Weakest Naruto character that stomps Ichigo Trio?

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HELL-VERSE VASTO LORDE ICHIGO

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kaguya that fought hagoromo and hamura.

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@ob1toe said:

kaguya that fought hagoromo and hamura.

What's she got to put all three of them down before they get her? An instant cast massive TSO?

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Indra and Asura

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Issike, Baryon Naruto, Adult SPSM Naruto, Momoshike, Prime Hogoromo, Prime Kaguya, Juubidara

So none of weak

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@haxxxz said:

Issike, Baryon Naruto, Adult SPSM Naruto, Momoshike, Prime Hogoromo, Prime Kaguya, Juubidara

So none of weak

What are these character's speeds? It's a real tough sell to me that any character in Naruto can stomp all 3 of these forms of Ichigo at once. And that's ignoring that Ichigo's mere existence is being downplayed to fuck. Speed is Ichigo's main deal, meanwhile, we have Yammato's mere existence being casually surface level based on the fact that even while holding himself back it was going to destroy Soul Society over time.

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Not to mention Hell-Verse Ichigo has a universal AP feat. Didn't he destroy something that held back the entirety of Hell and Hell is comparable in size to the universe?

I might be wrong here. I don't recall how it was worded what he did.

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#14  Edited By Ob1Toe

@ssjbatdan: hell isnt a universe. why would bleach need a universe to hold a minority of the dead? out of all the named chracters in hell only extreme crimnals have ended up there. Not enough proof in the series for it to be a universe. only 2 espada went to hell not even notiora went there. its meant to hold the worst of the worst not a universe amount of people

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@ob1toe said:

@ssjbatdan: hell isnt a universe. why would bleach need a universe to hold a minority of the dead? out of all the named chracters in hell only extreme crimnals have ended up there. Not enough proof in the series for it to be a universe. only 2 espada went to hell not even notiora went there. its meant to hold the worst of the worst not a universe amount of people

Wouldn't it still have to be a universe in size due to the fact that it would potentially have to house an infinite amount of souls?

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No Naruto character could win this.

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@ssjbatdan: it wouldnt need a universe to house the worst of the worst. majority of the named chracters in hell are basically serial killers. serial killers are a tiny fraction of crime. you wouldnt need a universe to house a bunch of dead serial killers. Hell in bleach is smaller then biblical hell as the crimes needed to get into it are more extreme then the crimes of the biblical hell

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Base lightspeed dodging.

Bankai alone is a 10x.

No way anyone is blitz(ing) three of these guys at once.

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@ob1toe said:

@ssjbatdan: it wouldnt need a universe to house the worst of the worst. majority of the named chracters in hell are basically serial killers. serial killers are a tiny fraction of crime. you wouldnt need a universe to house a bunch of dead serial killers. Hell in bleach is smaller then biblical hell as the crimes needed to get into it are more extreme then the crimes of the biblical hell

My point is that if it isn't universal in size, and if time is infinite, at some point it would no longer be big enough to house the dead. Logically, it has to be universal in size.

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@ssjbatdan: yes at some point in time it would be but its impossible to tell if or when it reaches that point

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@ob1toe said:

@ssjbatdan: yes at some point in time it would be but its impossible to tell if or when it reaches that point

Are you implying that when only one person was there it was only the size of one person?

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@alisupo1 said:

@ssjbatdan: 10x faster than LS you mean?

Absolutely for Ichigo, since his Bankai's only real ability is speed and ampying his getsuga tenshou. If anyone wants to argue that Ichigo's base can't tag Mr. 69, then, well....

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#24  Edited By Ob1Toe

@ssjbatdan: biblical hell was created to punish the devil and logically grew in size when more people died who fit into that punishment. hell wouldn't start as a universal size nor would it grow to one in a couple 100 years if it was only made to punish one continents damned

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BSM and higher.

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#26  Edited By Death8Dragon

Great universal HV Ichigo again that has already been debunked

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@ob1toe said:

@ssjbatdan: biblical hell was created to punish the devil and logically grew in size when more people died who fit into that punishment. hell wouldn't start as a universal size nor would it grow to one in a couple 100 years if it was only made to punish one continents damned

It grows in physical size, but to be able to do that it would have to be universal, just as our universe is constantly growing. Are you implying that our universe isn't universal because it can grow?

The fact that it could ever be universal means it contains a universe in energy.

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@ssjbatdan: our universe wasnt made to house a minority of the dead of one continent. bad comparison

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@ob1toe said:

@ssjbatdan: our universe wasnt made to house a minority of the dead of one continent. bad comparison

For it to be able to grow infinitely in size, it has to have infinite energy already.

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No one from Naruto is beating Hellverse Ichigo

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any god tier

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A similar topic. AFAIK Hellverse Ichi is pretty strong. Don't know about speed but if I talk according to power some top or god tier I guess.

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War arc SPSM Naruto

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Sad enough BSM shitstomps this team, BM could debatably win if we take Bee's statement of destroying the moon in the last serious.

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Sad enough BSM shitstomps this team, BM could debatably win if we take Bee's statement of destroying the moon in the last serious.

I know you're busy arresting Team Rocket, but, explain?

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Kaguya ig?

Or maybe rinnesharingan madara, or prime hagoromo and BYM naruto.

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#39  Edited By RDCDesmond

Kaguya kills them or BFRs

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Kaguya kills them or BFRs

With what wank?

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Kaguya is fighting lightspeed/ftl characters. Any of these blitzes her. They are all lowball 10x ftl.

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#42  Edited By RDCDesmond

@ssjbatdan: Not everyone. Dangai isn’t faster than a fully amped Kaguya. Merged Hollow can be pushed to be caught off guard like he was with ywach reiatsu floor traps. But Kaguya version with kaguya dragging him through a portal from behind him like she did with Rinnegan Sasuke leaving him on sand planet. Or she could just toss him on the acid planet.

Or she can pummel them with chakra fists and break Ichigo sword.

Or just shoot a smaller Tsb at them That doesn’t take much time to charge.

Also Kaguya has to be more than x10 LS. Hokage naruto has high relat+ speed reactions. Just SM alone is a x10 stack. SM Hokage Naruto isn’t x10 faster than Kaguya.

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@ssjbatdan: Not everyone. Dangai isn’t faster than a fully amped Kaguya. Merged Hollow can be pushed to be caught off guard like he was with ywach reiatsu floor traps. But Kaguya version with kaguya dragging him through a portal from behind him like she did with Rinnegan Sasuke leaving him on sand planet.

Or she can pummel them with chakra fists.

Amped Kaguya is 10x lightspeed? Or close to it? What she at? Also, what do you mean by amped Kaguya? After she absorbed the world's chakra? She was still fighting barely FTL characters.

Anyhow, she's got to fight all 3 of them at once. In what universe?

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#44  Edited By RDCDesmond

@ssjbatdan: Yes. Hokage Sm isn’t x10 faster than her, even tho his SPSM is Faster.

The Naruto high god tiers in 4th war had over 5-10 x LS reactions. Otherwise just sage mode Hokage alone would be incredibly faster than everyone in end of 4th war.

Merged Hollow is at least 10-20 times Dangai Ichigo which is still fodder to Kaguya.

Dangai is large country and is fodder to Kaguya.

Vasto Lorde is the big threat for her but she should be able to destroy him with a Tsb that doesn’t take much time to charge

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@ssjbatdan: Yes. Hokage Sm isn’t x10 faster than her, even tho his SPSM is Faster.

The Naruto high god tiers in 4th war had over 5-10 x LS reactions. Otherwise just sage mode Hokage alone would be incredibly faster than everyone in end of 4th war.

Merged Hollow is at least 10-20 times Dangai Ichigo which is still fodder to Kaguya.

Dangai is large country and is fodder to Kaguya.

Vasto Lorde is the big threat for her but she should be able to destroy him with a Tsb that doesn’t take much time to charge

Then why is Naruto dodging Light Fang, just a beam of light, impressive? This makes no sense. He even reacts as if it is a big deal! Naruto is only FTL in War Arc.

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@ssjbatdan: 8 Gates Gai was FTL. Juubi Madara pre tree scales to this. Post Tree Juubi madara scales above this. Kaguya scales above that.
If kaguya was bare minimum FTL then Sm Naruto would be a lot faster than her Consdiering base hokage is high relat

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@ssjbatdan: 8 Gates Gai was FTL. Juubi Madara pre tree scales to this. Post Tree Juubi madara scales above this. Kaguya scales above that.

If kaguya was bare minimum FTL then Sm Naruto would be a lot faster than her Consdiering base hokage is high relat

Okay, so what, you want to wank her from FTL up to 10x FTL because she fought people who may have been faster than FTL?

Quite the leap there.

FTL Sakura confirmed?

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@ssjbatdan: Let’s not troll here Sakura is fodder that’s like saying ORIHIME is faster than true Shikai Ichigo and merged hollow

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@ssjbatdan: Let’s not troll here Sakura is fodder that’s like saying ORIHIME is faster than true Shikai Ichigo and merged hollow

If Kaguya is 10x FTL how the fuck is Sakura doing anything if she isn't at least FTL?

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Point is, you need to wank Kaguya to 10x FTL just to fight one of these guys. How is she taking all 3?

This is...illogical.