Vitiate and Palpatine vs The Daughter

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Dark Empire Palpatine. In Prime Vitiate.

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The Daughter.

Round 1: The Father is for all intents and purposes dead. Battle outside of Mortis.

Round 2: The Father is alive. Battle in Mortis.

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#2  Edited By echostarlord117

If we include her accolades, I would say the Daughter wins by a slight margin. By feats alone, the duo stomps.

Does the Father intervene in round two? Because he could solo this with ease...

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Does the Father intervene in round two? Because he could solo this with ease...

No. The Father is only around so she has her immortality.

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@sirfizzwhizz said:

@echostarlord117 said:

Does the Father intervene in round two? Because he could solo this with ease...

No. The Father is only around so she has her immortality.

Well... assuming you could K.O. the Daughter, could the fight be won that way? Otherwise, round two is a stomp in the Daughter's favor.

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#7  Edited By serrure

hard to say since we dont know what kind of crap Vitiate is gonna pull with the newest chapters of SWTORO. i dont buy that he is 100% dead yet.

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The Force-Wielders are all garbage. Val or Palpy solo effortlessly.

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@reikai said:

The Force-Wielders are all garbage. Val or Palpy solo effortlessly.

What the hell kinda drugs are you on?

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@emperordmb: The kind that let's you see through bovine manure.

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@reikai said:

@emperordmb: The kind that let's you see through bovine manure.

can i get some of that

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@reikai said:

@emperordmb: The kind that let's you see through bovine manure.

By feats, I agree.

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@sirfizzwhizz: By all things. Their abilities are ambiguous, their status unimportant, and they ultimately had no effect in the events of the series. As it stands, their entire existence was completely pointless. Aside from being apparent representatives of their chosen Force alignment, they had little else going for him. The idea that they affect the balance of the force in the galaxy is wholeheartedly flawed, in that they only began on Mortis a thousand years prior. Given the Jedi, Dark Siders and Sith have existed for some twenty-thousand years or so, it makes their so-called "accolades" completely meaningless.

What really sold me on how pointless it was, was when the Son showed Anakin his future, and then the Father erases his memory of it. It made the entire event pointless. What really kills any argument for them is when Anakin subjugates the kids, and then the Son realizies how much more power can be obtained. Which is kind of redundant when you're supposed to represent the entirety of the Dark Side and yet have no idea that there are no limits? It just screams of lazy writing.

I'll give credit where it's due. It's a neat idea, it was just executed poorly. The Daughter doesn't have what it takes, in any respect, to defeat either of these two.

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@reikai said:

@sirfizzwhizz: By all things. Their abilities are ambiguous, their status unimportant, and they ultimately had no effect in the events of the series. As it stands, their entire existence was completely pointless. Aside from being apparent representatives of their chosen Force alignment, they had little else going for him. The idea that they affect the balance of the force in the galaxy is wholeheartedly flawed, in that they only began on Mortis a thousand years prior. Given the Jedi, Dark Siders and Sith have existed for some twenty-thousand years or so, it makes their so-called "accolades" completely meaningless.

What really sold me on how pointless it was, was when the Son showed Anakin his future, and then the Father erases his memory of it. It made the entire event pointless. What really kills any argument for them is when Anakin subjugates the kids, and then the Son realizies how much more power can be obtained. Which is kind of redundant when you're supposed to represent the entirety of the Dark Side and yet have no idea that there are no limits? It just screams of lazy writing.

I'll give credit where it's due. It's a neat idea, it was just executed poorly. The Daughter doesn't have what it takes, in any respect, to defeat either of these two.

Damn, those are good points. Thanks for the feedback.

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By feats the team

By any kind of reasoning the Daughter

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The team doesn't have the vastly superior feats that are being implied here. Then again, there are some oddly disturbing plot (or rather, power) holes in the Mortis arc, and the Daughter's involved in them.

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Daughter wrecks house. Stop putting nigh-omnipotent beings against other Force users.

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The daughter likely one shots each casually.