Vinsmoke Sanji vs Portgas D. Ace

Rules

• Win by death only
• Both are bloodlusted
• Fight where Blackbeard fought Ace
• No prep

Bonus round: These two team up to fight an in-character Marco.

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Sanji blitz and one-shot

Sanji wins. Ace doesn't have the stats or haki to contend outside of in verse hype.

Ace easily. Diable jambe won't work and Ace got better DC, and AOE attacks can tag him.

Sanji easily

Sanki wins here

Diamble jambe uses haki so it will work

Ace was the 2nd division commander of the Whitebeard Pirates. It take a miracle for sanji to beat any commander from any Yonko crew. Hes especially not beating the second commander of the strongest pirate ever.

@whatamiseeing: Ace didn't choose to be the second commander cuz he strong he was chosen cuz everyone in the crew really wanted him to be commander and kinda liked him, ace almost died from getting punch one of Blackbeard he wasn't that strong

@exauce: He was strong because his attack was comparable to the island, hes at least large mountain level. He could react to aokiji and hold off Akainu for a bit. Sanji is not close to that.

He was hurt not almost dead.

Blackbeard is strong thats why he got as far as he has

@exauce: It won't be as efficient because the damage boost made by fire won't work.

Sanji wins. Ace only has hype. If Haki was more fleshed out preskip then this would probably be different, but this is just how it is. Side character vs main in a nutshell too

He was strong because his attack was comparable to the island, hes at least large mountain level. He could react to aokiji and hold off Akainu for a bit. Sanji is not close to that.

True, i would even say he is small island level, and reacting to aokiji or akainu ain't that impressive, considering Sanji is way beyond that speed, remember what he did to Oven? yea that is what is going to do to ace

He was hurt not almost dead.

He was hurt real bad only from a punch from Blackbeard and sanji's Kicks are way beyond that

Blackbeard is strong thats why he got as far as he has

Yes Blackbeard is strong but Blackbeard's punch from him isn't even close to Sanji's kick

You forgetting about the Kick, it not just fire it a kick

Since both are bloodlusted, Ace should win right off the bat with his large scale fire attack. He has also matched Aokiji before. Sanji has the advantage of having post time skip feats and haki, but I believe Ace "should" be superior, and he definitely has the DC and scaling to back it up.

Since both are Bloodlusted Sanji will blitz and one-shot, he not even going to let ace anytime to move

If Sangi is bloodlusted he will probably immediately go into his Raid suit armor and run circles around Ace. Ace hasn't shown any speed feats to keep up with Sangi nor have he ever displayed any form of haki. Sangi wins with mid difficulty

@exauce: Sanji isn’t blitzing they will be around the same speed. Akainu and Aokiji are relativistic+ and Ace reacted to them so he is as well.

Nobody is one shotting anyone Ace is not Oven and does not scale to him if anything he scales to other commanders like Marco. Sanji can do damage but Ace will still be able to fight.

Sanji may have better physicals but Ace is stronger due to fire. Sanji is not getting around Aces flame commandment and flame pillar to protect himself. Sanji is getting hurt bad if he wants to land a kick. Entei is too much for Sanji.

Sanji wins for the reasons under:

1. The raid suit is fire proof.

2. He is definently too fast for ace.

3. Sanji hits harder than blackbeard's punches.

4. Sanji has better/stronger haki than ace.

Ace gets put down low-mid diff. This is just not the right opponent for ace. He's fighting someone who is immune to his power(with the raid suit he can quite literally walk through fire), and since sanji is faster than him he gets put down before he can really do anything. He might get some attacks off but otherwise he is losing for sure. Sanji doesn't need to use diable jambe to put ace down.

I don't think your right about this. You are right about no one oneshotting eachother. But sanji is definitely winning. His raid suit is fire resistant, meaning he has no trouble hitting ace, especially since during that time period sanji will be invisible. Ace can't hit what he can't see. He doesn't have the durability feats either to say he can take many hits from sanji. Sanji is definitely faster too. So no, sanji won't have problems hitting someone like ace, who has inferior haki, has no speed feats on par with sanji, has barely any reaction speed feats to say he can react to sanji, and doesn't have durability feats to say he can take many hits from sanji either

@whatamiseeing:

Sanji isn’t blitzing they will be around the same speed. Akainu and Aokiji are relativistic+ and Ace reacted to them so he is as well.

The thing is both pre-time skip Akainu and Aokiji are not as fast as Sanji considering himself should be relativistic+++ considering he dodges the laser pre-time skip, now think about post-time skip, also pre-time skip Akainu and Aokiji got blitz by gear 2 Luffy during the war so who at that point was like sub relativistic+ to relativistic+ in gear 2

Nobody is one shotting anyone Ace is not Oven and does not scale to him if anything he scales to other commanders like Marco. Sanji can do damage but Ace will still be able to fight.

Nope ace doesn't scale to Marco in durability he far below Marco in anything except in DC, Sanji will one-shot ace couldn't take a standard punch from Blackbeard meaning he ain't taking any kick from Sanji

Sanji may have better physicals but Ace is stronger due to fire. Sanji is not getting around Aces flame commandment and flame pillar to protect himself. Sanji is getting hurt bad if he wants to land a kick. Entei is too much for Sanji.

Sanji has way better physical way better, Sanji will be getting around aces flame considering he has Haki and he himself uses a firebase technique and can go completely on fire he still doesn't even get a scratch so he is getting around Ace flame, Sanji will kill him if he lands a kick, Sanji tank Ursus shock and stayed standing so he may tank, or just dodge it I mean it Sanji

Yea, Ace low diffs.

Depends if Ace gets of a DF attack first he wins, eitherwise Sanji kicks him.

I mean what is ace fire going to do him cuz half-the time he is literally of fire

Ace won't even tickle him

while sanji can easily one-shot him

Lotta dumb shit being said here, it’s like the One Piece community is now run by people with a few less chromosomes.

@socajunkie: Lol another stupid ass nigga who doesn't even know what he is talking about, sound like a guy with a few more chromosomes normal complaining about us having less chromosomes than he does

@exauce: It’s telling you thought I was talking about you, really at least there’s some level of self-awareness.

No, as you’re someone who thinks Sanji is faster than Akainu and Aokiji, I have no doubt the OP debating is in safe hands.

@socajunkie: u were talking about everyone in this thread, also I used the word Us not I

Yes, I think Sanji is faster than Akainu and Aokiji even pre-time skip Luffy manage to blitz them, I don't see why he won't be

@exauce: Post the scan of that happening please.

@socajunkie:

@exauce: That’s not speedblitzing, that’s Luffy creating a distraction turning ice to water vapour then running away because he couldn’t face the Admirals head on.

@socajunkie: He still went faster than them only kizaru manages to catch up to him and sanji is massively faster than this luffy so..

@exauce: What do you mean he went faster than them? They didn’t move, didn’t bother to give him further attention. All Luffy literally did was run past them as they stood still, there was no contest of speed there.

Jesus, is common sense lost on people these days.

@socajunkie: Yes, he went faster than them, They literally trying to stop him, what u talking about man, they didn't stand still cuz kizaru was faster than Luffy and manages to catch up to him kicking him, so they stood cuz they couldn't catch up to him simple as that.

Jesus is not going to help you here

Ace was still a rookie commander, who got promoted because of his potential and the fact that this position was open. He was weaker than all the other second strongest commanders we have seen so far, and probably even weaker than guys like Jozu, Vista, Cracker...

Sanji has better stats, and is quite resistant to fire, he should win this.

Sanji wins very high diff cause he has invisibility.

I think you guys are forgetting Ace fought Jinbe to a standstill and Sanji isn't above Jinbe. Ace wins

@limitbreaker1: sanji is above jimbei

@exauce proof?

sanji has better feats but ace scales higher imo

I mean Sanji is faster, stronger and more durable

Nah, Sanji has way better scaling

@manimalman: yes he scales higher which is the funny thing

He doesn't

@exauce: plz elaborate

@limitbreaker1: What? Sanji is better in every category to the expection DC

@exauce: ok but can you prove sanji scales above jinbe because if not he is not beating ace

@limitbreaker1: also that was pre-time skip Jimbei by the way

Sanji is easily faster than, at minimum he is like relativistic both in combat and reaction speed

Sanji is easily more durable, considering the tank Ursus shock and stayed standing, he no sells basically all the attack the got hits with during whole cake island

Sanji is easily stronger from scaling over moria who split an island with a punch or casually overpowering everyone he fought with during whole cake island

How hard can ace hit with pure strength? That’s the deciding factor for me.