Wally West vs Odin Force Thor ~ Feats Only/No Statements ~

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#1  Edited By pr0d1gy

Odin Force Thor

  • Will be in Warrior's Madness & will wear the Belt of Stregth.

Wally West

  • Will be blood-lusted.

Rules

  • No phasing.
  • No speculation or statements that aren't shown to be true.
  • Feats only.
  • Anything else goes.
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Well, let's see what the Wally West fans can pull from their ass when it's a logical debate.

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This thing again?? WHY????

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#5  Edited By pr0d1gy

This thing again?? WHY????

It's a logical, never before done battle.

Please participate or don't post a comment.

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Hmm... Interesting thread

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Definitely Thor

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@pr0d1gy: Wally has stolen speed from molecules, from superhumans and from the Earth. Wally has also slowed down the cerebral cortex causing people to pass out. Wally can dump people in the speed force. Going by feats, Odin has no resistance to those attacks.

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Speed steal, IMP, Speed Force Dump.

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#14  Edited By Overmonitor

@pr0d1gy: I read Old King Thor with Thor Force (same thing as Odin Force) and Thor was in the middle of battle on Earth with Galactus, he proceeded to travel to the edge of the universe to retrieve the necrosword and then back to Earth again in the middle of the battle. I also recall him blasting Gorr lightyears away in only seconds, meaning Gorr is travelling over 30,000,000 times the speed of light.

Thor w Odin Force absolutely could battle Wally effectively IMO, he has the speed.

Also please don't tell people not to comment, that's what the site is for, you're being rude.

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@pr0d1gy: I read Old King Thor with Thor Force (same thing as Odin Force) and Thor was in the middle of battle on Earth with Galactus, he proceeded to travel to the edge of the universe to retrieve the necrosword and then back to Earth again in the middle of the battle. I also recall him blasting Gorr lightyears away in only seconds, meaning Gorr is travelling over 30,000,000 times the speed of light.

Thor w Odin Force absolutely could battle Wally effectively IMO, he has the speed.

^PiS warning
^PiS warning

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The Odinforce in general is greater than Flash. Odin had better feats, but even Thor is too much

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In Comic Vine, Wally West wins, in a comic book, Odin Force Thor with Warrior´s Madness with the belt of strength stomps.....just with the Odin Force, Thor took over the Earth and defeated every single hero, not to mention he can completely stop time, now add the warrior´s madness and the belt of strength to make him 20 times stronger, realistically this version of Thor should win without much problem, he´s on skyfather level.......but using Comic Vine logic wich consists in speed >>>>>>>>>>>everything else, Wally wins.

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Odinforce Thor stomps.

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FlasH speed steal imp speed force dump

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Comicvine Speed force logic, which is horrible to begin with, doesn't work on Skyfathers, just like it doesn't work on Galactus, Eternity, LT, etc. They are in a different league.

Thor with the Odinforce would wreck. He once made himself as big as a solar system, crushed a planet by accidentally touching it, and palmed the sun. The sun is 1.3 million times the size of earth, just to get an idea of it's size.

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@midnightdragon18: That logic doesnt apply to people on this caliber. Or do you believe that? Are you one of the people who think Flash can beat LT?

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#23  Edited By midnightdragon18

@betarayz8317: this is about thor,not LT.

Speed steal imp

GG

flash was about to break the anti monitor's armour. Oh and btw anti monitor >>> odin.

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#24  Edited By Truth_Teller

why no phasing? thats a weird rule.

Either way Wally would use speed steal and win. if thor has anti speed steal feats then he wins.

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Provide a scan of Wally West using the speed force on someone on Skyfather level.

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@pr0d1gy: provide a scan of a skyfather resisting speed steal.

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@pr0d1gy said:

Provide a scan of Wally West using the speed force on someone on Skyfather level.

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why no phasing? thats a weird rule.

Either way Wally would use speed steal and win. if thor has anti speed steal feats then he wins.

Speed Force only exists in DC, why the hell would Thor have feats resisting it? Why don't you show us Wally showing resistance to Odin Force time manipulation. Don't care about other time manipulation, only Odin-Force specific. Waiting for scan.

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#30  Edited By BetaRayz8317

@midnightdragon18: This is about a Skyfather, who is above Flash.

Speed steal and IMP's are nothing here.

That is PIS plus there were circumstances that surround that.

Odinforce users (and below) have stopped time, reversed it, caused multiversal destruction, destroyed multiple galaxies in a fight, beat a being that was the size of a Galaxy (and was apparently tapping in the real Infinity), Erased entire dimensions (galaxies could be seen on panel inside some of these dimensions), and even erased Heaven from the 616 timeline.

Please show me Flash doing anything on the level of of the Odinforce. Cracking the anti monitor's armour is PIS, and it wouldn't mean anything if it wasn't. Sentry, has beaten a multiversal being, but this doesn't make him multiversal. Same applies here my friend.

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Odinforce stomps WW and trolls.

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here Wally's answer guys

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@truth_teller said:

why no phasing? thats a weird rule.

Either way Wally would use speed steal and win. if thor has anti speed steal feats then he wins.

Speed Force only exists in DC, why the hell would Thor have feats resisting it? Why don't you show us Wally showing resistance to Odin Force time manipulation. Don't care about other time manipulation, only Odin-Force specific. Waiting for scan.

To answer your first sentence, then that means that Thor loses sine he has no feats showing his resistance to it and the OP says feats only. As for your second sentence, you'd have to show that Thor can manipulate time before Wally performs his attack. So I'll show you the scan you want as soon as it becomes relevant. Do you understand what I'm saying?

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thor wins no effort

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#38  Edited By Overmonitor

@dorukesin1: Who is the highest tier Wally has successfully stolen speed from?

Also, why didn't he just do that to Zoom or the Black Racer if it is so easy for him to speed steal from a being on that level?

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speed steal doesnt work. inconsistent and no one even close to OF thor level. Been tagged by slower and lost to weaker. Odin Force is far above the 5th most impressive justice leaguer

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#40  Edited By dorukesin1

@overmonitor said:

@dorukesin1: Who is the highest tier Wally has successfully stolen speed from?

Also, why didn't he just do that to Zoom or the Black Racer if it is so easy for him to speed steal from a being on that level?

Because they're immune to speed steal and Thor's not :D

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@rpgesus said:

speed steal doesnt work. inconsistent and no one even close to OF thor level. Been tagged by slower and lost to weaker. Odin Force is far above the 5th most impressive justice leaguer

inconsistent ? I could show you plenty of speed steal feats

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@dorukesin1: how many like 5 in the entirety of the characters life? and anyone even half of Odin Force thor?

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What does it matter how strong Odin force thor is? Goku will almost always lose against reality warper who can blink him out of existence becuase he doeasnt have any feats against reality warping......

Unless you all can prove that thor can react and prevent flash from ever using speed steal then this match is a spite. He gets his speed stolen, beaten to a pulp by the punches that harmed even the anti monitor and is then dumped to the end of time for a front row seat of the next big bang....

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@rpgesus said:

@dorukesin1: how many like 5 in the entirety of the characters life? and anyone even half of Odin Force thor?

more than 5 and 5 isn't inconsistent for that kind of power.Because it's called good story telling. Nobody wants to see a book where their hero isn't challenged at all

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@dorukesin1: so 6 times on people no where near thor, let alone odin force....? nice

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@rpgesus said:

@dorukesin1: so 6 times on people no where near thor, let alone odin force....? nice

:D dude it isn't about a power scale by your logic Wally couldn't steal Superman's speed because immm he's tough

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This thread is laughable, it's obvious you created it out of butthurt, with the stops, flash still wins, speed steal, IMP, speed force are still affective,

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@dorukesin1: not saying you specifically but someone earlier said thor loses because he DOESNT have speed steal resistance feats. how is that any different than making you prove flash could speed steal high durability/energy manipulator

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#50  Edited By XioKenji

@rpgesus said:

@dorukesin1: so 6 times on people no where near thor, let alone odin force....? nice

Wasn't AM like... skyfather tier(during the crisis)? and flashed was able to suck his speed?