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#1 Posted by Gilateen (4292 posts) - - Show Bio

•VL Ichigo(Ulquiorra Fight)

•In Character

•No Soul Crush

•Katakuri can see Ichigo

•Location: Mirror World

•Starting distance: 40ft

•Win By DEATH

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#2 Edited by FriesKetchup70 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

The one with Future sight, better physicals, not braindead and kept up with Snakeman Luffy and outpaced him numerous times during the fight (Granted they were both weakened due to fatigue and having holes blown through their torsos)

VL Ichigo's cero will be the only problem for Katakuri to deal with

Katakuri wins 7/10 imo

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#3 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18427 posts) - - Show Bio

If Katakuri is able to consistently dodge Ichigo's ceros, he might be able to eventually beat Ichigo down in close quarters combat, but one slip up would lead to him being incinerated.

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#4 Posted by Yray (592 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri takes it

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#5 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

If Katakuri is able to consistently dodge Ichigo's ceros, he might be able to eventually beat Ichigo down in close quarters combat, but one slip up would lead to him being incinerated.

Agree with this pretty much, if Katakuri is hit by a Cero he gets vaporized regardless of his CoO, he's never shown to reform from nothing.

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#6 Edited by Yray (592 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: feats for cero vaporising anything more durable than Katakuri?

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#7 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@yray said:

@limitlesssigil: feats for cero vaporising anything more durable than Katakuri?

Energy resistance feats for Katakuri? Oh yes, none. Nice try though.

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#8 Posted by weebbicboi (2205 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichigo one shots

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#9 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3855 posts) - - Show Bio

Basically what Alex said. This depends on if Katakuri can consistently dodge Ichigo's ceros with future sight and/or mochi. If he can, then he wins via better physicals. If not, Ichigo vapes.

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#10 Posted by Eobard21 (6390 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably IChi

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#11 Posted by shirso (4633 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri is far faster, stronger, has Future Sight and his mochi allows him to restrain VL and then unload on him.

He wins

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#12 Posted by FriesKetchup70 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso: completely forgot about awakening.

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#13 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso said:

Katakuri is far faster,

Debatable

stronger,

Physically yes

has Future Sight and his mochi allows him to restrain VL

Katakuri isn't restraining him with Mochi when Ichigo's Cero's will melt it like butter.

and then unload on him.

Katakuri gets a load of Cero's

He wins

He loses

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#14 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4967 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichigo’s faster and no OP character currently has the energy durability feats to suggest they would survive a Cero from Ichigo.

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#15 Posted by shirso (4633 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil:

Katakuri is far faster,

Debatable

Not at all, the guy blitzed G4 Boundman when even base Luffy is a micro second timer. He is comfortably quad machs.

stronger,

Physically yes

By a lot, VL really doesn't have the blunt durability to tank more than a few of Katakuri's hits. And with Future Sight Katakuri will know to start with his strongest hits and not give VL any chance to recover.

has Future Sight and his mochi allows him to restrain VL

Katakuri isn't restraining him with Mochi when Ichigo's Cero's will melt it like butter.

Eh Katakuri casually matched Luffy's Red Hawk which has some pretty good heat feats of its own, like getting ignited at 1000's of metres below sea level. Not too sure VL's cero has as good heat feats. At the very least it gives him an opening.

and then unload on him.

Katakuri gets a load of Cero's

Well Katakuri would put VL down with a few power mochi hits as well, so I will go with the one that is quantifiably faster and can see 5 seconds into the future.

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#16 Edited by Consciouskeeper (2576 posts) - - Show Bio

"Energy" in bleach does not vaporize its more of a blunt impact similar to Cyclops optic blast in X-Men comics , So energy durability feats not needed.

Anyway katakuri slaughters, he is way to fast do this is a stomp.

Katakuri is:

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#17 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso said:

@limitlesssigil:

Katakuri is far faster,

Debatable

Not at all, the guy blitzed G4 Boundman when even base Luffy is a micro second timer. He is comfortably quad machs.

I can scale too, Hichigo blitzed Ulquiorra who blitzed Masked Ichigo who's faster than Bankai Ichigo who reacted to Buto Renjin.

stronger,

Physically yes

By a lot, VL really doesn't have the blunt durability to tank more than a few of Katakuri's hits. And with Future Sight Katakuri will know to start with his strongest hits and not give VL any chance to recover.

No... Katakuri's future sight allows him to see seconds into the future if that, there's no way that would tell him VL is weak to blunt attacks, regardless Katakuri can't take even one Cero let alone a few.

has Future Sight and his mochi allows him to restrain VL

Katakuri isn't restraining him with Mochi when Ichigo's Cero's will melt it like butter.

Eh Katakuri casually matched Luffy's Red Hawk which has some pretty good heat feats of its own, like getting ignited at 1000's of metres below sea level. Not too sure VL's cero has as good heat feats. At the very least it gives him an opening.

Just reread the fight, this never happened in the Manga as far as I can tell.

and then unload on him.

Katakuri gets a load of Cero's

Well Katakuri would put VL down with a few power mochi hits as well, so I will go with the one that is quantifiably faster and can see 5 seconds into the future.

Again, him being faster is debatable, and one Cero completely vapes Katakuri.

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#18 Posted by FaradaySloth (10594 posts) - - Show Bio

40 Feet? Eh...could see Katakuri pummeling Ichigo at the start with is Future sight. However, one cero and Katakuri is dead.

I lean more towards the former though.

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#19 Posted by FriesKetchup70 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil:

Not at all, the guy blitzed G4 Boundman when even base Luffy is a micro second timer. He is comfortably quad machs.

I can scale too, Hichigo blitzed Ulquiorra who blitzed Masked Ichigo who's faster than "Bankai Ichigo who reacted to Buto Renjin."

I'll stop you right there, that is backwards scaling at its finest seeing how "that" Ichigo was more powerful than the Ichigo that fought Ulquiorra.

Eh Katakuri casually matched Luffy's Red Hawk which has some pretty good heat feats of its own, like getting ignited at 1000's of metres below sea level. Not too sure VL's cero has as good heat feats. At the very least it gives him an opening.

Just reread the fight, this never happened in the Manga as far as I can tell.

I'm sure he'll go over this as well but he's referring to this scan:

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#20 Posted by shirso (4633 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil:

I can scale too, Hichigo blitzed Ulquiorra who blitzed Masked Ichigo who's faster than Bankai Ichigo who reacted to Buto Renjin.

Except Katakuri doesn't rely on multiple layers of stacking and back scaling to put him at those levels of speed. And unlike Ichigo who relies on a Databook and statements, even base Luffy has a solidly quantifiable on panel feat that makes him a micro second timer. Katakuri was casually blitzing G4 Luffy

No... Katakuri's future sight allows him to see seconds into the future if that, there's no way that would tell him VL is weak to blunt attacks, regardless Katakuri can't take even one Cero let alone a few.

He will see VL firing a cero and not give him a chance to use it if he thinks he can't tank or dodge it.

Just reread the fight, this never happened in the Manga as far as I can tell.

It did

Again, him being faster is debatable, and one Cero completely vapes Katakuri.

It isn't and Future Sight gives him a huge edge in speed as well. Katakuri casually hits harder than Luffy's G3 Elephant Gun, he would put VL down in 2-3 hits at worst and that's being generous since VL has no blunt durability feats anywhere near that level.

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#21 Edited by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@friesketchup70 said:

@limitlesssigil:

Not at all, the guy blitzed G4 Boundman when even base Luffy is a micro second timer. He is comfortably quad machs.

I can scale too, Hichigo blitzed Ulquiorra who blitzed Masked Ichigo who's faster than "Bankai Ichigo who reacted to Buto Renjin."

I'll stop you right there, that is backwards scaling at its finest seeing how "that" Ichigo was more powerful than the Ichigo that fought Ulquiorra.

Proof of this? Even if this were true, the amount of which he got stronger doesn't make up the difference from not having his mask on.

Eh Katakuri casually matched Luffy's Red Hawk which has some pretty good heat feats of its own, like getting ignited at 1000's of metres below sea level. Not too sure VL's cero has as good heat feats. At the very least it gives him an opening.

Just reread the fight, this never happened in the Manga as far as I can tell.

I'm sure he'll go over this as well but he's referring to this scan:

Fair enough, was looking through their fight. Anyway, that was with CoA around the Mochi, and I don't recall Red Hawk ever being stated to cause heat damage, whereas a Cero's explosion clearly does.

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#22 Posted by LimitlessSigil (4616 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso said:

@limitlesssigil:

I can scale too, Hichigo blitzed Ulquiorra who blitzed Masked Ichigo who's faster than Bankai Ichigo who reacted to Buto Renjin.

Except Katakuri doesn't rely on multiple layers of stacking and back scaling to put him at those levels of speed. And unlike Ichigo who relies on a Databook and statements, even base Luffy has a solidly quantifiable on panel feat that makes him a micro second timer. Katakuri was casually blitzing G4 Luffy

G4 Luffy's speed is entirely calculated through scaling, he has 0 quantifiable speed feats within G4 such as traveling a certain distance in a period of time etc, he's scaled from Doffy and the Meteor feat mostly.

No... Katakuri's future sight allows him to see seconds into the future if that, there's no way that would tell him VL is weak to blunt attacks, regardless Katakuri can't take even one Cero let alone a few.

He will see VL firing a cero and not give him a chance to use it if he thinks he can't tank or dodge it.

Why would he think this? He's always just tried letting an attack pass through him.

Just reread the fight, this never happened in the Manga as far as I can tell.

It did

My bad, was reading through their fight, not the part before. Read my post above

Again, him being faster is debatable, and one Cero completely vapes Katakuri.

It isn't and Future Sight gives him a huge edge in speed as well. Katakuri casually hits harder than Luffy's G3 Elephant Gun, he would put VL down in 2-3 hits at worst and that's being generous since VL has no blunt durability feats anywhere near that level.

I agree he would demolish Hichigo in a straight brawl, but while Katakuri can put him down with 2-3 hits, Hichigo can put Katakuri down with a single Cero.

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#23 Posted by shirso (4633 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: G4 scales far above base Luffy who does have a on panel quantifiable micro second timing feat, independent of any scaling.

I am referring to the feat on PH where he outraced Caesar's explosion when the explosives were sticking to his body.

The separation between fabric and skin is less than 1 cm and Luffy was completely untouched by the explosion which means he moved before an explosion could cover less than a cm. That's single digit micro second timing.

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#24 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2576 posts) - - Show Bio

What's this? A bleach fan somewhat listening to reason. Let me stock up food because the end of days us upon us!

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#25 Posted by Sy8000 (35699 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri punches his head off.

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#27 Edited by ovy7 (3261 posts) - - Show Bio

@shirso: Quantifiable feats for microsecond reaction time for Luffy? And as a fun fact, microsecond is 1/1000000 of a second, in that timeframe lighting barelly moves 10cm.

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#28 Posted by shirso (4633 posts) - - Show Bio

@ovy7: It's the PH explosion outracing feat. Luffy moves before an explosion can travel less than a cm, that's microsecond timing.

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#29 Posted by KingGuinness (1912 posts) - - Show Bio

Kat pummels him.

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#30 Posted by zxc6 (743 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri

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#31 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8443 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Katakuri, if he can avoid being vaped by a Cero.

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#32 Posted by Dominador (22 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri wins

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#33 Posted by CocoUssyBreaker (1977 posts) - - Show Bio

A character that can barely keep up with Luffy cannot even touch Ichigo let along Vasto Lorde Ichigo. Ichigo stomps.

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#34 Posted by FriesKetchup70 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

A character that can barely keep up with Luffy cannot even touch Ichigo let along Vasto Lorde Ichigo. Ichigo stomps.

Please tell me you are trolling.......

I forget I'm talking to the person who called Aizen multiversal, The bias is strong with this one.

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#35 Posted by CocoUssyBreaker (1977 posts) - - Show Bio

@cocoussybreaker said:

A character that can barely keep up with Luffy cannot even touch Ichigo let along Vasto Lorde Ichigo. Ichigo stomps.

Please tell me you are trolling.......

I forget I'm talking to the person who called Aizen multiversal, The bias is strong with this one.

lol Aizen is barely hill level.

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#36 Posted by SkySanji (5172 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri gives Vasto lorde the slam jam only thing he has to worry about is Cero.

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#37 Posted by SkySanji (5172 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji said:

Katakuri gives Vasto lorde the slam jam only thing he has to worry about is Cero.

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#38 Posted by JOVIOLMA (6971 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri

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#39 Posted by AGrape (277 posts) - - Show Bio

Katakuri blitz and one shots

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#40 Posted by Gaoron (9131 posts) - - Show Bio

Ichi, fast enough to blitz and one shot with a cero.

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#41 Posted by weebbicboi (2205 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron said:

Ichi, fast enough to blitz and one shot with a cero.

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#42 Posted by Yray (592 posts) - - Show Bio

Strength mochi GG

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#43 Posted by FaradaySloth (10594 posts) - - Show Bio
What Ichigo will do to Katakuri
What Ichigo will do to Katakuri