As it never happened, it cannot be used as an argument.
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You don't have to show me this I've seen this on kmc when it first surfaced, I'm glad you guys are still at the stage of twitter replies supersedes on panel evidence, it's cute
KMC member Mr Master stalking the writer to get the answer he wants was sad, The writer was telling him all comics are made up, when weirdos stalk them and press them on hypernerd shit, this is their response, basically telling you guys to go outside
Evan Dorkins doesn't have a say in this anymore, no matter what his intention was, later writer has made it canon.
There are plethora of evidences of all Mxy appearances being canon, My computer is too slow to post it all
There was two posts to read to follow the discussion. That's so hard... ;)
what is hard for you is your inability to read the title of my thread.
"wf mxy vs one above all"
and the fact that you are totally unaware that convergence basically made elseworlds canon. and dan didio confirmed that elseworlds are not really elseworlds anymore and are basically canon.
@norsewinter: Still non canon, no matter what you said. Nice try thought.
nope. using your wog logic against you. dan didio already overrode evan dorkin's statement and made all of elseworlds canon. and since world's funniest is an elseworlds story. well.
DD: It’s so funny. We were looking at what the interpretation of ‘Elseworlds’ means right now. The funny part is, by putting all those stories in continuity, they’re no longer ‘Elseworlds,’ they’re part of the consistent universe, they’re just existing on a different plane. They’re not really ‘Elseworlds’ anymore.
Mxy is outside the 'conventional' Multiverse that Perpetua created. there are infinite multiverses out there in the grand DC omniverse
Mxy has been travelling throughout the Omniverse, he's went to the animated Universe, tv shows etc, so he's presumably moved to the other clusters of Multiverses, too.
i already specified wf mxy. i dont understand why there are still marvel guys trying to bring up irrelevant tweets that are already contradicted by dc's co-publisher anyway.
i already specified wf mxy. i dont understand why there are still marvel guys trying to bring up irrelevant tweets that are already contradicted by dc's co-publisher anyway.
even more so
there are on panel ACTUAL evidences, from ACTUAL comics, which canonizes each and every appearance Mxy has EVER made... Across ALL forms of media
They are still as canon to the mainstream as the Marvel "What if ?" are "canon" to the Earth-616.
That's exactly what your scans are explaining.
The "infinite variations" of the characters through different universes are exactly the same thing as other timelines used by Marvel in their own multiverse, not canon to the mainstream and irrelevant to the main characters.
They are still as canon to the mainstream as the Marvel "What if ?" are "canon" to the Earth-616.
That's exactly what your scans are explaining.
The "infinite variations" of the characters through different universes are exactly the same thing as other timelines used by Marvel in their own multiverse, not canon to the mainstream and irrelevant to the main characters.
dumbass
5th dimension and 6th dimension transcend beyond the multiverse altogether, there is only one 5th dimension in the entire dc omniverse, that means there is only one mxy in the entire dc omniverse. Do you know what canon means? If there is only one Mxy, everything he does in comics are canon, PERIOD
also are you illiterate? read the damn scans, this is the third time I'm postin it, you obviously don't know how to read, go sit in the corner
maybe brorw is incapable of reading comics, to explain such cut and dry simple scan to him, is legit making me mad, he's either legit stupid or trolling
So let me actually type it up what's in the scan for you to see, brorw
"I was part of it from the beginning, the comics, the toys, I was on the cartoon show, this thing between me and your pop, it spans realities. what's life and death in this world are pages in a coloring book one dimension over. I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THE BIG PICTURE. THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN POP FROM WORLD TO WORLD. "
They are still as canon to the mainstream as the Marvel "What if ?" are "canon" to the Earth-616.
That's exactly what your scans are explaining.
The "infinite variations" of the characters through different universes are exactly the same thing as other timelines used by Marvel in their own multiverse, not canon to the mainstream and irrelevant to the main characters.
what? i dont think you understand how dc's multiverse works. the 5th dimension in dc (where mxy comes from) is above the timeline universes and is not bound by some form of quantum divergence just like how the sphere of the gods is not bound by quantum divergence and all darkseids are just avatars of the darkseid in the sphere of the gods.
are you telling me there is a 5th dimension in earth 1 and then earth 2 when those are 4 dimensional space time continuums? what? do you know how much of an astronomical plot hole it is that you are theorizing?
mxy's appearances changes depending on the universe that he is inside of but there isnt a mxy bound by that universe. because he is essentially a multiversal singularity as 5-dimensional beings are not bound by timeline divergence. but they are all still the same mxy.
TOAA. No matter the version has never lost a fight. Mxy recently got owned by the still force. Lol so called erasing all existence never happened, it was hinted he could be never shown and nulled by still force affecting him
Wf though is more tricky. TOAA is the writer. Mxy has been shown beating writers but that was also written by the writers lol, the writers made him think so,the writer made him get his ass handed to him lots of time,the Writer made him a jobber.
The one above all is the writer.
The one above others= is a comic writer and could lose to wf mxy but not one above all.
Also this is what Evan Dorkins twitter response really mean, it's the same comment from the beginning page of some comics, comics in general are made up imaginary tales, a comment on the comics medium being "gag" and "fairy tales" "make believes"
And I'm surprised people still use writers tweets and interview as evidence, If so then
1. Galactus is the most powerful being in Marvel
2. The Flash cannot go faster than light
Both statements confirmed by twitter lmao
Hell Alan Moore has gone on record saying John Constantine is real, I guess....John Constantine is real then....
"TOAA. No matter the version has never lost a fight."
worst argument i ever heard. give better reasons because by your logic, a stick figure character i draw that never lost a fight are omnipotent because they "never lost a fight" any character that never lost a fight is "omnipotent"
i also stated in my battle wf mxy. not any current mxy. and we are using starlin toaa. stop bringing up versions of toaa and mxy that i explicitly do not want in my thread. read my rules again
TOAA. No matter the version has never lost a fight. Mxy recently got owned by the still force. Lol so called erasing all existence never happened, it was hinted he could be never shown and nulled by still force affecting him
Wf though is more tricky. TOAA is the writer. Mxy has been shown beating writers but that was also written by the writers lol, the writers made him think so,the writer made him get his ass handed to him lots of time,the Writer made him a jobber.
The one above all is the writer.
The one above others= is a comic writer and could lose to wf mxy but not one above all.
the rest of your post notwithstanding
At no point did still force "owned" mxy
First thing first Mxy was weakened from the breaking of source wall that depowered the 5th dimension
Secondly The Still Force only held back weakened Mxy for couple seconds, the same Still Force under snyder could stop the entire fukin universe, so no not really a low showing
also Mxy has whooped writers ass at least twice on panel, he also destroyed the real world (our world) on panel, so the writer argument really holds no weight here
Mxy recently got owned by the still force. Lol so called erasing all existence never happened, it was hinted he could be never shown and nulled by still force affecting him
Wdym he was owned by the still force? the still force merely delayed his attacks.
So please do enlighten me on how he got owned by the still force, if by "owned", you mean, able to delay his actions then I would suggest you look up what the term actually means.
Even if he did get owned by it (he didn't), it would be a feat for the still force and not an anti-feat for Mxy. Lol that should be a no brainer.
As for the rest of your post, it's quite clear that you haven't read Infinity Conflict. I'd suggest reading Infinity Conflict before posting on a thread that uses characters from said comic.
I don't see the point in specify the versions anyway since its the same freaking version. other than the on panel scans I posted, current writer confirmed as well. there's only one mxy across all incarnations and media. it doesn't get clearer than this
current weakened mind controlled mxy is still capable of breaking the writer/artist pencil and unimagine the entire creation
They are still as canon to the mainstream as the Marvel "What if ?" are "canon" to the Earth-616.
That's exactly what your scans are explaining.
The "infinite variations" of the characters through different universes are exactly the same thing as other timelines used by Marvel in their own multiverse, not canon to the mainstream and irrelevant to the main characters.
what? i dont think you understand how dc's multiverse works. the 5th dimension in dc (where mxy comes from) is above the timeline universes and is not bound by some form of quantum divergence just like how the sphere of the gods is not bound by quantum divergence and all darkseids are just avatars of the darkseid in the sphere of the gods.
are you telling me there is a 5th dimension in earth 1 and then earth 2 when those are 4 dimensional space time continuums? what? do you know how much of an astronomical plot hole it is that you are theorizing?
mxy's appearances changes depending on the universe that he is inside of but there isnt a mxy bound by that universe. because he is essentially a multiversal singularity as 5-dimensional beings are not bound by timeline divergence. but they are all still the same mxy.
What I am telling is that Mxy is like every other DC characters, he has still different incarnations in other universes. He quoted Superman too in the scans that have been posted.
So what you are saying is that Mxy is a singular being so all feats from all Mxy applies to him ?
They are still as canon to the mainstream as the Marvel "What if ?" are "canon" to the Earth-616.
That's exactly what your scans are explaining.
The "infinite variations" of the characters through different universes are exactly the same thing as other timelines used by Marvel in their own multiverse, not canon to the mainstream and irrelevant to the main characters.
dumbass
5th dimension and 6th dimension transcend beyond the multiverse altogether, there is only one 5th dimension in the entire dc omniverse, that means there is only one mxy in the entire dc omniverse. Do you know what canon means? If there is only one Mxy, everything he does in comics are canon, PERIOD
also are you illiterate? read the damn scans, this is the third time I'm postin it, you obviously don't know how to read, go sit in the corner
maybe brorw is incapable of reading comics, to explain such cut and dry simple scan to him, is legit making me mad, he's either legit stupid or trolling
So let me actually type it up what's in the scan for you to see, brorw
"I was part of it from the beginning, the comics, the toys, I was on the cartoon show, this thing between me and your pop, it spans realities. what's life and death in this world are pages in a coloring book one dimension over. I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THE BIG PICTURE. THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN POP FROM WORLD TO WORLD. "
Your insults are a nice way to continue a debate... I've had no other ways than flagging the content of your post...
He is talking about Superman and him and that applies to other DC characters too. They don't have the same awareness so what ?
For now, Mxy never defeated on panel a character as powerful as TOAA so there is no reason to assume that he can.
Plenty of Marvel characters can annihilate the Multiverse, Mxy is nothing special...
What I am telling is that Mxy is like every other DC characters, he has still different incarnations in other universes. He quoted Superman too in the scans that have been posted.
So what you are saying is that Mxy is a singular being so all feats from all Mxy applies to him ?
what are you talking about? no. you are wrong because mxy's own race debunks that. he comes from the 5th dimension not universes.
mxy doesnt have incarnations in different universes because he is a 5-dimensional imp. do you know what that means? he transcends 4-dimensional space time continuums.
mxy having different "variations" in different universes is the same mxy appearing in different appearances as he pops world to world. because 5-dimensional imps move freely throughout the space-time of the multiverse and are not bound by its divergence. they are more bound by the 5th dimension which is outside the timelines.
being 5-dimensional (which is what mxy is) means you are not bound by 4-dimensional space time divergence so how can mxy be assigned to a space-time continuum for each universe if he is a 5-dimensional imp? and if those universes are 4-dimensional space time totalities only?
are you saying there is a 5th dimension in every 4-dimensional timeline in dc? this is such poor level debating that you have no idea how dc's dimensionality works. and its embarassing you continue to act like you know what you are talking about when you really dont.
So what you are saying is that Mxy is a singular being so all feats from all Mxy applies to him ?
uh. yeah? there is only one 5th dimension in dc's cosmology and it is not a sub-divisable multiverse at all, in fact, its supposedly "beyond time" as per current retcon. and thats where all imps come from. worlds funniest feats of mxy are still mxy's feats. whether you regard them as outliers to the character is another topic.
i simply intervene because you are spreading such wrong information on many levels about dc's dimensionality that you need to be corrected.
What I am telling is that Mxy is like every other DC characters, he has still different incarnations in other universes. He quoted Superman too in the scans that have been posted.
So what you are saying is that Mxy is a singular being so all feats from all Mxy applies to him ?
what are you talking about? no. you are wrong because mxy's own race debunks that. he comes from the 5th dimension not universes.
mxy doesnt have incarnations in different universes because he is a 5-dimensional imp. do you know what that means? he transcends 4-dimensional space time continuums.
mxy having different "variations" in different universes is the same mxy appearing in different appearances as he pops world to world. because 5-dimensional imps move freely throughout the space-time of the multiverse and are not bound by its divergence. they are more bound by the 5th dimension which is outside the timelines.
being 5-dimensional (which is what mxy is) means you are not bound by 4-dimensional space time divergence so how can mxy be assigned to a space-time continuum for each universe if he is a 5-dimensional imp? and if those universes are 4-dimensional space time totalities only?
are you saying there is a 5th dimension in every 4-dimensional timeline in dc? this is such poor level debating that you have no idea how dc's dimensionality works. and its embarassing you continue to act like you know what you are talking about when you really dont.
So what you are saying is that Mxy is a singular being so all feats from all Mxy applies to him ?
uh. yeah? there is only one 5th dimension in dc's cosmology and it is not a sub-divisable multiverse at all, in fact, its supposedly "beyond time" as per current retcon. and thats where all imps come from. worlds funniest feats of mxy are still mxy's feats. whether you regard them as outliers to the character is another topic.
i simply intervene because you are spreading such wrong information on many levels about dc's dimensionality that you need to be corrected.
So what you are saying is that everything that happened to every Mxy in every stories is canon to him ? I just want to be sure.
mxy's appearances changes depending on the universe that he is inside of but there isnt a mxy bound by that universe. because he is essentially a multiversal singularity as 5-dimensional beings are not bound by timeline divergence. but they are all still the same mxy.
In principle you can make this argument, but it becomes very very difficult to reconcile this from a character and storyline perspective.
mxy's appearances changes depending on the universe that he is inside of but there isnt a mxy bound by that universe. because he is essentially a multiversal singularity as 5-dimensional beings are not bound by timeline divergence. but they are all still the same mxy.
In principle you can make this argument, but it becomes very very difficult to reconcile this from a character and storyline perspective.
You are right. I don't see how Mxy will threatens TOAA when he lost to Gog and Superman-Prime, apparently a Superman with a Guardian amp is too much for him...
TOAA wins...
A little staff whose power is dwarfed by the TOAAMxy crapped his pants when he recovered his powers at the end of the comics....
In principle you can make this argument, but it becomes very very difficult to reconcile this from a character and storyline perspective.
thats because multiversal characters and the idea of a multiverse is a highly theoretical unprovable concept in real life. they are difficult to reconcile not just from a character and storyline perspective but also logical perspectives.
we are talking about characters that the conceptual fabrics of reality and somehow we are supposed to pretend this makes sense at all.
@norsewinter: TOAA is supposed to be the creator of everything in Marvel. He should scale to other stuffs in the past since lore-wise, they're still his creation. That's what I think.
@norsewinter: TOAA is supposed to be the creator of everything in Marvel. He should scale to other stuffs in the past since lore-wise, they're still his creation. That's what I think.
+1
That's the only answer this thread needs.
TOAA will not lose to GOG or be trashed by Superman-Prime...
@brorw:because i value feats. omnipotence is often a fallacy, especially in marvel. many things in marvel are called omnipotent and that means nothing.
@lan_fan: so you want to scale a version of toaa who could not fix 1 universe due to imbalace (due to an issue) to molecule man who repaired the entire marvel multiverse at one point? how does that work?
i dunno. you are free to your opinion. im just waiting for good arguments from the marvel side.
i can come up with good arguments to make the case that starlin retconned toaa chances winning against wf mxy and explaining away what happened in infinity conflict just as i see many points for wf mxy winning just as much. but these are based on my personal theories.
so far all brorw is doing is endless borderline trolling. thats the only reason i am intervening.
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