Vegeta vs HST team
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PSK or SK Yhwach teleports a TSB into Vegeta’s head as soon as the fight starts, erasing half of his brain and killing him instantly. If they don’t do this then they lose, so why wouldn’t they?
@ninjarizer: Good luck for trying to find a way to even tag vegeta
@ninjarizer: TSB affecting Vegeta, who resists Hakai, are you serious?
Ot: Vegeta oneshots the fodders.
@morningstar999: @seb178: Tagging Vegeta isn’t hard with the Almighty. I’m talking about TSB ignoring durability, not giving it existence erasure properties.
You guys actually assume that people like Vegeta, especially in DBS, go for some huge level AoE attack when they fight multiple enemies (especially in character). They just don’t.
Show me a time Vegeta just mindlessly charged at a character without having a monolouge first.
Regardless, it doesn’t matter. Vegeta gets the exact combination that it takes to dispatch him here due to future sight, fate, future and probability manipulation which the PSK and SK Yhwach possesses.
If TSB can harm him, it gets teleported at his head, and there’s NO WAY you can say Yhwach can’t do that, he’s teleported objects as well as himself without moving at all with future manipulation.
Let's see....
Battle of Gods Goku is already Universal in attack potency and current Vegeta is multiple times that
He is also minimum of sextillions of times FTL in combat through scaling using the basic logic of more ki = more speed unless stated otherwise

Weaker version of Goku whom even current base Vegeta scales above has also resisted existence erasure attack from literal God of Destruction
This is beyond stupid.
This is beyond stupid.
You are wrong. This is Comic Vine. Where actual universal and above characters get matched up against chars below even only solar system level.
HST team haxstomps
@morningstar999: Since when did Vegeta have hax??????????
@morningstar999: Since when did Vegeta have hax??????????
hakai and forced spirit fission
Energy Equalized
Meaning, Ki>>>hax can be used! Therefore, Vegeta haxstomps, or should I say Kistomps?? Or maybe Reiatsu Crush gg? Or how about Conqueror Haki gg??
@morningstar999: Ki crush GG
@pandalumina: Salty OP used Broly movie arc Vegeta it seems lel.
@morningstar999: ah so they nerfed him good
typical. Lol
@pandalumina: Vegeta can only use Hakai in his Ultra Ego form which is restricted as Vegeta can only use Super Saiyan 2 and Super Saiyan God (if it is needed), and does Super Saiyan God Vegeta even have? IIRC he used in Moro Arc as Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta, not in Super Saiyan God mode
@god_killer11: nah
we clearly saw him using it in base on Beerus's planet, but yea it's irrelevant since he's nerfed to the Broly arc with weaker forms
@morningstar999: @pandalumina: wait wait wait looks like there is a confusion here so let me clear it
This is not broly movie vegeta, this is current vegeta but forms above SSJG are restricted bcs if I hadn't restricted the transformation then it would be a mismatch IMO.
BoG base Goku blinks
@frostaku: he is a troll, dont mind him.

We literally have an official source saying the DB universe is based on our own. So yeah, debunked.

Also a statement that claims there are infinite amount of galaxies in the universe, so infinite universe confirmed. Yet another debunk.
The Daizenshuu 4 does NOT state the universe is a hundred million light years long - that's headcanon. It says dozens to hundreds of millions of light years AWAY, as in the distance from Earth. Wtf?
Also we don't know where Zeno was after he destroyed the entire timeline. For all we know he immediately teleported to a place that has a space-time or maybe he literally remade the universe, who knows.

We literally have an official source saying the DB universe is based on our own. So yeah, debunked.

Also a statement that claims there are infinite amount of galaxies in the universe, so infinite universe confirmed. Yet another debunk.
The Daizenshuu 4 does NOT state the universe is a hundred million light years long - that's headcanon. It says dozens to hundreds of millions of light years AWAY, as in the distance from Earth. Wtf?
Also we don't know where Zeno was after he destroyed the entire timeline. For all we know he immediately teleported to a place that has a space-time or maybe he literally remade the universe, who knows.
both are none canon and do not come from daizenshuu
stop believing in panda's fake scans
The first one comes from the kaizenshuu
https://www.kanzenshuu.com/gods-and-cosmos/universe/

none canon ^
written by VegettoEX
second one comes from worldview
http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/07-worldview.php
also none canon
no one in Dragon ball can truly destroy a space-time continuum
All "12 universes" have shown to exist inside a space-time/real universe/4D continuum
they aren't even close to the size of the observable universe.
Holy fuck you're a downplayer its unreal.
BOTH OF THOSE WEBSITES ARE USING TRANSLATIONS FROM DAIZENSHUU 4 AND 7. THE SECOND WEBSITE IS LITERALLY A COMPREHENSIVE TRANSLATION PROJECT FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE DAIZENSHUU.
Like, are you joking with me or what?
What? Prove the translations are false. The second website you posted is literally a translation project for the entirety of the Daizenshuu as shown here:
http://magikarp46.com/dragonball/guidebooks/
And Kanzenshuu is literally just recounting the Daizenshuu. You can see them cite it as sources numerous times.

Whenever someone travels back in time and changes stuff a new timeline is generated which creates another Zeno, which shows Zeno is bound by space-time.
Okay, so? DB characters have 3D existence, so what? Everybody already knows this.
Size is irrelevant anyways but from galaxies being visible I can conclude all the 12 universes are inferior in size to ours.
Who says those orbs are to scale? Who says those orbs are depicting the entirety of the universe and not just a small portion of it? You're making big leaps in logic and expecting everyone to abide by that.
Size doesn't matter anyways as all 12 are 3D objects and not 4D continuum anyways. A 4D continuum is infinitely above 3D ones.
The fuck are you talking about? ALL standard universes are 4D. There is no such thing as a '3D continuum.' Now I know you're just spouting pseudo-intellectual bullshit to sound smart when you don't know what tf you're talking about.
firstly they aren't even space-time continuums
What? It's a universe with both space and time. How is it not a space-time continuum?
And Bulma says there is a center
Infinity can have a center, you know. Bulma could've been talking about the Universe's center point of origin, or its center of mass (i.e the point where its at its most dense), not the equidistant point.
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