Wano Zoro and Sanji vs Doflamingo

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Poll Wano Zoro and Sanji vs Doflamingo (93 votes)

Team takes him down 34%
Still Doffy 32%
Zoro solos 29%
Sanji solos 4%

In a straight up fight

No prep with basic knowledge

Doffy kidnapped Nami and Robin, executed Lord Yasuie so Team is blood-lusted, Doffy is in-character

Zoro gets enma and Sanji with the raid suit.

Ebisu Town, 100 ft apart

Doffy replaces Orochi and his goons

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This is a hard one. Probably team but in hard fight

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Doflamingo still soloing until zoro and sanji gets some new feats.

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I say the team in a tough fight with Zoro being the MVP.

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Doffy still solos casually.

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Mingo still beating them casually

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Doffy still stomps. This will probably change after they get their first big Wano fight I believe.

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I swear this has been made at least 4 times since Wano started.

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From a story POV, Dressrosa wasn't even a month ago in OP. Then again, Luffy somehow got stronger in that time, but still duo needs more feats.

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Doffy still Dominates.

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Doffy, a not that much weaker sanji lost in literal seconds, zoro will lose in a similar time frame.

Maybe together they could last a few minutes?

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Doflamingo wins until they get new feats, but I won’t be surprised if they end up having the ability to win.

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Zoro solos

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Zoro solos, Doffy is overrated as fuck

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#14 socajunkie  Moderator

Sanji still can’t hurt or keep up with Doffy and Zoro has the power but no speed feats to compete.

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Zoro

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Still Doffy, they either aren't fast enough (zoro) or aren't strong enough (sanji).

There won't be a time when the two of them vs Doffy is a fair fight. They'll jump up to being able to solo him by the end of Wano.

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#17 juiceboks  Moderator

Sanji still can’t hurt or keep up with Doffy and Zoro has the power but no speed feats to compete.

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They haven't done anything yet to say they can push Doffy to anything beyond low diff

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#19  Edited By StealthGrey

How can Doffy even see Sanji? With RS Sanji tanked Pteranodon King's dive bomb at high speed with little to no injury. Zoro now has Enma, a Sword which gave Kaido his only scar. And Recently in Anime Sanji took down Allosaurus Drake with Extra Hachis.

And all those power boosts going to waste?

I don't think so

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@shirso said:

They haven't done anything yet to say they can push Doffy to anything beyond low diff

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Team take it if we’re scaling off of Luffy

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#22 juiceboks  Moderator

How can Doffy even see Sanji? With RS Sanji tanked Pteranodon King's beak attack at high speed with little to no injury. Zoro now has Enma, a Sword which gave Kaido his only scar. And Recently in Anime Sanji took down Allosaurus Drake with Extra Hachis.

And all those power boosts going to waste?

I don't think so

Observation Haki? Durability can be taxed and the suit won't help him against Parasite String or just being restrained. Zoro has the power but lacks the speed to compensate. That anime scene contradicts the manga, not that X Drake measures up to Doflamingo with his current feats anyway.

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Zoro has been able to force Doffys hand since Dressora. The fact people actually dont think so is virtually astounding to me. A 1080 would close to oneshot Doffy, just because he didnt try to cut birdcage with the best of his ability doesnt mean he cant

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Wano Zoro alone would suffice to win, expecially his current version. So Sanji won't be needed as support I guess.

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I have no doubts that if Sanji and Zoro work together then they can definitely beat Doflamingo, with Zoro's utter defense and that of being able to cut a full armanent user, he would definitely rival Doflamingo, but there's one thing though that would give him trouble. Doflamingo can fly and he can't.
As for Sanji, even though we already saw him fight Doflamingo once, I know he'd do better on the ground, as Doflamingo's speciality is in the air like Jinbei's is in the water. But if these two work together then Zoro and Sanji could win, although if they were to fight together for real, they most likely would probably be goofing off by saying that was my shot, and Doffy getting repulsively angry and start beating the sense into them so that they may fight together, but we all know at first they ain't gonna be doing much until they get serious.

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Doffy, a not that much weaker sanji lost in literal seconds, zoro will lose in a similar time frame.

Maybe together they could last a few minutes?

Exactly, I have no idea why people are saying Zoro would solo Doflamingo, thats like saying Zoro would have an easier time with Sanji if they fought in the TS than Doflamingo did, which we know Zoro is going to high-extreme Sanji in any saga.

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People need to remember Doffy was taking gear 4 hits without haki 90% of the time. He’s hella durable

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#29 socajunkie  Moderator

Current Zoro and Sanji would definitely win if this fight took place in-universe, I’m not even the slightest bit doubtful of that. With their thematic growth and team work, Oda just wouldn’t write them losing at this point in time. Once again though, by feats Zoro lacks the speed to touch Doffy and Sanji lacks the speed and power to keep up with and damage Doffy.

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#30  Edited By Mee09

Sanji's durability, speed, and striking power have gone WAAY up with the suit and Wano Sanji without the suit is already stronger than he was during Dressrosa and has mastered his precog now.

1v1 that would be a high diff fight for Doffy. With Zoro here they have a Gamma Knife thanks to Enma.

I'm pretty confident in thinking that Zoro and Sanji are winning this time around. Doffy already said Sanji was strong before. He won't be blocking a barrage of kicks from Sanji like he did during Dressrosa.

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doffy still

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@socajunkie:Hey mate, I was wondering, what level do you think Sanji will reach by EoS? It's basically a foregone conclusion that Zoro will surpass Mihawk, someone who was able to spar with a Yonko and is superior to Rayleigh, who can, in turn, hold his own against an Admiral and, in the anime at least, make a joke out of G4 Luffy. Will Sanji likely reach just below Mihawk level - sitting pretty around the level of an Admiral?

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If Mihawk is the Yonko of the Seven Original Warlords then Doflamingo is certainly their first commander.

I think Doffy still wins. His haki is top notch and neither Zoro or Sanji should be able to stop his strings.

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Zoro oneshots.

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still doffy

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I'd take the team but Doffy is still higher than em individually.

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Maybe team high dif

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I got doffy currently. I don't think zoro is very close to doflamingo and sanji already lost.

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@noqualms said:

I got doffy currently. I don't think zoro is very close to doflamingo and sanji already lost.

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#40 krisbishop  Moderator

@shirso said:

Doffy still stomps. This will probably change after they get their first big Wano fight I believe.

Crazy to think that 11 months later and still no big fights have happened.

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#41 socajunkie  Moderator

@alphaq: Narrative-wise, Sanji has always been Zoro’s peer and a little below him in overall ability so while EoS Zoro should near Yonko level with superiority to Mihawk, Sanji I imagine would be sitting at Admiral level at a minimum.

I do think a time skip will occur though before the Straw Hats surpass the prior generations simply because it’s been consistent that One Piece characters don’t hit their primes until middle age relative to the real world- so their 40s and 50s- in Big Mom’s case, her late 60s

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Zoro can solo at this stage of the story

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I'm pretty sure Zoro and Sanji have what it takes

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Still doffy. it took G4 Luffy after Doffy was internally wounded by law for Luffy to pull off the win. I don't see them taking out a full powered doffy.

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I mean, Doffy is at best somewhere between 1st and 2nd yonkou commander level, and within next several chapters Zoro and Sanji are supposed to start fighting Queen and King. So I guess they should be able to defeat Doffy now.

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Zoro is pretty sure that he came to Onigashima to defeat (not alone) Kaido. He was holding the sword which gave Kaido his only scar and now he seems a lot faster. He should be able to defeat Doffy alone high diff in my opinion

People should remember piercing damage > blunt force

Ni gorilla or Asura would f*ck up Doffy

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I doubt Doflamingo can harm Sanji which is an insane but seemingly true statement. With Zoro's offense, the team wins

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Either one of the team should win now, if they gonna actually fight yonko commanders their level is already above Doffy

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@socajunkie: That makes sense to me, thanks for the response, mate.

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@enemybird: Why would Doffy be unable to harm Sanji?