Wano Luffy vs Marineford Blackbeard

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Poll Wano Luffy vs Marineford Blackbeard (60 votes)

Luffy murders that fat fool 62%
Zehahahaha, Teach still quakes his rubber ass 30%
Stalemate 3%

Current Luffy

MF Teach with two devil fruits: yami & gura-gura

Ace died at MF but Teach make fun of him, so Luffy is bloodlusted

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Luffy bodies him

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I'd bet on Teach because he seemed to beat Ace without too much trouble and the Quake-Quake fruit ain't nothing you want in contact with you.

With the above said it's not a stomp, Blackbeard will probably walk away hurt.

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Teach one-shot

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luffy in a tough fight.

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#5  Edited By Sup3rn0va

Blackbeard was beaten by a Whitebeard that by all accounts belonged in a coffin, I don't really see how you can say he'd win here, especially since Luffy at this point has injured and evaded an attack from a Yonko who was in a much better condition than Whitebeard was even at the beginning of Marineford.

And there's the fact that Kaido is implied to be stronger than Old Whitebeard to top it all off.

The only saving grace Blackbeard has is Whitebeard's devil fruit, but it matters little when he's slow and not very durable.

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#6 Gilateen  Online

Luffy, easily

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Pre skip Luffy blitzed him already. And current Luffy>>>>>>>>>Impel down Luffy

Not to mention ryou

But if it's current Blackbeard. Idk

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BB

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Luffy high diff. I think it's fair to say at this point that he's firmly admiral tier, if his hits without going all-out are capable of knocking down a non-drunk Kaido and surprising Big Mom then BB is in serious danger.

If Luffy plays smart and combines his snakeman with internal haki attacks then he should take it. That would be too fast for BB to keep up with and he doesn't have the durability to take more than a couple of good hits.

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Leaning towards Luffy but Blackbeard has 2 distinct advantages.

1- he can forcefully deactivate Luffy’s gears and possibly Haki if it’s comparable to sea stone.

2- the quake fruit hits harder than Luffy does

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This BB was fighting both Sengoku and Garp at the same time, are we really going to pretend as if Current Luffy is equal to those two?

BB stomps

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@mcu-defender333: youre mistaken Blackbeards durability is off the chart bruh, like Island level

He doesnt get intangibility, and feels more pin but his tolerance is higher due to DF too

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Blackbeard was beaten by a Whitebeard that by all accounts belonged in a coffin, I don't really see how you can say he'd win here, especially since Luffy at this point has injured and evaded an attack from a Yonko who was in a much better condition than Whitebeard was even at the beginning of Marineford.

And there's the fact that Kaido is implied to be stronger than Old Whitebeard to top it all off.

The only saving grace Blackbeard has is Whitebeard's devil fruit, but it matters little when he's slow and not very durable.

Sakazuki was also defeated by WB in the same condition. Surely you don't think Luffy could beat him?

Luffy dodged a generic mace swing from Kaido. Lets not pretend like that puts him over whitebeard in any quantifiable way.

Kaido is not and was not implied to be stronger than WB. All the statements made about Kaido (strongest creature, strongest pirate best at 1v1s) happened after WB's death which makes it unclear as to whether this included WB or not. Hell Big Mom looks better than Kaido right now.

You are massively underrating BB. He almost killed Ace with like 4 generic punches. The same Ace that fought Jinbei for 5 days. While taking additional damage, he got up from a direct attack from Sengoku and Whitebeard. BB cn take away luffy's immunity from blunt attacks with one hand and slam a quake in his face with the other while punching him with massive power.

Luffy knocked Kaido out of his dragon form before. We dont even know if Kaido felt this. as of chapter 1,000 BB wipes the floor with Luffy.

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#14  Edited By Sup3rn0va

@enemybird said:
@sup3rn0va said:

Blackbeard was beaten by a Whitebeard that by all accounts belonged in a coffin, I don't really see how you can say he'd win here, especially since Luffy at this point has injured and evaded an attack from a Yonko who was in a much better condition than Whitebeard was even at the beginning of Marineford.

And there's the fact that Kaido is implied to be stronger than Old Whitebeard to top it all off.

The only saving grace Blackbeard has is Whitebeard's devil fruit, but it matters little when he's slow and not very durable.

Sakazuki was also defeated by WB in the same condition. Surely you don't think Luffy could beat him?

Luffy dodged a generic mace swing from Kaido. Lets not pretend like that puts him over whitebeard in any quantifiable way.

Kaido is not and was not implied to be stronger than WB. All the statements made about Kaido (strongest creature, strongest pirate best at 1v1s) happened after WB's death which makes it unclear as to whether this included WB or not. Hell Big Mom looks better than Kaido right now.

You are massively underrating BB. He almost killed Ace with like 4 generic punches. The same Ace that fought Jinbei for 5 days. While taking additional damage, he got up from a direct attack from Sengoku and Whitebeard. BB cn take away luffy's immunity from blunt attacks with one hand and slam a quake in his face with the other while punching him with massive power.

Luffy knocked Kaido out of his dragon form before. We dont even know if Kaido felt this. as of chapter 1,000 BB wipes the floor with Luffy.

Akainu's defeat and Blackbeard's defeat are completely different, Blackbeard didn't even injure Whitebeard and got completely no diffed, it's also pretty obvious he used the last of his strength to defeat Akainu, lastly he was rage boosted by Ace's death.

It puts him over a Whitebeard that should by all accounts already be dead, far above him in fact.

The Ace novel does actually imply if not outright state that Kaido > Old Beard, it states Whitebeard was the greatest at piracy but in a fight Kaido would win.

Not underestimating Blackbeard, you're vastly overestimating him. Ace's feats are what exactly? Fighting Jinbe and clashing with a Yamato years before the current day? And let's not forget that Ace did decent damage to Blackbeard as well. A Jinbe from years prior to where we're at now in the story, irrelevant. He could if he was fast enough or durable enough to take more than a couple hits, hell, G2 Pre-timeskip Luffy already blitzed him.

Kaido is pretty clearly spitting blood from Luffy's attack and looks like he was on the verge of being KO'd.

Pre-TS Blackbeard wiping the floor with current Luffy is funny when Blackbeard + his entire crew ran away from Akainu

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#15  Edited By Enemybird

@sup3rn0va said:
@enemybird said:
@sup3rn0va said:

Blackbeard was beaten by a Whitebeard that by all accounts belonged in a coffin, I don't really see how you can say he'd win here, especially since Luffy at this point has injured and evaded an attack from a Yonko who was in a much better condition than Whitebeard was even at the beginning of Marineford.

And there's the fact that Kaido is implied to be stronger than Old Whitebeard to top it all off.

The only saving grace Blackbeard has is Whitebeard's devil fruit, but it matters little when he's slow and not very durable.

Sakazuki was also defeated by WB in the same condition. Surely you don't think Luffy could beat him?

Luffy dodged a generic mace swing from Kaido. Lets not pretend like that puts him over whitebeard in any quantifiable way.

Kaido is not and was not implied to be stronger than WB. All the statements made about Kaido (strongest creature, strongest pirate best at 1v1s) happened after WB's death which makes it unclear as to whether this included WB or not. Hell Big Mom looks better than Kaido right now.

You are massively underrating BB. He almost killed Ace with like 4 generic punches. The same Ace that fought Jinbei for 5 days. While taking additional damage, he got up from a direct attack from Sengoku and Whitebeard. BB cn take away luffy's immunity from blunt attacks with one hand and slam a quake in his face with the other while punching him with massive power.

Luffy knocked Kaido out of his dragon form before. We dont even know if Kaido felt this. as of chapter 1,000 BB wipes the floor with Luffy.

Akainu's defeat and Blackbeard's defeat are completely different, Blackbeard didn't even injure Whitebeard and got completely no diffed, it's also pretty obvious he used the last of his strength to defeat Akainu, lastly he was rage boosted by Ace's death.

It puts him over a Whitebeard that should by all accounts already be dead, far above him in fact.

The Ace novel does actually imply if not outright state that Kaido > Old Beard, it states Whitebeard was the greatest at piracy but in a fight Kaido would win.

Not underestimating Blackbeard, you're vastly overestimating him. Ace's feats are what exactly? Fighting Jinbe and clashing with a Yamato years before the current day? And let's not forget that Ace did decent damage to Blackbeard as well. A Jinbe from years prior to where we're at now in the story, irrelevant. He could if he was fast enough or durable enough to take more than a couple hits, hell, G2 Pre-timeskip Luffy already blitzed him.

Kaido is pretty clearly spitting blood from Luffy's attack and looks like he was on the verge of being KO'd.

Pre-TS Blackbeard wiping the floor with current Luffy is funny when Blackbeard + his entire crew ran away from Akainu

WB was above both Sakazuki and BB in his extremely weakened state. You tried to lowball WB by saying he belonged in a coffin, while that's true, he still had enough power to defeat Sakazuki with his brain hanging out. Basically what I am saying is, blackbeard fought WB with enough power to easily defeat an admiral. He was okay after the direct attack. As I mentioned before, he also shrugged off a shockwave from Sengoku while taking more damage.

Luffy dodging that generic mace swing was a more impressive than anything WB used on Blackbeard? I just don't see how especially considering WB defeated the strongest admiral in that state while Kaido hasn't defeated anyone as powerful with a generic mace swing.

Ace has a range advantage on Blackbeard that Luffy does not. Cannot compare his fight with Ace to how things would go with Luffy. Blackbeard nearly killing a commander in a few punches while Luffy has struggled and has yet to defeat a commander or anyone close to that level without running or needing assistance. I mentioned the fight with Jnbei just in case you tried to downplay Ace's endurance nothing else.

Luffy probably wouldnt run from sakazuki, but he didnt run from BM or Kaido and look how that turned out.

Its better to wait and see. Kaido has been clocked several times during this arc. I'm not giving luffy any credit yet. Kaido is likely just fine.

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Blackbeard mid diffs.

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Luffy solos his own verse with "Red Rock"

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Bleackbeard's fat dumb self gets rekted. Deal with it.

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Blackbeard wins

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Luffy rattles him with a red roc

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Marineford Blackbeard still has the best durability feat in all of One Piece, which balances out Luffy being able to statue him on paper.

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@naronu said:

This BB was fighting both Sengoku and Garp at the same time, are we really going to pretend as if Current Luffy is equal to those two?

BB stomps

Iirc BB only fought Sengoku, Garp jumped and knocked Burgess down with one hit. And then when Shanks appeared. he ran like a b*tch. Do you want to say Shanks> Garp and Sengoku? And also later, he ran away again when he saw Akainu approaching them. Akainu> Garp and Sengoku too?

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Bump

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Didn't MF BB get pimp slapped by everyone on the field? Luffy wins this.

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Luffy now stomps with the recent chapter.

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@krisbishop: didn't he match Sengoku's full budha shockwave punch with tremor fruit and then challenge both Sengoku and Old Garp?

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@keyrushmeister: I don't recall that happening. IIRC he got blasted by Sengoku, then he did some quakes around Marineford to show off his powers, but never fought Sengoku directly. Then the next time we see him, he chose to run from Shanks.