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#1 Posted by JasonV80 (243 posts) - - Show Bio

Movie versions of the characters, fight to "death" (don't worry about the Horcruxes). Voldemort has his wand and ten minutes of prep time. Bumblebee has the weapons he uses in the Bumblebee movie.

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#2 Posted by Pipxeroth (9052 posts) - - Show Bio

What is Voldemort supposed to do exactly? Bee just shoots him

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#3 Posted by last0fth3risen (372 posts) - - Show Bio

I cannot imagine Voldemort having trouble with a giant robot, especially with prep.

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#4 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16315 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep Voldemort should win as long as he’s careful. He is more mobile, has more fire power, more versatility, he basically just loses when it comes to durability.

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#5 Posted by LPercepts (532 posts) - - Show Bio

Does the Killing Curse work on sentient machines? Apart from that, Voldemort should have enough magic flexibility to counteract Bumblebee, in my opinion at least.

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#6 Posted by last0fth3risen (372 posts) - - Show Bio

@lpercepts: If they are truly living beings, not just AI then yes, the Killing Curse should work.

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#7 Posted by Richubs (3378 posts) - - Show Bio

The killing curse is supposed to work on living beings. There are no exceptions.

And it's not as if Bumblebee is so damn OP that he would be impervious to the curse so it's possible he dies.

Or Voldemort can use Imperio on him and make him blow his own head out or various other things.

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#8 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2824 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldemort

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#10 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2824 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnnyz256: How is that an NLF? Maybe if Bumblebee was marginally stronger than Voldemort, but he isn't.

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#11 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sort of wondering how Voldemort counters Bee just shooting him repeatedly

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#12 Edited by last0fth3risen (372 posts) - - Show Bio

@hey_thatsmildlyadequate: By apparition, disillusionment charms, shields, flight... Or simply by not standing directly in front of him.

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#13 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

@last0fth3risen: disarming a canon built into Bee's arm? But what exactly does he do once Bee starts shooting. Does he even have the reactions or durability to counter?

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#14 Posted by last0fth3risen (372 posts) - - Show Bio

@hey_thatsmildlyadequate: Disillusionment = Invisibility. He can also probably transfigure the cannon, or any other part of Bumblebee, if he can't do him whole. Voldemort isn't gonna just stand there and get shot.

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#15 Posted by AlexTheBoss (16315 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sort of wondering how Voldemort counters Bee just shooting him repeatedly

What's Bee's counter to this?

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#16 Edited by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

@last0fth3risen: but my question is does he actually have a counter to getting shot. If he can't even react to the blaster fire then the magic isn't going to help him much, and as far as I know he has normal human durability so he's getting one shot if these blasters connect

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#17 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: I don't know considering I'm not even really sure what's happening

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#19 Posted by LJayG (851 posts) - - Show Bio

I really didn't find bumblebee impressive in the bumblebee movie. The end fight tho was a good showing of skill though, plus that helicopter catch. If bee is close enough he punts Voldemort. If its ranged battle Bumblebee loses right off the bat.

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#20 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1437 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: well ig Bee could potentially dodge it assuming it isn't aoe but it's not going to end well for him if it connects

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#21 Posted by Helloman (26947 posts) - - Show Bio

Bumblebee wins.

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#22 Posted by geekryan (3760 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldemort absolutely destroys....especially with prep

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#23 Posted by last0fth3risen (372 posts) - - Show Bio

@hey_thatsmildlyadequate: Normal humans have reacted to transformers before. Voldemort is a teleporter. He can do vurtually anything to his immediate surroundings, and is much more likely to attack first. I see no reason why he shouldn't win here.

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#24 Edited by Adm1ralSnackbar (246 posts) - - Show Bio

Bumblebee shoots him

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#25 Posted by StormShadow_X (16215 posts) - - Show Bio

Bee shoots

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#26 Posted by ReaperDewpider (102 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, I think this battle really does come down to range. Voldemort should be able to win at range with Killing Curse, but Bumblebee owns him if they have to go hand-to-hand.

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#27 Edited by InvadedTBD (925 posts) - - Show Bio

Would Avada Kedavra work on a transformer?

There is no proof it would, wouldn't that be a NLF. If not please help me understand why.

I think Bumblebee takes it til proven otherwise.

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#28 Posted by ReaperDewpider (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@invadedtbd: Well, people are saying it does because it is supposed to work on all living things including humans and animals. I am pretty sure Transformers count as "living things".

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#29 Edited by InvadedTBD (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaperdewpider: yeah but that counts for all living things in the HPverse, it doesn't translate to all the living things in any universe.

You understand what I'm saying.

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#30 Posted by ReaperDewpider (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@invadedtbd: Sure, but that doesn't mean the other people discussing this do.

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#31 Posted by InvadedTBD (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaperdewpider: if they want to debate it they can just tag me but til then Bumblebee wins, because right now Avada Kedavra is falling in to the NLF category.

Thanks for the clarification, dude.

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#32 Posted by ReaperDewpider (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@invadedtbd: Not necessarily, since Avada Kedavra is hardly the only thing Voldemort has, so his other arsenal of magic could very well tilt things in his favor.

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#33 Posted by InvadedTBD (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaperdewpider: very true he does have a wide array of spells he can use but most of the people here who thinks he wins are saying he wins by the killing curse.

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#34 Posted by PanzerX (248 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldemort gets shot.

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#36 Posted by ReaperDewpider (102 posts) - - Show Bio

@invadedtbd: Well, I'm not going to call things solely on the Killing Curse, that's all. I just think it is disingenuous to say someone wins or loses just on the basis of one attack/tactic alone. I try to consider the whole arsenal first.

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#37 Edited by InvadedTBD (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@reaperdewpider: that is understandable and respectable and like I said I can be persuaded that Voldemort wins.

What other spell does he have that you think can put down Bumblebee?

Edit: I'm also sure Avada Kedavra can definitely hurt Bumblebee just not so sure it would flat out kill him.

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#38 Posted by FullMetalEmprah (3870 posts) - - Show Bio

Going with Voldemort, he has apparition to avoid being shot with and his wide arsenal of spells should secure him the win.

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#39 Posted by last0fth3risen (372 posts) - - Show Bio

@invadedtbd: That's the thing though: Avada Kedavra doesn't hurt people. It renders them lifeless, with no bodily harm. It kills by supernatural means, not through physical damage. Transformers are not actually robots, they are living aliens with no known resistance to magic. Saying that AK will put them down doesn't fall into NLF territory. It's an entirely reasonable assumption.

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#40 Edited by SwordofDamocles (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Voldemort have a lot and when i say a lot is a LOT of way to slaughter Bumblebee here.

If Voldemort get cocky and do not prepare himself and just wait for a face-face battle Bumblebee can give him some trouble, but i can see Voldemort getting the upper hand right away.

Even in pure firepower Voldemort can arguably overpower Bumblebee.

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@invadedtbd: That's the thing though: Avada Kedavra doesn't hurt people. It renders them lifeless, with no bodily harm. It kills by supernatural means, not through physical damage. Transformers are not actually robots, they are living aliens with no known resistance to magic. Saying that AK will put them down doesn't fall into NLF territory. It's an entirely reasonable assumption.

+1 Avada should work in Transformers.

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#41 Posted by Bayman007 (1112 posts) - - Show Bio

We see the use of spell like Piertotum locomoto animate objects, i think even the Imperius Curse would give voldermort control over bumblebee. Can't see B winning this one.