Weakest Character That Could "Teambust" The Gold Saints?

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#1  Edited By blue_marvel99

could a universal+ character like Franklin Richards solo? or do you need to be multiversal to teambust the gold saints?

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The White Queen should solo them

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The White Queen should solo them

what series is she from?

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Any character who is a few levels above baseline/casual quantum type III multiversal should do the trick.

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Composite Genis-Vell

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Goku

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High balled, the Golden Saints would lose to no less than a multiversal threat (Zeno/Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagan), Midballed someone multi universal with hax (Sailor Moon), Lowballed any universal+/Multi-Universal threat even without hax (Goku)

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High balled, the Golden Saints would lose to no less than a multiversal threat (Zeno/Tenga Toppa Gurren Lagan), Midballed someone multi universal with hax (Sailor Moon), Lowballed any universal+/Multi-Universal threat even without hax (Goku)

how would Franklin Richards fare?

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@ecoblitz: They wouldn’t take him seriously in character though and by the time they know what’s up...................?

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@blue_marvel99: Grown up Franklin Richards may solo, but young Franklin Richards doesn’t have enough power to do that at all.

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@ecoblitz: and then what happens to him? lol

He sat in the epicenter of busting future trunks timeline which included 12 universes

He didn’t use what he did in the tournament of power and just make them vanish

He sat chilling in the epicenter as the blast expanded.

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@killmonger101: Goku would get destroyed by the Saints, Shaka alone could open his eyes and Goku is done. If the Saints decide to use Athena's Exclamation Goku is done, he can't survive multiple blasts that are said to rival the big bang in power, plus Goku would die without oxygen.

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@killmonger101: Yes i did. But even if you lowball the Saints, they still stomp. Goku has no answer for paralysis, Soul BFR and lack of oxygen.

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#20  Edited By Avatar_of_Gaea

Comp Goku or Darsh

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@jirou: Nope. Genis-Vell beat Eternity, who is above the 12 Gold Saints.

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If it's just the Gold Cloth that they have, then the weakest multiversals can beat them or someone who's universal with infinite speed and high-level hax (like Golden Experience Requiem).

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#23  Edited By Zetsu-San

Hmm... Dormammu, Laharl, or Legion maybe?

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@death2heretics: You don't read comics do you? Eternity wanted to die hence why genis did anything to him. Genis is way too hyped here. Saints run him over.

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anyone above baseline multi hyperwank force go beyond USSR weebo 9000 should do it easily

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@skrskr: you think Zeno tanked his erasure? Lol. K.

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@jirou: Yes i do. In fact, i've done a couple of RT for some Comicbook characters, you don't know anything about me, nice try though.

"Wanting to die" doesn't take away the fact that Eternity is still durable and it requires Multiversal DC to kill him. Not to mention he also one-shot Entropy.

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@killmonger101: Eh, i don't know how powerful non-canon Goku is, so it might be true.

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@death2heretics:

Not to mention he also one-shot Entropy. Not to mention he also one-shot Entropy.

Do you have a stutter?

"Wanting to die" doesn't take away the fact that Eternity is still durable and it requires Multiversal DC to kill him.

False him wanting to die means he can allow himself to be destroyed by much less damage than multiversal. He literally helped Genis kill himself. SMH and you read comics...

i've done a couple of RT for some Comicbook characters

Stealing feats from reddit RT's doesn't mean they're yours.

Genis dies horribly

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@killmonger101: I don't see how Goku is beating them regardless of how much you lowball. Some individuals Gold Knights have shown DC on the level of a high balled Goku. Zeno you could argue if he's given time to attack, though.

OT: Someone like Anti-Spiral or STTGL could do the trick.

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@jirou:

False him wanting to die means he can allow himself to be destroyed by much less damage than multiversal.

This was never stated, nor shown in any of Eternity's appearances as far as i know.

Stealing feats from reddit RT's doesn't mean they're yours.

Weird, i searched throughout Google and didn't find any Pre-Crisis Deathstroke Respect thread, or Pre-Crisis Abra Kadabra Respect thread. Guess i stoled it from an invicible Reddit respect thread..

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@death2heretics: You should re-read it friend, it's right there on panel :)

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@killmonger101: That's debatable, and the only way I think Zeno could do it is if he's given adequate time to attack them all. He can still get blitzed and fall to their hax.

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Composite Goku roflstomps All Gold Saints.

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@thedarkpaladin: This Goku was casually destroying timelines by going Super Saiyan 4, stronger than Bardock who was destroying all of history by fighting in SSJ3. Stronger than a Beerus who casually tanked the NoT exploding easily which erased at least 30 timelines as each scroll was confirmed to be a timeline of itself. Was stated to exist out of the flow of time and space which even Zeno cannot do, One Shot Demigra in a form stronger than the one he used to destroy all of History and more. He is likely 5th Dimensional, and even lowballed very high multi universal.

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This Goku was casually destroying timelines by going Super Saiyan 4

Mind showing me the feat?

stronger than Bardock who was destroying all of history by fighting in SSJ3.

I assume you're referring to his brief battle with Mira. He never destroyed history. Events that transpired from the point of Mira losing consciousness up until he re-awakened were unable to be seen by the scroll:

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Stronger than a Beerus who casually tanked the NoT exploding easily which erased at least 30 timelines as each scroll was confirmed to be a timeline of itself.

When were the scrolls confirmed to be entire timelines and that the destruction of each scroll requires impressive DC/AP? Also, what feat are you referring to?

Was stated to exist out of the flow of time and space which even Zeno cannot do

I don't see how this is combat-applicable. Besides, didn't Zeno exist in a place devoid of space-time in DBS?

One Shot Demigra in a form stronger than the one he used to destroy all of History and more. He is likely 5th Dimensional, and even lowballed very high multi universal.

I've seen the links of VS. Battle Wiki describing what Demigra was planning to do, although they don't appear to be chock-full of context. There are also instances of Goku being overwhelmed by characters such as Demon God Boo and needing Time Patroller Trunks to rescue him. Never actually played the DBH stories myself, so I remain unsure about these characters' true capabilities. Is there an actual feat from composite Goku that rivals this:

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@thedarkpaladin: I knew you were coming lol anyway he has enough hax to out hax a team of gold saints. He may not be faster but he's fast enough.

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@thedarkpaladin: I knew you were coming lol anyway he has enough hax to out hax a team of gold saints. He may not be faster but he's fast enough.

While Darsh does have a nice array of hax, the Gold Knights certainly aren't lacking in that category either. How is Darsh going to deal with a team of characters who are faster by several orders of magnitude, have better DC feats and all the necessary tools to bypass his durability?

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@blue_marvel99: The difference is Composite has xenoverse and heroes feats as well as Shin Budokai.

And those feats come from said games.

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Dormmy? Trigon? Mordru?

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@thedarkpaladin: On phone, sorry . Won’t be able to get to the computer until the ninth. The quote loosely was Goku going SSJ4 would devastate all of time which is why he was almost never allowed to. Backed up by feats such as Makyoukya Demigra destroying all of history and the real world at full power, and Gravy stopping all of time across the multiverse. Not a time skip, a time stop.

Where is that stated? It said that after their battle history just disappeared. Nothing about the scroll not detecting history, just their battle ends———> History is gone.

History scrolls were confirmed to be timelines by Chronoa. When returning a corrupted scroll to normal, Chronoa confirms she merged the two timelines together to fix the scroll. As in merge the corrupt timeline with the scroll the correct one. I refer to when Demigra busted the time nest with his giant energy blast. And Demon God Demigra was way too weak to destroy all of history, unless you think that he is small room++ he would have enough DC to destroy the time nest. And Chronoa was not concerned at all about the time nest being destroyed until Demigra appeared which indicates it has durability of that caliber.

Vsbattleswiki? Really? And being beaten by a dark dragonball enhanced demon god kid boo isn’t fodder level.

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#48  Edited By jonjizz

lol again with this Saint Seiya highballing? these characters get regularly killed/KO by snakes, ice shards, volcanos, crumbling buildings, etc. literally all their supposed strength comes from hyperbole and speculations about stuff they say mid-fight, and even then, it's conflicting with each others statements and feats, let alone with what some fanboys ACTUALLY think they can do.

There's no need for "composite goku" to be used in this, namek saga frieza would easily do the job.

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@killmonger101:

On phone, sorry . Won’t be able to get to the computer until the ninth. The quote loosely was Goku going SSJ4 would devastate all of time which is why he was almost never allowed to. Backed up by feats such as Makyoukya Demigra destroying all of history and the real world at full power, and Gravy stopping all of time across the multiverse. Not a time skip, a time stop.

Where in the quote does it specifically mention that going SSJ4 would devastate all of time? She forbade him to use that form because it would have an effect on history, but that doesn't necessarily translate to destruction of the timeline. Besides, we've seen Xeno Goku use that transformation on more than one occasion during other missions. Nothing ever happens to the timeline, nor does there even appear to be cause for concern. Makyouka Demigra was causing the collapse of the world through a spread of Dark Energy/magical power. How does Goku's DC scale to this or a time manipulation ability?

Where is that stated? It said that after their battle history just disappeared. Nothing about the scroll not detecting history, just their battle ends———> History is gone.

Yet it's perfectly fine when Mira wakes up. So how is that destruction of a timeline? Why did it only disappear when Mira lost consciousness? That doesn't sound like it's Bardock's doing at all.

History scrolls were confirmed to be timelines by Chronoa. When returning a corrupted scroll to normal, Chronoa confirms she merged the two timelines together to fix the scroll. As in merge the corrupt timeline with the scroll the correct one. I refer to when Demigra busted the time nest with his giant energy blast. And Demon God Demigra was way too weak to destroy all of history, unless you think that he is small room++ he would have enough DC to destroy the time nest. And Chronoa was not concerned at all about the time nest being destroyed until Demigra appeared which indicates it has durability of that caliber.

Chronoa has been worried about characters even sparring with each other in the Time Nest due to fear of the Time Vault accidentally taking damage. This is precisely the reason she intervened when Goku and the MC were going to have a friendly battle with each other after Demigra's defeat during the end of Xenoverse:

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Destruction of the Time Vault causes a chain reaction that takes the entire universe with it. What indication is there to say that destroying the Vault requires one to have the DC needed to destroy the universe through conventional means? Seems redundant for Demigra to go through some elaborate plan that involves infiltrating the Time Nest and destroying the Vault if he can simply destroy the universe the old fashioned way. As for the scrolls, they're made by Chronoa for the sole purpose of recording history and are used by the Time Patrollers when they want to travel back to a certain point in time to change events that have deviated from their natural course.

Vsbattleswiki? Really?

That's what the people debating Xeno Goku normally go by, since none of them around here seem to have actually played the games.

And being beaten by a dark dragonball enhanced demon god kid boo isn’t fodder level.

It's also not good evidence for being multiversal when a fighter of Trunks' caliber is able to hold him off, albeit briefly. SSJ Xeno Goku was also overwhelmed by Namek Saga Freeza infused with a Dark Dragon Ball.

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#50  Edited By higherpower

@jonjizz said:

lol again with this Saint Seiya highballing? these characters get regularly killed/KO by snakes, ice shards, volcanos, crumbling buildings, etc. literally all their supposed strength comes from hyperbole and speculations about stuff they say mid-fight, and even then, it's conflicting with each others statements and feats, let alone with what some fanboys ACTUALLY think they can do.

There's no need for "composite goku" to be used in this, namek saga frieza would easily do the job.

Hmm.. well SSB Goku was KO'd by a laser, so I think a flashlight would be sufficient enough to kill Namek Frieza :)