planets and stars make up a galaxy? Just because we can still see planets left (That Paragus left on purpose) and the movie takes place there doesn't mean Broly couldn't have destroyed the rest in one shot or in one setting.
"the galaxy has fallen under attack" sounds like something just recently happened. Not over a 30 year span lol and do you know how many planets and stars make up a galaxy? Just because we can still see planets left (That Paragus left on purpose) and the movie takes place there doesn't mean Broly couldn't have destroyed the rest in one shot or in one setting.
The flashbacks show Broly wreaking havoc as far back as his teens, and he's the same age as Goku, so yes, it would appear he's been at it since at least that far back. It lines up perfectly with everything being present tense rather than past tense as you originally claimed. The galaxy can't be presently under attack if it's already been destroyed. I'm not denying Broly potentially has the power to knock out a galaxy, but he definitely didn't do it all at once like you're suggesting, because the flashbacks contradict this notion. Either he's already destroyed the galaxy or he hasn't, it cannot be both.
However, I am willing to admit that even the movie itself can be somewhat inconsistent with its idea of what exactly is going on/happened, after reading some off-site posts on the matter again. I'll just quote that post since it's better than what I could have said:
So...it seems a little inconsistent. The narrator at the start just describes the Southern Galaxy as having "fallen under Super Saiyan attack". But later, Goku refers to Broli as having "destroyed" the Southern Galaxy, and Kaio at the start says "at this rate even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed", implying the Southern Galaxy has been destroyed, or will be destroyed soon. Then when Paragus outlines his plan for universal domination, he says his empire would include the North, East, and West Galaxies...but conspicuously fails to mention the South Galaxy, implying it's not there to be ruled any more.
On the other hand, Paragus describes the Legendary Super Saiyan as "wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy", while Kaio tells Goku that the Legendary Super Saiyan has "already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy". Most importantly, after telling Goku this, Kaio then instructs him to "go check the Southern Galaxy". At which point Goku teleports to a planet filled with ruins. So even if the Southern Galaxy has been "destroyed" in some sense, at least part of it is still there.
On that note, after Goku thinks to himself that Broli is the one who "destroyed" the Southern Galaxy, he shortly thereafter semi-repeats himself, saying that Broli is the Super Saiyan who "ran riot through" the Southern Galaxy. So it seems like all this makes the most sense if we treat "destroy" in this context as meaning that Broli attacked/laid waste/etc the Southern Galaxy. That is, he just went from planet to planet destroying the civilizations there, leaving ruined planets like the one Goku visits for a bit. The only thing that seems to indicate that he literally wiped it out completely is the opening shot of the spiral galaxy thingy dissolving into blackness, but this doesn't jibe too well with what we see/are told throughout the rest of the movie.
There's no line flat-out saying that New Planet Vegeta is in the Southern Galaxy. But Paragus at one point says that his true plan is to set up his base on "Earth, in the Northern Galaxy", implying that New Planet Vegeta is somewhere outside the Nouthern Galaxy. And after Paragus tells Vegeta that the Legendary Super Saiyan is "wrecking havoc" through that portion of the Southern Galaxy, he adds that "at his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…" Which could be taken to mean that New Planet Vegeta is also in the Southern Galaxy. Or it could just mean that Paragus is (pretending to be) concerned that once the Legendary Super Saiyan is finished with the Southern Galaxy, he'll move on to wherever New Planet Vegeta is, just as Kaio is concerned that his own Northern Galaxy is going to come under attack next. Anyway, I guess it ultimately doesn't matter too much one way or the other in regards to the big question at hand, since there's still that one ruined planet Goku visits which is definitely supposed to be in the Southern Galaxy. So we know there's actually at least a planet or two left there, whether or not New Planet Vegeta is one of them.
Also, a bit more on what the movie means by "destroy": it's said that Broli "attacked" Planet Shamo, after which its inhabitants were moved to New Planet Vegeta. But Planet Shamo is clearly still physically there, since we see Broli actually blow it up midway through the movie. This seems consistent with the idea that Broli went around attacking planets by destroying the cities/civilizations on them, rather than blowing them up Freeza-style. This is still consistent with Paragus omitting the Southern Galaxy from his list of stuff his big fancy empire will include; even if the Southern Galaxy is still around, it's now basically uninhabited (a ghost galaxy!), so there's not really anything to "rule".
Well Gokus pinky toe can shoot multiversal level energy blasts at a power level of 58484.29299^4e so by doing some totally legit power scaling that totally works, his casual attack can probably kill TOAA, the Presence, etc while destroying every work of fiction ever made. His strongest? Well that 4882882.482929^74829291e times over.
For real, probably what @Gnomishness said for sayins, and zenos universe destroying blasts for all of dragonball. But that's no fun. So I'm gonna have to agree with @just_banter.
Vegito's Final Kamehameha. I guess Gogeta's 100x Big Bang Kamehameha would be close second.
Are video games included? I thought this was the shows and movies. The x100 thing is video game exclusive.
Video games are allowed.
Vegito's Final Kamehameha. I guess Gogeta's 100x Big Bang Kamehameha would be close second.
Are video games included? I thought this was the shows and movies. The x100 thing is video game exclusive.
Video games are allowed.
then this
"the galaxy has fallen under attack" sounds like something just recently happened. Not over a 30 year span lol and do you know how many planets and stars make up a galaxy? Just because we can still see planets left (That Paragus left on purpose) and the movie takes place there doesn't mean Broly couldn't have destroyed the rest in one shot or in one setting.
The flashbacks show Broly wreaking havoc as far back as his teens, and he's the same age as Goku, so yes, it would appear he's been at it since at least that far back. It lines up perfectly with everything being present tense rather than past tense as you originally claimed. The galaxy can't be presently under attack if it's already been destroyed. I'm not denying Broly potentially has the power to knock out a galaxy, but he definitely didn't do it all at once like you're suggesting, because the flashbacks contradict this notion. Either he's already destroyed the galaxy or he hasn't, it cannot be both.
However, I am willing to admit that even the movie itself can be somewhat inconsistent with its idea of what exactly is going on/happened, after reading some off-site posts on the matter again. I'll just quote that post since it's better than what I could have said:
So...it seems a little inconsistent. The narrator at the start just describes the Southern Galaxy as having "fallen under Super Saiyan attack". But later, Goku refers to Broli as having "destroyed" the Southern Galaxy, and Kaio at the start says "at this rate even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed", implying the Southern Galaxy has been destroyed, or will be destroyed soon. Then when Paragus outlines his plan for universal domination, he says his empire would include the North, East, and West Galaxies...but conspicuously fails to mention the South Galaxy, implying it's not there to be ruled any more.
On the other hand, Paragus describes the Legendary Super Saiyan as "wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy", while Kaio tells Goku that the Legendary Super Saiyan has "already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy". Most importantly, after telling Goku this, Kaio then instructs him to "go check the Southern Galaxy". At which point Goku teleports to a planet filled with ruins. So even if the Southern Galaxy has been "destroyed" in some sense, at least part of it is still there.
On that note, after Goku thinks to himself that Broli is the one who "destroyed" the Southern Galaxy, he shortly thereafter semi-repeats himself, saying that Broli is the Super Saiyan who "ran riot through" the Southern Galaxy. So it seems like all this makes the most sense if we treat "destroy" in this context as meaning that Broli attacked/laid waste/etc the Southern Galaxy. That is, he just went from planet to planet destroying the civilizations there, leaving ruined planets like the one Goku visits for a bit. The only thing that seems to indicate that he literally wiped it out completely is the opening shot of the spiral galaxy thingy dissolving into blackness, but this doesn't jibe too well with what we see/are told throughout the rest of the movie.
There's no line flat-out saying that New Planet Vegeta is in the Southern Galaxy. But Paragus at one point says that his true plan is to set up his base on "Earth, in the Northern Galaxy", implying that New Planet Vegeta is somewhere outside the Nouthern Galaxy. And after Paragus tells Vegeta that the Legendary Super Saiyan is "wrecking havoc" through that portion of the Southern Galaxy, he adds that "at his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…" Which could be taken to mean that New Planet Vegeta is also in the Southern Galaxy. Or it could just mean that Paragus is (pretending to be) concerned that once the Legendary Super Saiyan is finished with the Southern Galaxy, he'll move on to wherever New Planet Vegeta is, just as Kaio is concerned that his own Northern Galaxy is going to come under attack next. Anyway, I guess it ultimately doesn't matter too much one way or the other in regards to the big question at hand, since there's still that one ruined planet Goku visits which is definitely supposed to be in the Southern Galaxy. So we know there's actually at least a planet or two left there, whether or not New Planet Vegeta is one of them.
Also, a bit more on what the movie means by "destroy": it's said that Broli "attacked" Planet Shamo, after which its inhabitants were moved to New Planet Vegeta. But Planet Shamo is clearly still physically there, since we see Broli actually blow it up midway through the movie. This seems consistent with the idea that Broli went around attacking planets by destroying the cities/civilizations on them, rather than blowing them up Freeza-style. This is still consistent with Paragus omitting the Southern Galaxy from his list of stuff his big fancy empire will include; even if the Southern Galaxy is still around, it's now basically uninhabited (a ghost galaxy!), so there's not really anything to "rule".
Yeah no, the flashback show broly destroying some random planets which can be anywhere and they have to actually go to south galaxy.
Its hilarious how people come up with all these retarded theories to downplay when what happened is right on the screen
:)
he destroyed it in one shot, thats what happened, facts
also according to your theory broly has to be MFTL to destroy all those planets otherwise he would die of old age lol. Do you people actually think before coming up with these crackpot theories. So, here are you choice broly is MFTL or broly is a galaxy buster.
Zeno's universe bust would be the best, assuming that can actually be classified as a Ki blast rather than some kind of technique similar to Hakai.
With exception of Zeno the strongest on screen would be when Beerus and Goku were about to destroy the Universe and the Cosmos with their combined force but there are people even above both of them...
Vegito's Final Kamehameha. I guess Gogeta's 100x Big Bang Kamehameha would be close second.
Are video games included? I thought this was the shows and movies. The x100 thing is video game exclusive.
Video games are allowed.
then this
Damn, I haven't dipped into the games too much thanks for letting me know.
@artoriasabysswalker: Beerus destroyed zamasu, IF you're referring to the present.
"the galaxy has fallen under attack" sounds like something just recently happened. Not over a 30 year span lol and do you know how many planets and stars make up a galaxy? Just because we can still see planets left (That Paragus left on purpose) and the movie takes place there doesn't mean Broly couldn't have destroyed the rest in one shot or in one setting.
The flashbacks show Broly wreaking havoc as far back as his teens, and he's the same age as Goku, so yes, it would appear he's been at it since at least that far back. It lines up perfectly with everything being present tense rather than past tense as you originally claimed. The galaxy can't be presently under attack if it's already been destroyed. I'm not denying Broly potentially has the power to knock out a galaxy, but he definitely didn't do it all at once like you're suggesting, because the flashbacks contradict this notion. Either he's already destroyed the galaxy or he hasn't, it cannot be both.
However, I am willing to admit that even the movie itself can be somewhat inconsistent with its idea of what exactly is going on/happened, after reading some off-site posts on the matter again. I'll just quote that post since it's better than what I could have said:
So...it seems a little inconsistent. The narrator at the start just describes the Southern Galaxy as having "fallen under Super Saiyan attack". But later, Goku refers to Broli as having "destroyed" the Southern Galaxy, and Kaio at the start says "at this rate even my Northern Galaxy will be destroyed", implying the Southern Galaxy has been destroyed, or will be destroyed soon. Then when Paragus outlines his plan for universal domination, he says his empire would include the North, East, and West Galaxies...but conspicuously fails to mention the South Galaxy, implying it's not there to be ruled any more.
On the other hand, Paragus describes the Legendary Super Saiyan as "wreaking havoc all over an area of the Southern Galaxy", while Kaio tells Goku that the Legendary Super Saiyan has "already finished tearing up the Southern Galaxy". Most importantly, after telling Goku this, Kaio then instructs him to "go check the Southern Galaxy". At which point Goku teleports to a planet filled with ruins. So even if the Southern Galaxy has been "destroyed" in some sense, at least part of it is still there.
On that note, after Goku thinks to himself that Broli is the one who "destroyed" the Southern Galaxy, he shortly thereafter semi-repeats himself, saying that Broli is the Super Saiyan who "ran riot through" the Southern Galaxy. So it seems like all this makes the most sense if we treat "destroy" in this context as meaning that Broli attacked/laid waste/etc the Southern Galaxy. That is, he just went from planet to planet destroying the civilizations there, leaving ruined planets like the one Goku visits for a bit. The only thing that seems to indicate that he literally wiped it out completely is the opening shot of the spiral galaxy thingy dissolving into blackness, but this doesn't jibe too well with what we see/are told throughout the rest of the movie.
There's no line flat-out saying that New Planet Vegeta is in the Southern Galaxy. But Paragus at one point says that his true plan is to set up his base on "Earth, in the Northern Galaxy", implying that New Planet Vegeta is somewhere outside the Nouthern Galaxy. And after Paragus tells Vegeta that the Legendary Super Saiyan is "wrecking havoc" through that portion of the Southern Galaxy, he adds that "at his pace, even the New Planet Vegeta that we worked to establish will fall to the Legendary Super Saiyan…" Which could be taken to mean that New Planet Vegeta is also in the Southern Galaxy. Or it could just mean that Paragus is (pretending to be) concerned that once the Legendary Super Saiyan is finished with the Southern Galaxy, he'll move on to wherever New Planet Vegeta is, just as Kaio is concerned that his own Northern Galaxy is going to come under attack next. Anyway, I guess it ultimately doesn't matter too much one way or the other in regards to the big question at hand, since there's still that one ruined planet Goku visits which is definitely supposed to be in the Southern Galaxy. So we know there's actually at least a planet or two left there, whether or not New Planet Vegeta is one of them.
Also, a bit more on what the movie means by "destroy": it's said that Broli "attacked" Planet Shamo, after which its inhabitants were moved to New Planet Vegeta. But Planet Shamo is clearly still physically there, since we see Broli actually blow it up midway through the movie. This seems consistent with the idea that Broli went around attacking planets by destroying the cities/civilizations on them, rather than blowing them up Freeza-style. This is still consistent with Paragus omitting the Southern Galaxy from his list of stuff his big fancy empire will include; even if the Southern Galaxy is still around, it's now basically uninhabited (a ghost galaxy!), so there's not really anything to "rule".
Yeah no, the flashback show broly destroying some random planets which can be anywhere and they have to actually go to south galaxy.
Its hilarious how people come up with all these retarded theories to downplay when what happened is right on the screen
:)
he destroyed it in one shot, thats what happened, facts
also according to your theory broly has to be MFTL to destroy all those planets otherwise he would die of old age lol. Do you people actually think before coming up with these crackpot theories. So, here are you choice broly is MFTL or broly is a galaxy buster.
A classic case of "didn't read the post." Well, if that's your take on it, feel free. I'll consider having intelligent conversation with well-mannered posters that can actually articulate between sentences and questions, and provide concise points in an argument rather than trying to back someone against a wall with illogical choices that both completely miss the point and blatantly omit evidence from the movie. Enjoy your alphabet soup, brother.
@gaoron: @beast_mode999:Thankyou
That's honestly what I was thinking.
Zeno and Daishinkan and the Angels seem to be mainly centered on reality warping.
@beast_mode999: What about the top 5?
There is no such thing, no named blast is inherently more powerful than another they are only dependent on how much energy the character uses when firing.
Some moves have superiority in a sense that special beam cannon is specialized in piercing and destructo disc specializes in cutting but it all depends on the character.
Also broly did bust the galaxy, king Kai literally says in the next scene the south galaxy just disappeared.
That's honestly what I was thinking.
Zeno and Daishinkan and the Angels seem to be mainly centered on reality warping.
Wrong, they use OP energy blasts also which are above those of Beerus
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