Venom & Spider-Man vs Sabretooth and Wolverine

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#2  Edited By redbull

Wolverine and Sabretooth.
 
When it comes down to it, their healing factors will never let them stop. They'll eventually win after a long bloody battle.

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is Venom Eddie Brock or Mac Gargan?
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#4  Edited By Darkseid Elite

eddie brock 

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#5  Edited By Alexman113

Either Spider-Man or Vemon solos this.

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Spidey & Venom put aside their differences and take this.
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#7  Edited By redbull
@alexman113 said:
" Either Spider-Man or Vemon solos this. "
That's a joke. Wolverine has fought and survived so many countless more insane battles in his lifetime. Do you think Spiderman or Venom would survive the same assault Magneto put Wolvie through? Wolverine once regenerated from being nearly a burnt skeleton.
 
Spiderman and Venom are tough, but they just can't heal from their wounds like Wolv/Sabretooth can. Trust me, Wolverine and Sabre will endure alot of damage but they'll come right back from it. On the flipside, all it takes is a well-placed adamantium strike from either of W/Sabre to completely eviscerate Venom/Spidey, and they'll die from the wound.
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How is what Magneto did to Wolverine in any way relevant to this thread?  
 
Spidey & Venom are faster, stronger and more than capable of incapacitating either of the 2 with webbing long enough to deliver a KO punch. Not to mention the symbiote which can strike from many different angles and Brock can heal quickly from major injuries. Unless Wolverine and Sabretooth have any access to fire or sonics they aren't winning this.
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#9  Edited By SilverSentry

Team 1 wins there is no way they can keep up with Spidey or Venom  
And their isn't even a way they can hurt Venom unless as stated before they have Sonics or fire 
Which even then Venom has shown resistance too . And if Spidey fights seriously he can solo too . 
 
Could be wrong though    .
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#10  Edited By jakywedf
@Jake Fury said:
" Spidey & Venom put aside their differences and take this. "
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#11  Edited By spidey 15

Venom solos.=]
 
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Spidey will obviously not solo here but venom can solo. If you saw the encounter that venom had with logan, logan tried to stab venom and venom took the hit like it was nothing. So neither logan nor creed will even hurt venom. And venom is more than capable of webbing these 2 in a way that they won't be able to get free. Add and spiderman and this is a total curbstomp.=]

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#12  Edited By FLCL1
@spidey 15 said:
"Venom solos.=] "

beat me too it >.<
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@FLCL1: lol
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#14  Edited By Knightly1

I think what needed to be said has been said. Spidey and Venom win here.

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#15  Edited By spidey 15
@SilverSentry said:

" Team 1 wins there is no way they can keep up with Spidey or Venom  And their isn't even a way they can hurt Venom unless as stated before they have Sonics or fire Which even then Venom has shown resistance too . And if Spidey fights seriously he can solo too .  Could be wrong though    . "

If spidey fight seriously he can put a really good fight against both of them but i don't think he can solo. If he fight like he usualy does, he will be stomp, even if we have seen him doing better against mutliple opponets, they are just too dangerous. But if the fight was 1 on 1, he can beat either of them after a really good fight. If he fights seriously on a 1 on 1 fight, he will beat them easy IMO=]
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#16  Edited By Ferro Vida

Venom can possibly solo.

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#17  Edited By crabtree

draw

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#18  Edited By h1a8

Spidey is the fastest here. His webbing is the key. If Venom takes on Sabretooth then Spidey can win over Logan very fast by webbing him so quick and in such a way where Logan can't cut himself out nor break free. After that Spidey just webs Logan's face causing him to suffocate. Then Spidey joins Venom to double "maximum spider" Sabretooth for a quick ko.

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Bump and wolverine team

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#20  Edited By GodGate

Wolverine and Sabertooth eventually take this after many KOs and clawing out of venom's stomach. Their Regen is just too good for this fight and physicals are good enough so they won't get bodied. (Both are around captain America level)

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Venom & Spidey.

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Spider-Man Team stomps

Way faster and physically stronger too wolverine won’t tag them

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@godgate: wolverine is like 1 to 2 tons strength and sabertooth is like 5 ton range they are both much stronger than cap who is like 1200 pound

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Spider-Man Team stomps

Way faster and physically stronger too wolverine won’t tag them

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@dmnb2wavy: Superior in a way that matter in this fight: speed & agility. That, plus webbing.

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@dmnb2wavy: Superior in a way that matter in this fight: speed & agility. That, plus webbing.

Spider-Man isn’t that much faster than wolverine tho and wolverine will eventually tag Spider-Man.

also webbing is only effective if they are in a enclosed space

both wolverine and saber tooth can make webbing ineffective

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spidey and venom would win a majority over these two anyday

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#29  Edited By Dmnb2wavy

@lordoftheninjas said:

Spider-Man Team stomps

Way faster and physically stronger too wolverine won’t tag them

Wolverine has tagged both multiple times and they aren’t stomping

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wolverine has beaten venom and fought evenly with spidey on many occasions and in the jason aaron series knocked him out with one shot from behind.

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Assuming the fight is to KO/incap or death, Spider-Man and Venom take this. They're just too much physically for Wolverine and Sabretooth. Not to say that the feral boys have zero chance, but ultimately the Arachnids are too strong, with too much range and versatility.

wolverine has beaten venom and fought evenly with spidey on many occasions and in the jason aaron series knocked him out with one shot from behind.

That's kind of a sus example, given that (1) Spider-Man was completely surprised because his spider-sense was distracted by the Phoenix gun, and (2) Spider-Man has much more frequently withstood hits stronger than Wolverine dishes out.

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Peter and Brock win more often than not.

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@fenristhewolf: true but using pressure points wolverine has dropped more durable people in oneshot and has traded blows with spidey and even stronger opponents before.

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@fenristhewolf: true but using pressure points wolverine has dropped more durable people in oneshot and has traded blows with spidey and even stronger opponents before.

Spidey is too quick

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@kgb725 said:
@comic_book_fan said:

@fenristhewolf: true but using pressure points wolverine has dropped more durable people in oneshot and has traded blows with spidey and even stronger opponents before.

Spidey is too quick

he is only a little quicker wolverine is way more skilled and experienced but as a whole i would say venom and spidey take a slight majority because eddie is to hard to hurt just using claws and there range advantage

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@kgb725 said:
@comic_book_fan said:

@fenristhewolf: true but using pressure points wolverine has dropped more durable people in oneshot and has traded blows with spidey and even stronger opponents before.

Spidey is too quick

he is only a little quicker wolverine is way more skilled and experienced but as a whole i would say venom and spidey take a slight majority because eddie is to hard to hurt just using claws and there range advantage

Wolverine can catch him but Spidey will definitely be able to get multiple hits in before that happens

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Either Spider-Man or Vemon solos this.

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#39  Edited By fenristhewolf

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true but using pressure points wolverine has dropped more durable people in oneshot and has traded blows with spidey and even stronger opponents before.

Also true, but the times he's dropped more durable opponents in one-shot are extremely limited. He's traded blows with Spidey, but generally has the lower-hand. Range, and webs are a HUGE issue. Again, not to say that he has zero chance, he is much more skilled, and fights more lethally than Spidey, but damn, Spidey and Venom are a lot.

Edit: forgot to add that Spidey knows Logan pretty well, and his limits. He can go much harder than he normally does, and knows that his webs are a huge advantage.

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@fenristhewolf: wolverine has stood up to attacks that knocked hercules out and has faught roughhouse and weindago without popping his claws but i would give it to spidey and venom a verry slight majority 51 49 that close barly enough to to mention but i give them the nod.

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@fenristhewolf: wolverine has stood up to attacks that knocked hercules out and has faught roughhouse and weindago without popping his claws but i would give it to spidey and venom a verry slight majority 51 49 that close barly enough to to mention but i give them the nod.

That sentence makes no sense at all unless they win with web incap

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@comic_book_fan:

true but using pressure points wolverine has dropped more durable people in oneshot and has traded blows with spidey and even stronger opponents before.

Also true, but the times he's dropped more durable opponents in one-shot are extremely limited. He's traded blows with Spidey, but generally has the lower-hand. Range, and webs are a HUGE issue. Again, not to say that he has zero chance, he is much more skilled, and fights more lethally than Spidey, but damn, Spidey and Venom are a lot.

Edit: forgot to add that Spidey knows Logan pretty well, and his limits. He can go much harder than he normally does, and knows that his webs are a huge advantage.

Webs aren’t that huge unless the environment favors them. Wolverine has react to webbing before and sabetooth has just ripped it apart.

spiderman isn’t dropping wolverine with his best blows honestly

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Team 1. Venom has the edge in the strength department and can give Spider-Man time to incap them. Although Spider won't be able to take many hits fromeither.

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Team 2. Wolverine and Sabretooth probably blitzes spiderman and wolverine and if they can't, still dosen't matter since they can't get past their insane regeneration and wolverine's adamantium durability advantage.

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#46  Edited By fenristhewolf

@dmnb2wavy:

Webs aren’t that huge unless the environment favors them. Wolverine has react to webbing before and sabetooth has just ripped it apart.

They are a huge factor, and spider-man has defeated Wolverine with them before. Even if Wolverine can block or escape them some of the time (and I'd say the evidence is in Spidey's favor here, with like one scan from a Drake's Cakes comic of Sabretooth busting out), they are still big advantages because they give Spider-Man range, and they're incapacitating. Even if Wolverine can escape (possible) it still slows him down and leaves him open to punches. Hell, Spidey can tag his foot and swing him into shit as well.

spiderman isn’t dropping wolverine with his best blows honestly

I think it's possible, if difficult. I feel like so many battleboard sites don't consider the evidence holistically. In other words, yeah Wolverine has a lot of feats of taking some hits from guys stronger than Spidey, so on the one hand looks like Spidey can't necessarily do it (at least quickly), but then, he has feats of getting KO'd by guys like Spider-Man too, if less.

Now, to my mind trying to square these conflicting pieces of evidence means that Spider-Man *might* be able to do it, but given the ratio of feats, it's a tough prospect. However, on battleboards you get people who try and act like wolverine's best or worst feats are how he acts all the time and ignore all else.

Now, what does this all mean for this battle? Well, I didn't see it as Spider-Man or even Venom just KOing Wolverine and Sabretooth with a punch. They'll use a combination of range, webs/tendrils to distract, slow down, or outright trap the Feral Boy. These tactics mean they can leverage their strength even more. This is even ignoring that Venom can also do things like impale Wolverine's heart, which historically is a much better way to put him down than punching him.

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wolverine has stood up to attacks that knocked hercules out

Sure, but he's also been knocked out by less. I prefer to try and look at all the evidence not one 1, 2, or even 10 feats from Wolverine's 3,000+ comics. Now, I don't think Spider-Man can KO Wolverine easily, but I don't think it's impossible. Plus, Spider-Man and Venom don't necessarily have to KO Wolverine and Sabretooth. Webs and tendrils can trap them, and Venom can make piercing attacks.

and has faught roughhouse and weindago without popping his claws but i would give it to spidey and venom a verry slight majority 51 49 that close barly enough to to mention but i give them the nod.

Plus, Roughouse is like as strong as Spidey, *maybe* but way slower. Not sure he's ever fought Wendigo without popping his claws. He didn't use them much when he he had bone claws I guess, but he barely survived that, and used the environment to even the odds (hitting wendigo with vehicles, lighting it on fire, etc).

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#48  Edited By Dmnb2wavy

@fenristhewolf said:

@dmnb2wavy:

Webs aren’t that huge unless the environment favors them. Wolverine has react to webbing before and sabetooth has just ripped it apart.

“They are a huge factor, and spider-man has defeated Wolverine with them before.”

  • yes when wolverine was off guard and it was in a alley way which is again as I stated circumstantial. plus on guard wolverine can react to webbing

“Even if Wolverine can block or escape them some of the time (and I'd say the evidence is in Spidey's favor here, with like one scan from a Drake's Cakes comic of Sabretooth busting out),

they are still big advantages because they give Spider-Man range, and they're incapacitating.”

  • they may give him range but it’s useless bc wolverine can still react to it.

“Even if Wolverine can escape (possible) it still slows him down and leaves him open to punches. Hell, Spidey can tag his foot and swing him into shit as well.”

  • spiderman would take a while to knock out wolverine even while webbed also again wolverine can react to webbing.

spiderman isn’t dropping wolverine with his best blows honestly

“I think it's possible, if difficult. I feel like so many battleboard sites don't consider the evidence holistically. In other words, yeah Wolverine has a lot of feats of taking some hits from guys stronger than Spidey, so on the one hand looks like Spidey can't necessarily do it (at least quickly), but then, he has feats of getting KO'd by guys like Spider-Man too, if less”

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  • by the words of gs those are low showings. wolverine consistently tanks attacks from characters far and I mean far stronger than Spider-Man. dude has been hit across countries. Spider-Man would take a long time to knock out wolverine. Spider-Man is building lvl at his best or a little bit higher while wolverine tanks hits from namor who is mountain lvl.

“Now, to my mind trying to square these conflicting pieces of evidence means that Spider-Man *might* be able to do it, but given the ratio of feats, it's a tough prospect. However, on battleboards you get people who try and act like wolverine's best or worst feats are how he acts all the time and ignore all else.“

  • I honestly do agree with this. Wolverine low showings are very low and his high showings are very high. All around wolverine is one of the most inconsistent characters in marvel, from getting knocked out by getting hit by a car to surviving punches from wb hulk, Which is why we have a middle ground with namor, thing, red hulk, ext. wolverine has a lot of high and low showings making it really hard to argue for the character sometimes.

“Now, what does this all mean for this battle? Well, I didn't see it as Spider-Man or even Venom just KOing Wolverine and Sabretooth with a punch. They'll use a combination of range, webs/tendrils to distract, slow down, or outright trap the Feral Boy. These tactics mean they can leverage their strength even more. This is even ignoring that Venom can also do things like impale Wolverine's heart, which historically is a much better way to put him down than punching him.“

  • ok let me address this. Venom barely ever uses range in combat and barely abuses his range when he fights wolverine so no he will just brawl like he always does. Spider-Man may be the only character who really uses his range sometimes but once he sees that its not really working he will fight with wolverine and lose eventually. The only way webbing will be useful here is if the environment favors it.
  • wolverine has healed his heart in seconds before.

plus how would venom just know that destroying wolverine heart could possibly knock him out when he has never done so before? It’s out of character actually.

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@dmnb2wavy:

plus how would venom just know that destroying wolverine heart could possibly knock him out when he has never done so before? It’s out of character actually.

Venom makes piercing attacks pretty frequently and has ripped up Logan's heart:

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Now, to be fair, Logan did heal very quickly in this fight:

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But I'd say that's kind of a high showing for him. I'd say more frequently having his heart or vital organs destroys slows Logan down significantly.

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@dmnb2wavy:

plus how would venom just know that destroying wolverine heart could possibly knock him out when he has never done so before? It’s out of character actually.

Venom makes piercing attacks pretty frequently and has ripped up Logan's heart:

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Now, to be fair, Logan did heal very quickly in this fight:

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But I'd say that's kind of a high showing for him. I'd say more frequently having his heart or vital organs destroys slows Logan down significantly.

Ripping up his heart isn’t the same as completely destroying his heart or ripping it out completely like saber tooth did so I disagree. also Logan is very inconsistent as to how something sharp could effect him. He can get loaded full with bullets( that should hit his organs and heart) and keep trucking some times and other times he gets knocked out.