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#1  Edited By Victoryz

I don’t give a FUCK if this isn’t a battle why does vs wiki have Ichigo as universal+ same tier as goku 😂

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#3  Edited By Wushu59

Vs Battle Wiki has always been a joke

Not surprised

One of the moderator must be a massive Bleach fan

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@victoryz: it’s because most bleach fans are retards who won’t let shit go

manga been over since 2016 and they STILL keep trying to upgrade them

In 2016 they had them at multi continent level. 4-5 years later universe level.

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@victoryz said:

I don’t give a FUCK if this isn’t a battle why does vs wiki have Ichigo as universal+ same tier as goku 😂

Looks like it's because of SK. Because: SK created SS and Hueco Mundo and Human World or something like that I guess.

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Damage who normally disagrees entirely with CRTs for some reason decided universal bleach looked good basically he thinks Star level naruto is a outlier (which I am fine with) when there are multiple unscalable power gaps but thinks Universal bleach (with it having clear cut multipliers) is fine

by the way in 2 or 3 years I am pretty sure they will be accepting 5D Aizen and 6D Ichigo

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They have Kratos at multiversal lmfao...who would ever take them seriously.

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They have Kratos at multiversal lmfao...who would ever take them seriously.

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It’s because yhwach was gonna destroy realms that were stated infinite or something

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#11  Edited By diydeath

It's a little odd. The reasoning is sound until you get to the false equivalency aspect.

So we know that via the SK powers, the SK and Yhwach were both capable of rewriting reality for no less than 3 separate worlds (given that each one has it's own set of stars we can either draw 1 of 2 conclusions; each is a different dimension or they're different points in the same universe. Personally I'll go with dimensions due to the context of the entire freaking series, lol). It deals with dimensions as a general theme and space is only brought up...once? In the Gremmy vs Kenpachi fight where it was used as an attack.

But as we know via nobody dying from SK Yhwach's spiritual pressure such as Orihime or Renji nor did anyone have any body parts vaped like when the noname Shinigami got too close to Aizen indicates that SK Yhwach didn't have so much spiritual pressure as to do what Aizen was doing to normal Shinigami.

With that information on the gap between Orihime and Yhwach we can logically deduce that the SK's powers (the thing which makes him universal) are probably not based on spiritual pressure and that you can't scale Ichigo to Yhwach because we have no baseline for Yhwach beyond knowing he's not powerful enough to passively vape mid tiers who got some RG TLC.

TL;DR Ichigo isn't universal. Yhwach is, SK is but that's due to their very specific powerset.

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Context matters

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Yhwach is not Universal, if hes universal then Yama is universal

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#15  Edited By diydeath

@notthegodmadara said:

Yhwach is not Universal, if hes universal then Yama is universal

Yhwach was reshaping 3 different dimensions but that was after he took the Soul King's power - and it's pretty much established at this point that the SK's power is universal.

That much is valid but scaling everyone to the SK's power is dumb. The universe was completely helpless and needed a plot arrow+4 other people to pull off a W for the protagonists...and even then it wasn't a complete win...

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A couple of One Piece’s top tier characters also went from being country to mountain level too.

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@diydeath said:
@notthegodmadara said:

Yhwach is not Universal, if hes universal then Yama is universal

Yhwach was reshaping 3 different dimensions but that was after he took the Soul King's power - and it's pretty much established at this point that the SK's power is universal.

That much is valid but scaling everyone to the SK's power is dumb. The universe was completely helpless and needed a plot arrow+4 other people to pull off a W for the protagonists...and even then it wasn't a complete win...

1. Soul society is only planet sized and Hueco mundo is much smaller

2. Merging dimensions is a creation hax and its counted towards ap

3. The SK Power Yhwach absorbed was from a super weak SK, Not Prime SK, and even Prime SK isnt Universal only solar system level

4. If Yhwach is Universal then you accept Universal Yammamoto

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Rich coming from this website. Ya’ll think Gilgamesh is somehow nigh omnipotent lmao

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#19  Edited By Bink_69

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cu8ywQwSxvcd9228Mpruf3OPkRbLrn4lxSX0MLYRSkg/edit

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-god-tiers-for-real-this-time.110861/

So apparently one of the mods looked into a few Bleach statements, then decided the new rankings for the God Tiers. Some of the statements in question were a bit vague imo, but I recommend looking into the doc. Obviously I think universal Ichigo is just plain insanity.

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I knew 2021 was too peaceful to be true. All of sudden Ichigo can soul crush MUI Goku, like wut?

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@nam6931 said:

I knew 2021 was too peaceful to be true. All of sudden Ichigo can soul crush MUI Goku, like wut?

Their Yhwach can soul crush Alien X passively.

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@multiversalsoul said:

Rich coming from this website. Ya’ll think Gilgamesh is somehow nigh omnipotent lmao

Godgate thinks he's beyond omnipotent and fiction

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@bink_69 said:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cu8ywQwSxvcd9228Mpruf3OPkRbLrn4lxSX0MLYRSkg/edit

https://vsbattles.com/threads/bleach-god-tiers-for-real-this-time.110861/

So apparently one of the mods looked into a few Bleach statements, then decided the new rankings for the God Tiers. Some of the statements in question were a bit vague imo, but I recommend looking into the doc. Obviously I think universal Ichigo is just plain insanity.

That's a lot more solid than I thought it would be and follows a logical, ordered approach using each previous point to support the next without calc stacking. My only problem is that if Ichigo and Aizen and universal...they sure as hell don't show it with feats. This is based entirely on the assumption that the SK's passive spiritual energy is equal to the spiritual energy he uses to keep the universe(s) whole and while that's fairly reasonable there's still room for doubt. Not much but there's a bit.

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Bleach’s cosmology is based on Buddhist teachings,

Don't know if that's true or not lol

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@kek_: Just saw the thread lol.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/alien-x-vs-yhwach.109668/

These guys are dead serious about it, damn.

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@nam6931 said:

@kek_: Just saw the thread lol.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/alien-x-vs-yhwach.109668/

These guys are dead serious about it, damn.

And the primary argument? Soul crush GG Alien X lol.

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@cosmic_demon: it’s definitely true bleach has some heavy ties with Buddhist teachings and themes.

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Probably got changed by some fodder Bleach fan whos mad Gojo solos their fav verse

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Yes! Now I can finally do my Ichigo vs Seiya battle thread!

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^ Oh no

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@bink_69: @nam6931: @notthegodmadara:

For all you downplayers in cfyow its stated gremmy imagined and created outer space twice. Outer space litteraly means universe

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This is undeniable proof even none god tiers have universal feats

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#34  Edited By Kemono_dono
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@kemono_dono: This thread clearly summoned him from the depths of hell.

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@undre: ichigo isnt gremmy and needed help to beat yahwach so he doesnt scale to him. vs battle making him universal is just as bad as star level naruto because he "beat" kaguya

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@ob1toe: kenpachi scales below ichigo who beat gremmy and no ichigo legit scales to yhwach in ap. Yhwach was just too haxed for him.

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#39  Edited By Wanderez

Gremmy creating Galaxy Room doesn't scale to his stats, it's reality warping. However, it does support universal Soul King and Yhwach, considering Gremmy is the brain of the Soul King and is the second strongest sternritter after Yhwach.

But yeah, Ichigo and Aizen have no place in the low 2-C tier.

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@undre said:

@bink_69: @nam6931: @notthegodmadara:

For all you downplayers in cfyow its stated gremmy imagined and created outer space twice. Outer space litteraly means universe

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This is undeniable proof even none god tiers have universal feats

Gojo still murders the verse

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#42  Edited By Undre

@wanderez: down play much. Gremmy could image a universe but couldnt imagine kenpachis power that would put kenpachi above uni.

Gg

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#44  Edited By Wanderez

@undre:

He could imagine Kenpachi's powers, it's just that he forgot to strengthen his body in order to contain that power. The novels make it rather clear.

but couldnt imagine kenpachis power

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He clearly could.

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Lmao Look at the other chracters in tier 2. How tf is ichigo beating knull, superboy prime, Goku, the spectre, beerus etc. I guarentee if ichigo was put against any of the other chracters in that tier on vs battle wiki the only argument people who whined for ichigo to be placed on that tier would have is "SoUl CRUsH"

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VSB has been wanking everything for a long time already.

MFTL Universal Bleach, Multiversal Kratos, almost everyone in Fate is Multiversal, Solar System Level Dark Souls etc.

Nothing new.

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Orihime has become universe level+ too....

All those people saying Orihime couldn’t solo One Piece, take a big fat L.

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@greythejiren: Yet they downplay comics. Skyfathers, who should be 1A on their scale after Old King Thor arc are only 2C... same tier as Aizen and Orihime !

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Lmao fodderhime is now 2c absolute Nonsense wank website. you better give this no name shinobi country level because he rushed at madara with a kunai now