What Are the Best Feats in One Piece and Fairy Tail?

Since scaling has to come from somewhere, what are the best feats from both One Piece and Fairy Tail?

Fairy Tail

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One Piece

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Fairy Tail has objectively better DC or AP showings than OP regardless of what verse you think is overall the stronger one

I would like to say OP has better speed feats but they are honestly inconsistent as hell despite popular opinion...

FT has far better hax

Im going to put in my two cents

One Pieces feats are lacking. (They have some good feats feats but i don't see anything thats multi continental like everyone says)

The consensus is that everybody post time skip scales above don chinjao who split a continent, but i have a few problems

Don Chinjao was old against Luffy and he was a continent splitter in his prime. In his prime he was also a rival of PRIME GARP. Don Chinjaos AP had to be a monster at least YC1 level or else Garp would've washed him 1st time around. Or maybe Chinjao was just extremely durable ??

Bajrang Gun is calcd at Multi Continental because it's an "island sized fist moving at lightspeed" but thats too subjective. We see no kind of damage that implies that level of power and no backscaling to support it (at least that im aware of. Please correct me if im wrong)

What should actually be calcd is the force it took for Luffy to Punch Kaido through an island and into the mantle, because thats the on panel feat.

At least dey got speed doe !!

I have no clue about Fairy Tail, but i hear they lack speed feats

@argomkii: The Chinjao scaling isn't scaling anyone to or above Prime Chinjao's feats. It's scaling above something Prime Chinjao considered incredibly easy to do, and that he stated Sai (the character people scale over) could replicate.

Additionally the crater produced along by Bajrang Gun is at least MC, ignoring the fact that it overpowered Kaido's own attack in a direct clash.

@naronu: Garp must've been weak since he had to fight Don Chinjao multiple times over years before taking him down and even trained just for him. It's kind of strange isn't it. But forget about that, since apparently Sai can do the same thing as Chanjao

How is the crator multi continental ?

@argomkii: garp did not train for chinjao. Bro did a small warm up and one shotted his ass. That’s not training.

@argomkii: Why are you limiting Prime Chinjao to his older feats without his drill? The Continent Split was something extremely casual for him in his prime.

The Craters are Multi-Continental because Mt. Fuji (and Wano) are very big. It's a lot of rock that gets pulverized by Luffy/Law.

@ecoblitz:

People who have translated a part of OP magazine vol 9 say otherwise. According to what people have said this "Garp fought him several times with no clear winner" I'll see if i can find someone to do it for the entire page. However if the One Piece magazines are non canon then forget what i said

@ecoblitz:

The manga legit tells us he trained bro

@animefreak1:

2 hours to name a single DC or AP feat FT has greater than OP. 🚶🏾‍♂️

@naronu: would that really come out to multi continental tho ?

Dorry and Brogy while injured, tired, and using old, dull, worn weapons with the mere air pressure one shot an island eating fish (Mind you CHILD Big Mom in her tantrum like one shot a Giant Chieftain and fought multiple of these Giant who all scale to or above Dorry/Brogy).

Pell survived a bomb which would've destroyed all of Alubarna, Alubarna the capital of Alabasta of which is raised above the ground like a plateau.

Ace and Blackbeard's final clash which encompassed a large part of an island (they previously destroyed the town and a nearby mountain casually).

Zoro/Wyper damaging the Giant Jack which no selled an large island falling directly on top of it.

Enel vaporizing Angel Island, going to Vaporize all of Skypeia, and who's also known to have erased Birka another island with his powers in the past.

Don Chinjao (and Sai) who could split an entire much stronger than steel continent casually.

Whitebeard's (and Blackbeard by extension) Sea Quake which would require him sending his vibrations to the sea floor and shifting tectonic plates (which is like 10 Km below sea level) to generate a tsunami of an insane magnitude... shifting the sea and islands easily.

Doffy's Bird Cage cutting up the entirety of Dressrosa easily and no selling gigantic meteors from space at highspeeds.

King Kong Gun defeating Doffy's strings which are stronger than the aforementioned Bird Cage and hitting Doffy so hard his body violently folds a part of Dressrosa and sends him to the under ground port below Dressrosa.

Fujitora lifting all of Dressrosa's rubble which should be minimum the size of Australia from what Viola said (Fuji also calls down many gigantic meteors from space as well very casually).

Punk Hazard having active volcano's for 2 years post a fight between two top tiers (Aokiji/Akainu).

Kaido's Blast Breath which can pierce an island easily while shooting someone through it and have the Aoe to encompass the size of an island if Kaido wants.

Kaido's Flaming Drum Dragon Flaming Bagua which is comparable to an island being easily able to vaporize it and threatens to vapourize Bajrang Gun which heat wise would require insane energy to do so and only doesn't due to emittion haki creating a distance between the attacks.

Bajrang Gun which is comparable to an island lathered in haki beating the aforementioned Flaming Bagua and making a large crater so deep it hits a magma chamber (mind you Wano is raised far above Sea Level).

Puncture Wille which vaporized a large crater so deep it hits a magma chamber (mind you Wano is raised far above Sea Level). Damned Punk should also scale to Puncture Wille but is less visually impressive.

Imu somehow "erasing' the country of Lulusia.

Yonko's sky split when they clash creating a severance in the heavens they do so casually as a by product of there clash.

And there's Oars who is known to pull islands and countries and "assumedly" created the land of Wano he also garnered the title of "Continent Puller" from his accomplishments.

Ehh that's it for now I mentioned a lot of the stuff but that'll be it for now even though there's more I could go into.

FT's best feats are from the god dragons

One Piece has no good feats

@argomkii: Yes, it comes out higher if you lower the particle size. It's only Multi-Continental when you assume that the average particles are the minuscule size of 10 centimeters (and also when they're 1 meter), which isn't really something anyone considers pulverization, since they'd be very visible. 1 centimeter is Moon Level.

@pics: post it let me see then.

@argomkii: implying garp/chinjao where on the same level is implying he’s on the same level as Roger which we know is infinitely far from the truth.

@ecoblitz: no it doesn't. Don Chinjao was a brick. He had a head powerful enough to contend with Garps pure punching way of fighting. Just a clash of styles. Someone like Aokiji would play with prime Don Chinjao and Whitebeard cracks his head along with the air

@naronu: moon level bajrang gun

Bruh

@argomkii: yes it does. They’re both physical fighters who use just Haki and not DF, just like Roger and Garp.

@ecoblitz: Rogers has superior haki feats to garp tho and more weapons. Garp could very well have been more physical. All we know is that they almost killed eachother

Don Chinjao has his head and thats it. He is just a brick. A strong durable guy with one weapon and when Garp took that away there was nothing else

Im just trying to make an explanation. As much as you don't want to believe it, it's stated Garp and Chinjao fought multiple times and Garp trained just for him, right there. Maybe there's another explanation or something

OP: WB's quakes, Shiki's feats from Strong World, Aokiji's Ice Age, Fujitora's meteors, Akainu and Aokiji permanently warping the climate of Punk Hazard, Kaido's Onigashima toss, Law's Shock Wille, Bajrang Gun, Chinjao.s ice continent split are basically the best feats.

FT: Etherion, Irene's U1, August's Ars Magia, Aldoron's stomp, Natsu's attack that killed Aldoron Selene expanding the moon are the ones that come to mind.

OP wins in terms of AP/DC primarily due to two reasons:

1. All the OP baseline feats except like 1 and 2 are extremely casual plus accomplished indirectly or as a side effect unlike a lot of FT's flashiest showings which are the ultimate technique of the character, such as U1 or Ars Magia or Natsu's Purgatory Fist.
2. They can be actually quantified and scaled directly to AP unlike a lot of the FT ones that are pure magical hax.

Speed is duh, FT verse are snails.

@argomkii: Bajrang Gun is calcd at Multi Continental because it's an "island sized fist moving at lightspeed" but thats too subjective. We see no kind of damage that implies that level of power and no backscaling to support it (at least that im aware of. Please correct me if im wrong

Bruh no one has calced bajranggun to move at light speed or anything close to that

Vsbw and most Mc bajranggun calcs use speed at way less than 1% the speed of light (which is a ridiculous lowball for the speed tier luffy is at even at pre time skip base form)

And even with that bajranggun still gives at least multi continental tier results

Shirso did a calc for bajranggun moving at just 10% ls (which is still a ridiculous lowball) and then lowballed every other aspect of the calc like the fist not being island sized but just mountain sized and the mass being air rather than flesh and bones but still got bajranggun at Multi continental.

naronu did his on bajranggun own on panel speed feat of moving the island sized fist at a distance compared to its size in a single panel and gave moon lvl results

Now with all these what's even absurd is KE calcs for bajranggun is only one aspect of the feat as no calc has taken into account the sevral layers of adv haki amp which are all ridiculous ...adv coC for instance is way over 10x multiplier compared to his gears

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Mc-moon lvl BG are low end results for the feat

And they're alot of things to support this such as bajranggun being stated in the databook to have its shockwave/vibrations alone reaching a thousand miles (continental distance)

Old wb and old shikis feat which are in the continental to mc range

Laws shock willie and bajranggun own side effects of punching kaido that deep calced at continental

Shanks showing casual continental aoe haki ..potent enough to physical parlyse an admiral

And others

@yray: thats BS there was no multi continental damage done or any force that was visibly multi continental unless there are some calcs i don't know about

A REAL multi continental feat is Psykorochis beam

We see a chunk of the earth lifted off by the energy of her attack and we can calc the force. Thats a real feat

Luffys fist being island sized and hitting the ground doesn't automatically mean multi continental AP when we see no multi continental Destruction. Thats goofy ass fanwank. At best he just upscales from other feats

And earthquakes being felt a continental distance is nothing. At best that makes it continental. Hell country level asteroid impacts can cause earthquakes around the entire planet

Low Moon level Luffy lol i was just trolling but mfs actually think this

The wank is getting insane. One Piece is reaching Clorox levels of overrated

Because it didn't hit the ground directly lol, it first overpowered Kaido's attack and then the impact of Kaido hitting the ground caused all its visual damage and effects which was still rather insane. Does AP not exist anymore?

@shirso: oh yeah my mistake. Kaido got punched into the mantle. Thats the feat that should be calcd. The force it takes to punch someone through the crust and into the mantle.

If it comes out to be multi continental I'd be totally fine

Calcing the force of what a hypothetical "island sized fist" would do is just no.....

But that's going to be a massive lowball since Kaido absorbed most of the power behind the attack and a lot of it went into overpowering Kaido's own Flame Bagua so the actual visual effects if Bajrang Gun directly hit the ground would be much more impressive.

@shirso: He punched Kaido and the force of Luffys punch is what drilled him into the mantle. That can be calculated. It is probably a lot more force than you think it is, especially if we think about the speed and how high in the air Kaido was

Even if it seems like a lowball and most of the power of his was used up during the clash, it just does not seem right to me that Luffys power is based on what a hypothetical island sized fist would do if it hit the planet.

Thats just me man

@shirso: The calc is just iffy. So because a hypothetical island sized fist hitting the planet is calcd at Multi continental, that must also mean Luffys Bajrang is multi continental.

Yes... it's as if something is missing. Whats missing... is the FEAT. KE calcs like this are imo not reliable. Sure scientifically the KE should be multi continental but the actual feat just isn't there. All that happens is Kaido gets punched into the mantle and it causes widespread earthquakes, and some more stuff. If we want to get super realistic Kaido getting smacked that hard by such KE would cause way more destruction

@argomkii: nice to see someone with some sense.

In terms of pure feats, there is nothing to suggest that OP is above multi-island/small country. VS battles bankers are cute with their inflated, unreliable calcs, and should remind themselves that we can only go off what we see on-panel.

Meanwhile, in FT we have actually seen high tier characters (but not god tier) affect areas on a large country scale (Irene, August) yet both techniques required prep or were not instant, and did not show the sort of power needed to say, one-shot a country.

Speed wise, FT is hugely lacking and is a snail verse for the most part. With some feats and the likes of Kizaru running around, it is fair to say OP high tiers/god tiers are around LS/FTL, though this can also feel inconsistent.

^^^

@argomkii: they are all bricks. Using a weapon with 0 special properties don’t stop you from being a brick lmao. I don’t remember the manga saying that all it said was garp busted 12 mountains to warmup for him then one shotted him.

Prime garp is not struggling with someone he literally one shotted. They probably fought pre god valley incident because no shot in hell he’s on par with prime garp who was going at it with the number 1 in the verse at that time.

Fairy tail has better DC but one piece is explicitly stated to have AP exceeding DC as high tier fighters can concentrate their attacks to minimize collateral kinda like how post namek dragon fights don't constantly planet bust

Yes, AP is an acknowledged concept in OP verse:

@ecoblitz:

As someone already posted, Garp had to train to fight Chinjao. This is also said in the manga, where Garp states he'd finally stop Chino's drill head, shattering mountains to do so.

Aldoron's stomp and Natsu's dragon fire ultimate technique shit on any OP feats. Scream "muh AP" as much as you want. Those "muh DC" feats in FT also translate to AP you know. And considering FT has better DC feats than OP, they logically have better AP.

@greythejiren: Lol you've obviously never read FT. DC doesn't translate to AP in FT, like at all.

@cosmicemperor:

Except it does. You can easily say the same for OP, don't be a hypocrite.

@pics: so he warmed up by busting 8 mountains… that’s what I said…

@shirso: No the Psykorochi beam is completely different. We see the damage it does and the damage it calcd to be caused by multi continental levels of force. She literally lifted a massive chunk of the Earth off the ground with her beam. Thats a real feat

AP is how much energy you release in an attack, DC is to put it simply if a character destroys a continent or planet in one go etc, that makes him or her continental or planet lvl in DC… why do you think DBS characters like Goku and Vegeta’s AP is massively higher than there DC?

To put it simply based on what I’ve seen on both FT and OP, FT has better DC feats and the god tiers have continental+ AP, but if the MC calcs for OP are accurate than the god tiers like Luffy, Shanks, and anyone higher than them are MC making OP having better AP.

But honestly, this is going to be a flame war with OP and FT stans going to be grabbing each other’s throats with every argument they got….

OP by a mile, the best feat in FT is Aldos stomp which is like small country level.

@ecoblitz:

He trained his fist…

@argomkii: Lol at Chinjao being a rival of prime Garp. Chinjao got one-shotted, there's no rivalry in that.

@zoken: It was stated they fought several times according to One Piece magazine volume 9 and Garp trained just for him

I assume thats canon unless you don't believe information in the volumes are canon

I usually like to refer to Luffy when scaling things in One-Piece

-Bound-Man for AP/dura, Snake-Man for speed and future sight, Bajrang Gun as top top tier AP feat etc.

There's also King and Zoro if we talking high level yonko commanders (i pref King over Kat as there's more visual indications to go off of with feats, since kat fought in a very barebones mirror world. King blasting throught the mountains in the side of Onigashima is a better indicator of what he can do than whatever kat is destroying in the mirror world). Also zoro since he fought king and we can scale him off his previous weaker versions in the story.

Kaido/Luffy/Admirals for top tiers too.

For fairy tail i mostly refer to the War Arc and go off the FT members and Spriggan 12. Then compare the dragon gods to igneel/acno and the dragon slayers to spriggan/FT. I'm not as familiar with the verse (been like 8 years since i read Fairy Tail and i never got into 100YQ), so it's more general stuff i guess.

now that answered the first question "what feats do you scale off of" (which ppl didn't really answer in the thread)

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for the "best feats" question, it's Bajrang Gun, Flaming Bagua and Puncture Willie imo. You can get into some Marineford or Oden flashback feats but idk if anything trumps those 3 (you can argue the WB huge attack at MF but that's a large area attack not really AP oriented)

for FT i'd argue things like Acno 1-shotting God Serena, Killing Igneel etc.

It's been years since i read it and never got into 100YQ tbh

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