Movie versions of the characters, fight to "death" (don't worry about the Horcruxes). Voldemort has his wand and ten minutes of prep time. Bumblebee has the weapons he uses in the Bumblebee movie.
With prep Voldemort should win as long as he’s careful. He is more mobile, has more fire power, more versatility, he basically just loses when it comes to durability.
Does the Killing Curse work on sentient machines? Apart from that, Voldemort should have enough magic flexibility to counteract Bumblebee, in my opinion at least.
@last0fth3risen: disarming a canon built into Bee's arm? But what exactly does he do once Bee starts shooting. Does he even have the reactions or durability to counter?
@hey_thatsmildlyadequate: Disillusionment = Invisibility. He can also probably transfigure the cannon, or any other part of Bumblebee, if he can't do him whole. Voldemort isn't gonna just stand there and get shot.
@last0fth3risen: but my question is does he actually have a counter to getting shot. If he can't even react to the blaster fire then the magic isn't going to help him much, and as far as I know he has normal human durability so he's getting one shot if these blasters connect
I really didn't find bumblebee impressive in the bumblebee movie. The end fight tho was a good showing of skill though, plus that helicopter catch. If bee is close enough he punts Voldemort. If its ranged battle Bumblebee loses right off the bat.
@hey_thatsmildlyadequate: Normal humans have reacted to transformers before. Voldemort is a teleporter. He can do vurtually anything to his immediate surroundings, and is much more likely to attack first. I see no reason why he shouldn't win here.
Yeah, I think this battle really does come down to range. Voldemort should be able to win at range with Killing Curse, but Bumblebee owns him if they have to go hand-to-hand.
@invadedtbd: Well, people are saying it does because it is supposed to work on all living things including humans and animals. I am pretty sure Transformers count as "living things".
@reaperdewpider: if they want to debate it they can just tag me but til then Bumblebee wins, because right now Avada Kedavra is falling in to the NLF category.
@invadedtbd: Not necessarily, since Avada Kedavra is hardly the only thing Voldemort has, so his other arsenal of magic could very well tilt things in his favor.
@reaperdewpider: very true he does have a wide array of spells he can use but most of the people here who thinks he wins are saying he wins by the killing curse.
@invadedtbd: Well, I'm not going to call things solely on the Killing Curse, that's all. I just think it is disingenuous to say someone wins or loses just on the basis of one attack/tactic alone. I try to consider the whole arsenal first.
@invadedtbd: That's the thing though: Avada Kedavra doesn't hurt people. It renders them lifeless, with no bodily harm. It kills by supernatural means, not through physical damage. Transformers are not actually robots, they are living aliens with no known resistance to magic. Saying that AK will put them down doesn't fall into NLF territory. It's an entirely reasonable assumption.
Voldemort have a lot and when i say a lot is a LOT of way to slaughter Bumblebee here.
If Voldemort get cocky and do not prepare himself and just wait for a face-face battle Bumblebee can give him some trouble, but i can see Voldemort getting the upper hand right away.
Even in pure firepower Voldemort can arguably overpower Bumblebee.
@invadedtbd: That's the thing though: Avada Kedavra doesn't hurt people. It renders them lifeless, with no bodily harm. It kills by supernatural means, not through physical damage. Transformers are not actually robots, they are living aliens with no known resistance to magic. Saying that AK will put them down doesn't fall into NLF territory. It's an entirely reasonable assumption.
We see the use of spell like Piertotum locomoto animate objects, i think even the Imperius Curse would give voldermort control over bumblebee. Can't see B winning this one.
@invadedtbd: That's the thing though: Avada Kedavra doesn't hurt people. It renders them lifeless, with no bodily harm. It kills by supernatural means, not through physical damage. Transformers are not actually robots, they are living aliens with no known resistance to magic. Saying that AK will put them down doesn't fall into NLF territory. It's an entirely reasonable assumption.
Then how do you survive the Killing Curse if you are a living thing, barring anything in-universe to Harry Potter such as love/sacrificial protection or something high up the power scale like reality warping?
@lpercepts: Well, I doubt it would work against immortals (it didn't kill Voldemort with his horcruxes). But regular living things, like humans, aliens, mutants, most metas, and the like should all be fare game.
@last0fth3risen: It seems like you need a "soul" in order to be affected by the Killing Curse. What if a character doesn't have one or the rules of his franchise precludes "souls" as a concept as they are in HP from existing? Some franchises equate "souls" with "creativity" or treat it as the same entity as the mind. Clearly, for characters in those franchises, "souls" do not exist in any conventional sense as they might in how many franchises and real life religions interpret them.
But is he,really? The transformers never blitzed anyone and regular humans have ducked and dodged away from their guns. BB raises his gun toward Voldy and "pop" he's not there.
@therealvalkyrie: One could argue that HP wizards have greater reflexes than most normal humans due to how easily they react and adjust to various types of magic thrown their way. Especially masters like Voldemort.
Movie transformers, to my knowledge, don't have blitzing speed.
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