War arc Naruto vs. Juubito

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Battle conditions:

  • Naruto starts in base, is after the rikudou amp, is bloodlusted
  • Juubito isnt having trouble suppressing the juubi and is bloodlusted
  • Win by death or k.o.

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SPSM Naruto > Juubito

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Naruto stomped Toneri in BSM, Juubito is around toner level so.....

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Jubito has more 6 paths chakra which is why his staff is more completed. And can summom the shinju. Jubitos biju bombs are also bigger going with obito

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@hope_w said:

Naruto stomped Toneri in BSM, Juubito is around toner level so.....

That was an older naruto with 2x kurama and 2 years of training after the war + hashiramas chakra in his arm. and still needed BSM + 6 paths chakra to knock out toneri.

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@hope_w said:

Naruto stomped Toneri in BSM, Juubito is around toner level so.....

This is War Arc Naruto. Naruto wins anyways. Six Paths Madara Pre-God tree was confirmed stronger than Juubito. RSM Naruto is closer to two Rinnegan Madara in power

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#7  Edited By Zero_Born717222

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@hope_w said:

Naruto stomped Toneri in BSM, Juubito is around toner level so.....

This is War Arc Naruto. Naruto wins anyways. Six Paths Madara Pre-God tree was confirmed stronger than Juubito. RSM Naruto is closer to two Rinnegan Madara in power

How is RSM Naruto close to two rinnegan juubidara? He needed sasukes help just to keep up with one eye juubidara. This makes sense, seeing as god tree juubidara with or without any of his eyes was too much for both naruto and sasuke, sasukes bisecting god tree juubidara was only because juubidara was physically suppressed since he didnt care about sasuke and just needed to get his rinnegan.

Also, the juubidara naruto and sasuke fought was juubidara who lost like 10% - 30% his chakra against 7 gates/8gates guy yet naruto and sasuke that fought juubidara was running on 100% since hagoromo healed them and restored there base chakra

All of that proves even no eyes juubidara with no god tree would shit on RSM Naruto in the war arc in a 1v1.

And juubito isnt even that much weaker than no eyes and no god tree juubidara. Especially because this juubito doesnt have the juubi trying to break free from the inside of him here.

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@reaverlation said:
@hope_w said:

Naruto stomped Toneri in BSM, Juubito is around toner level so.....

This is War Arc Naruto. Naruto wins anyways. Six Paths Madara Pre-God tree was confirmed stronger than Juubito. RSM Naruto is closer to two Rinnegan Madara in power

How is RSM Naruto close to two rinnegan juubidara? He needed sasukes help just to keep up with one eye juubidara and god tree juubidara with or without any eyes was too much for both naruto and sasuke.

Also, the juubidara naruto and sasuke fought was juubidara who lost like 10% - 30% his chakra against 7 gates/8gates guy yet naruto and sasuke that fought juubidara was running on 100% since hagoromo healed them and restored there base chakra

All of that proves even no eyes juubidara with no god tree would shit on RSM Naruto in the war arc in a 1v1

Que? Naruto needed Sasuke and vice versa to seal him away (Hagoromo gave them the seals since Hagoromo knew Kaguya would appear in the end anyways). When Naruto first obtained Six Paths, he blitzed Madara with Madara commenting on how much Naruto's power grew with Madara thinking he wasn't fully healed yet. Naruto summoned the Lava Rasenshuriken and what does Madara do? Runs away with Madara worrying about the Rasenshuriken. Madara absorbs the God Tree and fights the Ninja duo. What happens? Both casually react to the Lightning jutsu, Naruto dodges Light Fang, Limbo hits Naruto and doesn't do anything to Naruto. Madara then almost gets sealed with Madara escaping and running away towards his other Rinnegan. If Madara could've beat both of them right there, he wouldn't have run towards retrieving the other Rinnegan. Even obtaining both Rinnegan, Naruto's clones were still fighting the Limbo clones evenly while the real Naruto and Sasuke were easily dealing with the Chibaku Tensei. Blind Madara would get his ass kicked by either Naruto or Sasuke post six paths upgrade

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@zero_born717222 said:
@reaverlation said:
@hope_w said:

Naruto stomped Toneri in BSM, Juubito is around toner level so.....

This is War Arc Naruto. Naruto wins anyways. Six Paths Madara Pre-God tree was confirmed stronger than Juubito. RSM Naruto is closer to two Rinnegan Madara in power

How is RSM Naruto close to two rinnegan juubidara? He needed sasukes help just to keep up with one eye juubidara and god tree juubidara with or without any eyes was too much for both naruto and sasuke.

Also, the juubidara naruto and sasuke fought was juubidara who lost like 10% - 30% his chakra against 7 gates/8gates guy yet naruto and sasuke that fought juubidara was running on 100% since hagoromo healed them and restored there base chakra

All of that proves even no eyes juubidara with no god tree would shit on RSM Naruto in the war arc in a 1v1

Que? Naruto needed Sasuke and vice versa to seal him away (Hagoromo gave them the seals since Hagoromo knew Kaguya would appear in the end anyways). When Naruto first obtained Six Paths, he blitzed Madara with Madara commenting on how much Naruto's power grew with Madara thinking he wasn't fully healed yet. Naruto summoned the Lava Rasenshuriken and what does Madara do? Runs away with Madara worrying about the Rasenshuriken. Madara absorbs the God Tree and fights the Ninja duo. What happens? Both casually react to the Lightning jutsu, Naruto dodges Light Fang, Limbo hits Naruto and doesn't do anything to Naruto. Madara then almost gets sealed with Madara escaping and running away towards his other Rinnegan. If Madara could've beat both of them right there, he wouldn't have run towards retrieving the other Rinnegan. Even obtaining both Rinnegan, Naruto's clones were still fighting the Limbo clones evenly while the real Naruto and Sasuke were easily dealing with the Chibaku Tensei. Blind Madara would get his ass kicked by either Naruto or Sasuke post six paths upgrade

Again, juubidara lost 10% - 30% chakra due to guy. So he was only running from narutos lave Rs because of that. He didnt even blitz madara lol. Blitzing is when you move so fast that the person cant even comprehend your movements. Madara was not only able to comprehend narutos movements, but he was also able to block his punch with his staff, and his staff barely got cracked. And madara lost 10 -30% chakra from guy before that so its not even like the juubidara who had 100% chakra left wouldve had his staff cracked.

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Obito stomps.

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Obito stomps.

No he doesnt. At best this is a tie

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Naruto.

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Base Naruto cucked Juubidara before he absorbed God Tree.

So6P Naruto fought Kaguya 1v1 for the most part since Sasuke was stuck in another dimension.

Naruto 10/10.

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#14  Edited By Zero_Born717222

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Base Naruto cucked Juubidara before he absorbed God Tree.

So6P Naruto fought Kaguya 1v1 for the most part since Sasuke was stuck in another dimension.

Naruto 10/10.

Lol. You must be trolling or just BJORKED, because base naruto never even fought juubito.

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@zero_born717222 said:
@b_r023 said:

Base Naruto cucked Juubidara before he absorbed God Tree.

So6P Naruto fought Kaguya 1v1 for the most part since Sasuke was stuck in another dimension.

Naruto 10/10.

Lol. You must be trolling or just BJORKED, because base naruto never even fought juubito.

You are calling me retard and yet are unable to read simple sentences. I never even mentioned Juubito in my post.

Irony at its best ladies and gents.

Also, I am apparently being called Retard here.

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If we are nerfing juubito to feats only, ignoring statements, and all other capabilities he loses. How do you compare juubito who never tried to Naruto who had the opportunity to show everything since he faced stronger opponents. The guy who only faced weak opponents wont show a small fragment of his strength because there is no need to.

If we dont nerf juubito by giving him everything he can logically do he would win

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If we are nerfing juubito to feats only, ignoring statements, and all other capabilities he loses. How do you compare juubito who never tried to Naruto who had the opportunity to show everything since he faced stronger opponents. The guy who only faced weak opponents wont show a small fragment of his strength because there is no need to.

If we dont nerf juubito by giving him everything he can logically do he would win

When Madara absorbed the tailed beasts, which were more complete compared to what Obito absorbed, he became more powerful than Obito even by Minato's words. Naruto has no trouble fighting this Madara, God Tree Madara or Madara with both Rinnegan. Naruto is clearly more powerful than Obito

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#18  Edited By Zero_Born717222

@b_r023 said:
@zero_born717222 said:
@b_r023 said:

Base Naruto cucked Juubidara before he absorbed God Tree.

So6P Naruto fought Kaguya 1v1 for the most part since Sasuke was stuck in another dimension.

Naruto 10/10.

Lol. You must be trolling or just BJORKED, because base naruto never even fought juubito.

You are calling me retard and yet are unable to read simple sentences. I never even mentioned Juubito in my post.

Irony at its best ladies and gents.

Also, I am apparently being called Retard here.

Lol my bad man. Im on mobile. Anyways, you're post was still wrong.

Base naruto never fought juubidara, but rikudou naruto did.

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Naruto had no trouble fighting madara in a taijutsu battle but that’s it and he was losing.

Naruto basically said he could not beat madara alone and needed sasuke to do it. Naruto and Sasuke together could not touch Madara once he got both eyes, that’s what happened and thats what the author was portraying.

Juubito has more raw power, large portion of the juubi >>> half of hagaromos power, kuramas power doesnt compare to six paths power. In hax Juubito wins, deva path to send back all rasengans, preta path to absorb chakra.

The reason six paths madaras didnt use preta path against narutos FRS was plot, same reason he didnt use PS or spam wood clones. edo madara absorbed narutos FRS. There is no reason six paths madara cant absorb six paths narutos FRS after they both received the same power but madaras power up was greater. Madara absorbed it before no reason he couldnt do it again this applies to juubito.

Shin jukai kouton solos naruto, Obito was going to use this jutsu after the shinju put everyone in genjustu. Naruto has nothing to survive a planetary wood style jutsu that absorbs chakra. A wood dragon alone took out kurama. Upgrade both parties with six paths chakra the result would be the same but now the wood style jutsu is planet level, comes from every direction, and endlessly regenerates, Naruto is finished.

in an all out no abilities ignored fight juubito wins.

Feats only naruto wins

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Naruto had no trouble fighting madara in a taijutsu battle but that’s it and he was losing.

Naruto basically said he could not beat madara alone and needed sasuke to do it. Naruto and Sasuke together could not touch Madara once he got both eyes, that’s what happened and thats what the author was portraying.

Juubito has more raw power, large portion of the juubi >>> half of hagaromos power, kuramas power doesnt compare to six paths power. In hax Juubito wins, deva path to send back all rasengans, preta path to absorb chakra.

The reason six paths madaras didnt use preta path against narutos FRS was plot, same reason he didnt use PS or spam wood clones. edo madara absorbed narutos FRS. There is no reason six paths madara cant absorb six paths narutos FRS after they both received the same power but madaras power up was greater. Madara absorbed it before no reason he couldnt do it again this applies to juubito.

Shin jukai kouton solos naruto, Obito was going to use this jutsu after the shinju put everyone in genjustu. Naruto has nothing to survive a planetary wood style jutsu that absorbs chakra. A wood dragon alone took out kurama. Upgrade both parties with six paths chakra the result would be the same but now the wood style jutsu is planet level, comes from every direction, and endlessly regenerates, Naruto is finished.

in an all out no abilities ignored fight juubito wins.

Feats only naruto wins

When was Naruto losing to Madara post Six Paths amp? Every attack Madara did: Naruto punted his TSB, dodged Limbo, casually blocked Lightning jutsu, dodged the light fang, got hit by Limbo with no damage whatsoever, shadow clones fought Limbo clones evenly and Naruto casually destroyed the Chibaku Tensei meteors. Naruto had little trouble with Madara.

Naruto couldn't seal Madara by himself, especially since Hagoromo knew Kaguya was gonna appear anyways in which the seals were for her. When he received both eyes, Naruto's clones were easily fighting the Limbo clones and both Naruto and Sasuke casually took apart the meteors.

We've already seen how much superior half of Kurama is compared to the other tailed beasts. The other eight would be more powerful than half Kurama, which is what Obito had plus the Rinnegan. What did Naruto have? Half of Kurama as a jinchuriki, chakra from the other tailed beasts and Hagoromo's chakra. Difference? Naruto literally had chakra in quality and no possibly quantity. Naruto had no trouble fighting and no more powerful version of Obito via Madara.

I think everyone knows Madara's hax (Guy would've died without help and Madara was basically toying with him). I don't think I've said Naruto would beat Madara because Madara and Naruto are in the same ballpark in power (Madara being more powerful with double Rinnegan and rinnesharigan) but his hax was never really exploited. Obito has Rinnegan abilities but it wouldn't be as powerful as Madara's or Sasuke.

Obito doesn't have feats or power to use Wood Release on a planetary scale like Madara since Madara was undeniably more powerful than Obito (More complete Six Paths power, both Rinnegan that belong to Madara, God tree and Rinnesharigan). Obito has no way of dealing with one thousand shadow clones and the power that Naruto has plus Naruto can absorb more Nature energy. Obito can't deal with Naruto's raw power

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Naruto was strong enough to give Juubidara trouble, so he should be strong enough to beat Juubito.

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this deserve a lock

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Its really hard to decide.

Naruto after rikudo buff he was really strong but so is Juubito.

Assuming Juubito won't succumb to TnJ, lets check their stat

1. Chakra: Juubito>>> Naruto here. So, unlike most of Naruto's opponent, Jubbito will outlast him in this battle if gets drag on.

2. Strength: Juubito just by coming down created huge crater. I thing that feat alone put Jubito above Naruto in strength. And also,Juubito easily destroy Hakage's barrier that contend a Juubidama.

3. Intelligence: Undoubtedly Juubito is much more intelligent and experienced.

4. Speed: Naruto has the edge, but Juubito should be able to react to.

5. Techniques: All Naruto used are shadow clones and rasengan variants. No saying, those aren't versatile but Juubito has wide range of abilities. If Naruto tries to overwhelm him with number, he can simply create a barrier and bust the entire area with 4 Juubidama. I don't think Naruto is coming out of it fine, assuming he can survive it.

6. Healing factor: Both are about equal.

Overall, Juubito edge out Naruto .

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Naruto stomps with ease

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Its really hard to decide.

Naruto after rikudo buff he was really strong but so is Juubito.

Assuming Juubito won't succumb to TnJ, lets check their stat

1. Chakra: Juubito>>> Naruto here. So, unlike most of Naruto's opponent, Jubbito will outlast him in this battle if gets drag on.

2. Strength: Juubito just by coming down created huge crater. I thing that feat alone put Jubito above Naruto in strength. And also,Juubito easily destroy Hakage's barrier that contend a Juubidama.

3. Intelligence: Undoubtedly Juubito is much more intelligent and experienced.

4. Speed: Naruto has the edge, but Juubito should be able to react to.

5. Techniques: All Naruto used are shadow clones and rasengan variants. No saying, those aren't versatile but Juubito has wide range of abilities. If Naruto tries to overwhelm him with number, he can simply create a barrier and bust the entire area with 4 Juubidama. I don't think Naruto is coming out of it fine, assuming he can survive it.

6. Healing factor: Both are about equal.

Overall, Juubito edge out Naruto .

1. Naruto being Ashura reincarnation, Chakra given from Hagoromo himself, half of Kurama and Chakra of the other tailed beasts. If Obito has more chakra, the gap is small

2. Naruto left a huge crack in the Shinju Tree by indirectly punching it through Madara and his chakra arms matched Kaguya's chakra arms. Kaguya >>>>> Obito

3. But Naruto has very high battle tactics. A comparison would be Obito is Batman and Naruto is Captain America in tactics

4. At best, Juubito is slightly above BSM Naruto and EMS Curse Mark Sasuke. RSM Naruto would give Obito hell in speed

5. Naruto would shred apart the Crimson Barrier since his chakra arms can match Kaguya chakra arms plus his Kurama avatar can match Sasuke's Perfect Susanno. Also Naruto survived the VOTE explosion which is way superior to the four Bijuudama.

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Naruto wins, lockable tbh

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#27  Edited By Zero_Born717222

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@great_black_star said:

Its really hard to decide.

Naruto after rikudo buff he was really strong but so is Juubito.

Assuming Juubito won't succumb to TnJ, lets check their stat

1. Chakra: Juubito>>> Naruto here. So, unlike most of Naruto's opponent, Jubbito will outlast him in this battle if gets drag on.

2. Strength: Juubito just by coming down created huge crater. I thing that feat alone put Jubito above Naruto in strength. And also,Juubito easily destroy Hakage's barrier that contend a Juubidama.

3. Intelligence: Undoubtedly Juubito is much more intelligent and experienced.

4. Speed: Naruto has the edge, but Juubito should be able to react to.

5. Techniques: All Naruto used are shadow clones and rasengan variants. No saying, those aren't versatile but Juubito has wide range of abilities. If Naruto tries to overwhelm him with number, he can simply create a barrier and bust the entire area with 4 Juubidama. I don't think Naruto is coming out of it fine, assuming he can survive it.

6. Healing factor: Both are about equal.

Overall, Juubito edge out Naruto .

1. Naruto being Ashura reincarnation, Chakra given from Hagoromo himself, half of Kurama and Chakra of the other tailed beasts. If Obito has more chakra, the gap is small

2. Naruto left a huge crack in the Shinju Tree by indirectly punching it through Madara and his chakra arms matched Kaguya's chakra arms. Kaguya >>>>> Obito

3. But Naruto has very high battle tactics. A comparison would be Obito is Batman and Naruto is Captain America in tactics

4. At best, Juubito is slightly above BSM Naruto and EMS Curse Mark Sasuke. RSM Naruto would give Obito hell in speed

5. Naruto would shred apart the Crimson Barrier since his chakra arms can match Kaguya chakra arms plus his Kurama avatar can match Sasuke's Perfect Susanno. Also Naruto survived the VOTE explosion which is way superior to the four Bijuudama.

1. Nope. Juubito that fought naruto and sasuke and the alliance was an already running low on chakra juubito, because obito's base chakra was running low before he became juubi jin. And obitos base chakra at 100% is very large, comparable to naruto's at least.

Naruto didnt get ALL the chakra of the tailed beasts, he got very small bits of each there chakra. Roughly 1% each.

Juubito was having the juubi rampage inside of him and tear him apart mentally from the inside, so that slowed him down a lot against naruto and sasuke and the alliance and the edo hokage. But in this battle the juubi isnt rampaging at all inside him so he wont be slowed down by that at all, meanimg not only will he be physically stronger/faster because of that, but also because of that he will now be able to use Kamui and his rinnegan abilities, since now the juubi wont be able to interfere with him using those powers.

And also he has his base chakra recovered in tjis battle to 100% unlike when he fought naruto and sasuke and alliance and the edo hokage.

All of that means juubito in this fight should be >>>>>> juubito that fought naruto and sasuke and the rest.

2. That was 6 paths mode v1 naruto, the naruto that fought kaguya was 6 paths mode v2 naruto.

Kaguya is only that much above the juubito in that fight, as i explained above juubito in this fight is much stronger than that juubito.

3. In battle smarts they are equal but juubito does indeed have more experience than naruto does here

4. Juubito was destroying EMS Sasuke (whose full body susanoo was amped by curse mark) and BSM Naruto lol and again juubito was heavily nerfed against them regardless for reasons i already went over

5. But the juubito in this fight has way more power meaning his crimson barrier should be much stronger than it was in the show. Meaning juubito here is fast enough to keep up with this naruto and will use his wood style or rinnegan or kamui, all naruto has is shadow clones and chakra blasts.

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SO6P Naruto wins

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@reaverlation said:
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Its really hard to decide.

Naruto after rikudo buff he was really strong but so is Juubito.

Assuming Juubito won't succumb to TnJ, lets check their stat

1. Chakra: Juubito>>> Naruto here. So, unlike most of Naruto's opponent, Jubbito will outlast him in this battle if gets drag on.

2. Strength: Juubito just by coming down created huge crater. I thing that feat alone put Jubito above Naruto in strength. And also,Juubito easily destroy Hakage's barrier that contend a Juubidama.

3. Intelligence: Undoubtedly Juubito is much more intelligent and experienced.

4. Speed: Naruto has the edge, but Juubito should be able to react to.

5. Techniques: All Naruto used are shadow clones and rasengan variants. No saying, those aren't versatile but Juubito has wide range of abilities. If Naruto tries to overwhelm him with number, he can simply create a barrier and bust the entire area with 4 Juubidama. I don't think Naruto is coming out of it fine, assuming he can survive it.

6. Healing factor: Both are about equal.

Overall, Juubito edge out Naruto .

1. Naruto being Ashura reincarnation, Chakra given from Hagoromo himself, half of Kurama and Chakra of the other tailed beasts. If Obito has more chakra, the gap is small

2. Naruto left a huge crack in the Shinju Tree by indirectly punching it through Madara and his chakra arms matched Kaguya's chakra arms. Kaguya >>>>> Obito

3. But Naruto has very high battle tactics. A comparison would be Obito is Batman and Naruto is Captain America in tactics

4. At best, Juubito is slightly above BSM Naruto and EMS Curse Mark Sasuke. RSM Naruto would give Obito hell in speed

5. Naruto would shred apart the Crimson Barrier since his chakra arms can match Kaguya chakra arms plus his Kurama avatar can match Sasuke's Perfect Susanno. Also Naruto survived the VOTE explosion which is way superior to the four Bijuudama.

1. Nope. Juubito that fought naruto and sasuke and the alliance was an already running low on chakra juubito, because obito's base chakra was running low before he became juubi jin. And obitos base chakra at 100% is very large, comparable to naruto's at least.

Naruto didnt get ALL the chakra of the tailed beasts, he got very small bits of each there chakra. Roughly 1% each.

Juubito was having the juubi rampage inside of him and tear him apart mentally from the inside, so that slowed him down a lot against naruto and sasuke and the alliance and the edo hokage. But in this battle the juubi isnt rampaging at all inside him so he wont be slowed down by that at all, meanimg not only will he be physically stronger/faster because of that, but also because of that he will now be able to use Kamui and his rinnegan abilities, since now the juubi wont be able to interfere with him using those powers.

And also he has his base chakra recovered in tjis battle to 100% unlike when he fought naruto and sasuke and alliance and the edo hokage.

All of that means juubito in this fight should be >>>>>> juubito that fought naruto and sasuke and the rest.

2. That was 6 paths mode v1 naruto, the naruto that fought kaguya was 6 paths mode v2 naruto.

Kaguya is only that much above the juubito in that fight, as i explained above juubito in this fight is much stronger than that juubito.

3. In battle smarts they are equal but juubito does indeed have more experience than naruto does here

4. Juubito was destroying EMS Sasuke (whose full body susanoo was amped by curse mark) and BSM Naruto lol and again juubito was heavily nerfed against them regardless for reasons i already went over

5. But the juubito in this fight has way more power meaning his crimson barrier should be much stronger than it was in the show. Meaning juubito here is fast enough to keep up with this naruto and will use his wood style or rinnegan or kamui, all naruto has is shadow clones and chakra blasts.

Proof of these numbers you're randomly coming up with? You're making things up again. Obito regained control of the Juubi once he brought out the Staff of Six Paths. Obito can't use Kamui cause of the Ten Tails per Obito's words. Obito could always use the Rinnegan abilities but never chose to.

Proof of this second version of RSM? You keep making things up. Kaguya is in a different league compared to Obito and it's hilarious you think they're anywhere close

Obito was never nerfed. Prove this and stop making things up

One Rinnegan Madara was more powerful than Obito. Naruto fought more powerful characters than Obito and either wrecked them or held his own with Madara, Kaguya and Sasuke.

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Anyway Naruto, obviously.

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Its really hard to decide.

Naruto after rikudo buff he was really strong but so is Juubito.

Assuming Juubito won't succumb to TnJ, lets check their stat

1. Chakra: Juubito>>> Naruto here. So, unlike most of Naruto's opponent, Jubbito will outlast him in this battle if gets drag on.

2. Strength: Juubito just by coming down created huge crater. I thing that feat alone put Jubito above Naruto in strength. And also,Juubito easily destroy Hakage's barrier that contend a Juubidama.

3. Intelligence: Undoubtedly Juubito is much more intelligent and experienced.

4. Speed: Naruto has the edge, but Juubito should be able to react to.

5. Techniques: All Naruto used are shadow clones and rasengan variants. No saying, those aren't versatile but Juubito has wide range of abilities. If Naruto tries to overwhelm him with number, he can simply create a barrier and bust the entire area with 4 Juubidama. I don't think Naruto is coming out of it fine, assuming he can survive it.

6. Healing factor: Both are about equal.

Overall, Juubito edge out Naruto .

1. Naruto being Ashura reincarnation, Chakra given from Hagoromo himself, half of Kurama and Chakra of the other tailed beasts. If Obito has more chakra, the gap is small

Naruto never got much chakra from other beast. Only small portion of them.

2. Naruto left a huge crack in the Shinju Tree by indirectly punching it through Madara and his chakra arms matched Kaguya's chakra arms. Kaguya >>>>> Obito

What kind of scaling is this? Kaguya hasn't shown any notable durability feat so far. And Naruto surprised Kaguya.

3. But Naruto has very high battle tactics. A comparison would be Obito is Batman and Naruto is Captain America in tactics

No, just stop. Naruto is simply unpredictable sometime, but that is not a problem.

4. At best, Juubito is slightly above BSM Naruto and EMS Curse Mark Sasuke. RSM Naruto would give Obito hell in speed

Just read the manga.

5. Naruto would shred apart the Crimson Barrier since his chakra arms can match Kaguya chakra arms plus his Kurama avatar can match Sasuke's Perfect Susanno. Also Naruto survived the VOTE explosion which is way superior to the four Bijuudama.

Naruto has no feat to suggest that. He might be able to with BIjuudama rasenshuriken, but he has no strength feat to suggest he can break something that hold up 4 Juubidama from a more mature and controlled Juubi.

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Juubies win

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Six Paths Naruto wins. Juubito had an edge to BSM Naruto (he needed help from sasuke and the others to defeat him). Six paths Naruto > Juubito > BSM Naruto.

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Its really hard to decide.

Naruto after rikudo buff he was really strong but so is Juubito.

Assuming Juubito won't succumb to TnJ, lets check their stat

1. Chakra: Juubito>>> Naruto here. So, unlike most of Naruto's opponent, Jubbito will outlast him in this battle if gets drag on.

2. Strength: Juubito just by coming down created huge crater. I thing that feat alone put Jubito above Naruto in strength. And also,Juubito easily destroy Hakage's barrier that contend a Juubidama.

3. Intelligence: Undoubtedly Juubito is much more intelligent and experienced.

4. Speed: Naruto has the edge, but Juubito should be able to react to.

5. Techniques: All Naruto used are shadow clones and rasengan variants. No saying, those aren't versatile but Juubito has wide range of abilities. If Naruto tries to overwhelm him with number, he can simply create a barrier and bust the entire area with 4 Juubidama. I don't think Naruto is coming out of it fine, assuming he can survive it.

6. Healing factor: Both are about equal.

Overall, Juubito edge out Naruto .

1. Naruto being Ashura reincarnation, Chakra given from Hagoromo himself, half of Kurama and Chakra of the other tailed beasts. If Obito has more chakra, the gap is small

2. Naruto left a huge crack in the Shinju Tree by indirectly punching it through Madara and his chakra arms matched Kaguya's chakra arms. Kaguya >>>>> Obito

3. But Naruto has very high battle tactics. A comparison would be Obito is Batman and Naruto is Captain America in tactics

4. At best, Juubito is slightly above BSM Naruto and EMS Curse Mark Sasuke. RSM Naruto would give Obito hell in speed

5. Naruto would shred apart the Crimson Barrier since his chakra arms can match Kaguya chakra arms plus his Kurama avatar can match Sasuke's Perfect Susanno. Also Naruto survived the VOTE explosion which is way superior to the four Bijuudama.

1. Nope. Juubito that fought naruto and sasuke and the alliance was an already running low on chakra juubito, because obito's base chakra was running low before he became juubi jin. And obitos base chakra at 100% is very large, comparable to naruto's at least.

Naruto didnt get ALL the chakra of the tailed beasts, he got very small bits of each there chakra. Roughly 1% each.

Juubito was having the juubi rampage inside of him and tear him apart mentally from the inside, so that slowed him down a lot against naruto and sasuke and the alliance and the edo hokage. But in this battle the juubi isnt rampaging at all inside him so he wont be slowed down by that at all, meanimg not only will he be physically stronger/faster because of that, but also because of that he will now be able to use Kamui and his rinnegan abilities, since now the juubi wont be able to interfere with him using those powers.

And also he has his base chakra recovered in tjis battle to 100% unlike when he fought naruto and sasuke and alliance and the edo hokage.

All of that means juubito in this fight should be >>>>>> juubito that fought naruto and sasuke and the rest.

2. That was 6 paths mode v1 naruto, the naruto that fought kaguya was 6 paths mode v2 naruto.

Kaguya is only that much above the juubito in that fight, as i explained above juubito in this fight is much stronger than that juubito.

3. In battle smarts they are equal but juubito does indeed have more experience than naruto does here

4. Juubito was destroying EMS Sasuke (whose full body susanoo was amped by curse mark) and BSM Naruto lol and again juubito was heavily nerfed against them regardless for reasons i already went over

5. But the juubito in this fight has way more power meaning his crimson barrier should be much stronger than it was in the show. Meaning juubito here is fast enough to keep up with this naruto and will use his wood style or rinnegan or kamui, all naruto has is shadow clones and chakra blasts.

Proof of these numbers you're randomly coming up with? You're making things up again. Obito regained control of the Juubi once he brought out the Staff of Six Paths. Obito can't use Kamui cause of the Ten Tails per Obito's words. Obito could always use the Rinnegan abilities but never chose to.

Proof of this second version of RSM? You keep making things up. Kaguya is in a different league compared to Obito and it's hilarious you think they're anywhere close

Obito was never nerfed. Prove this and stop making things up

One Rinnegan Madara was more powerful than Obito. Naruto fought more powerful characters than Obito and either wrecked them or held his own with Madara, Kaguya and Sasuke.

Obito was saying that because the juubi was mentally destroying him making it impossible to have the focus required to use kamui. Not sure if the juubis ramage in him was enough so that he couldnt use rinnegan either, who knows.

RSM v1 is the one that punched madaras staff. RSM v2 is the cloaked one. I thought everyone knew this.

How is kaguya way above juubito? Juubito was heavily nerfed physically by the juubis rampage and his inner conflicts from naruto talk no jutsuing him. Also his base chakra was nowhere near 100% against them, since before he became juubi jin he lost alot of base chakra by using rinnei tensei to revive madara and before that from fighting the alliance, kakashi, bee, narito, kakashi, and gai.

Meaning juubito in this battle is way above the juubito we saw.

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Naruto had no trouble fighting madara in a taijutsu battle but that’s it and he was losing.

Naruto basically said he could not beat madara alone and needed sasuke to do it. Naruto and Sasuke together could not touch Madara once he got both eyes, that’s what happened and thats what the author was portraying.

Juubito has more raw power, large portion of the juubi >>> half of hagaromos power, kuramas power doesnt compare to six paths power. In hax Juubito wins, deva path to send back all rasengans, preta path to absorb chakra.

The reason six paths madaras didnt use preta path against narutos FRS was plot, same reason he didnt use PS or spam wood clones. edo madara absorbed narutos FRS. There is no reason six paths madara cant absorb six paths narutos FRS after they both received the same power but madaras power up was greater. Madara absorbed it before no reason he couldnt do it again this applies to juubito.

Shin jukai kouton solos naruto, Obito was going to use this jutsu after the shinju put everyone in genjustu. Naruto has nothing to survive a planetary wood style jutsu that absorbs chakra. A wood dragon alone took out kurama. Upgrade both parties with six paths chakra the result would be the same but now the wood style jutsu is planet level, comes from every direction, and endlessly regenerates, Naruto is finished.

in an all out no abilities ignored fight juubito wins.

Feats only naruto wins

When was Naruto losing to Madara post Six Paths amp? Every attack Madara did: Naruto punted his TSB, dodged Limbo, casually blocked Lightning jutsu, dodged the light fang, got hit by Limbo with no damage whatsoever, shadow clones fought Limbo clones evenly and Naruto casually destroyed the Chibaku Tensei meteors. Naruto had little trouble with Madara.

Okay I guess it was only in the anime when Narutos clone were fighting madaras shadows they were losing. He didnt get hit by limbo. we know madara was using barely any power as he called them raindrops while naruto had to resort to his strongest techniques.

Naruto couldn't seal Madara by himself, especially since Hagoromo knew Kaguya was gonna appear anyways in which the seals were for her. When he received both eyes, Naruto's clones were easily fighting the Limbo clones and both Naruto and Sasuke casually took apart the meteors.

If naruto couldve beat him on his own he wouldnt need a seal in the first place he'd just beat him like how they beat juubito. Madara couldve made those meteors 10x bigger if he wanted, just saying.

We've already seen how much superior half of Kurama is compared to the other tailed beasts. The other eight would be more powerful than half Kurama, which is what Obito had plus the Rinnegan. What did Naruto have? Half of Kurama as a jinchuriki, chakra from the other tailed beasts and Hagoromo's chakra. Difference? Naruto literally had chakra in quality and no possibly quantity. Naruto had no trouble fighting and no more powerful version of Obito via Madara.

Yes kurama is superior to the others but the juubi is astronomically above kurama where you cant compare the 2. You have to add in gedo mazo too which is equivalent to a bijuu. As stated by Madara, Naruto got a piece of the other bijuu also "The Whole is greater than the sum of its parts". Adding bijuu chakra together is not equal to the fusion of all the bijuu + gedo mazo. Naruto had Hagoromos chakra plus slightly more bijuu chakra than having kurama alone it wasnt a significant increase. Still below juubi chakra. What matters as well is the use of that power madara and obito barely used their power, they didnt use the rinnegan one bit nor were they trying to kill. Madara didnt decide to kill until after casting I.T and that is when he got stabbed in the back.

I think everyone knows Madara's hax (Guy would've died without help and Madara was basically toying with him). I don't think I've said Naruto would beat Madara because Madara and Naruto are in the same ballpark in power (Madara being more powerful with double Rinnegan and rinnesharigan) but his hax was never really exploited. Obito has Rinnegan abilities but it wouldn't be as powerful as Madara's or Sasuke.

Wouldnt be as powerful as Madara's but we never saw the extent to which madara used his rinnegan. Obito could use the 6 paths technique and they be proportionate to his power, a shinra tensai would blow any technique naruto has away. Sasuke has better usage and techniques as hes using his own eye but because he has less chakra than obito he has less raw power

Obito doesn't have feats or power to use Wood Release on a planetary scale like Madara since Madara was undeniably more powerful than Obito (More complete Six Paths power, both Rinnegan that belong to Madara, God tree and Rinnesharigan). Obito has no way of dealing with one thousand shadow clones and the power that Naruto has plus Naruto can absorb more Nature energy. Obito can't deal with Naruto's raw power

Juubis chakra was compared to a planet by the alliance why wouldnt obito be able to produce a planetary technique when he has the majority of the juubi. Being weaker than madara does not mean he cant do the same techniques as madara. Obito was still going to use I.T it just took more time. Obitos goal was to put everyone in the dream world and keep them there alive, if Obito used I.T and everyone was in genjutsu how would he keep them all alive if he wasnt capable of using that jutsu, everyone would die if he couldnt use it which defeats the purpose of using I.T. And obito can absorb all that chakra using preta path it has no limit. It was stated by himself, konan, guy and kakashi he could use the paths. He could endlessly absorb the chakra from the clones and use Shinra Tensai to blast them away. Do you see how OP the rinnegan this is why nobody above nagato was allowed to use it.

TSB could casually handle 4 juubi balls he can handle FRSs and he still has kamui teleportation as we have seen with madara he just cant phase through objects. He could teleport himself back and forth to dodge narutos attacks and do sneak attacks.