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#1  Edited By Joygirl

V (V for Vendetta) vs. Van Helsing (Hugh Jackman version)

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Morals on (hah), bloodlust off.

Helsing has his hand-saws, and his repeating crossbow. He's not a werewolf.

V has his six knives, but no breastplate.

Fight takes place at night, in an enormous abandoned cathedral.

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#3  Edited By Erik

Helsing.

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#4  Edited By eatmore_payless

Van Helsing easy

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#6  Edited By Saren
@Erik said:

Helsing.

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#7  Edited By ReVamp

Van Helsing. Don't know for sure though...

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#8  Edited By entropy_aegis

Helsing .

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#9  Edited By Billy Batson

Isn't this against rules?
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#10  Edited By Saren
@Billy Batson said:

Isn't this against rules?
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Why would it be? It's movie vs movie.
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#11  Edited By Billy Batson

@CitizenBane said:

@Billy Batson said:

Isn't this against rules?
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Why would it be? It's movie vs movie.

Oh wait, never mind. For some reason the Hellsing anime came into my mind.
Van Helsing takes it.
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#12  Edited By cattlebattle

Seeing that V was able to kill a a group of trained soldiers before they could reload their guns I'd say he has got this
 
He was very much superhuman, I don't recall Helsing being anything than a normal guy .

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#13  Edited By Fehafare
@Billy Batson
Than it would be rapestomp, but so it's just stomp.
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#14  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Billy Batson said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Billy Batson said:

Isn't this against rules?
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Why would it be? It's movie vs movie.

Oh wait, never mind. For some reason the Hellsing anime came into my mind.
Van Helsing takes it.
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Hah, same here, until I opened the thread.
 
@cattlebattle said:
Seeing that V was able to kill a a group of trained soldiers before they could reload their guns I'd say he has got this  He was very much superhuman, I don't recall Helsing being anything than a normal guy .

Agreed, I'm not sure why everyone is saying Helsing will win this.
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#15  Edited By rmsb1984
@texasdeathmatch said:
@Billy Batson said:

@CitizenBane said:

@Billy Batson said:

Isn't this against rules?
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Why would it be? It's movie vs movie.

Oh wait, never mind. For some reason the Hellsing anime came into my mind.
Van Helsing takes it.
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Hah, same here, until I opened the thread.
 
@cattlebattle said:
Seeing that V was able to kill a a group of trained soldiers before they could reload their guns I'd say he has got this  He was very much superhuman, I don't recall Helsing being anything than a normal guy .
Agreed, I'm not sure why everyone is saying Helsing will win this.
Probably because Hellsing looks smarter and more creative than V
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#16  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@rmsb1984: I mean....they look almost identical minus the mask and weapons. And I wouldn't say Helsing looks "smarter."
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#17  Edited By rmsb1984
@texasdeathmatch said:
@rmsb1984: I mean....they look almost identical minus the mask and weapons. And I wouldn't say Helsing looks "smarter."
But Hellsings arsenal of weaponry are much more than V. Plus Hellsing use long range weapons most on the time. Unlike V. Hellsing fights supernatural beings such as vampires and paranormal being. V only fights humans. 
 
V's death was caused by a group of cops, Hellsing killed groups of paranormal beings. It's not only Hellsing's weapons which do the thing, he's skill do the major role which are greater than V's.
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#18  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@rmsb1984:

Hellsing fights supernatural beings such as vampires and paranormal being. V only fights humans.

Well then V would have the advantage here, since the fight involves two humans and V is used to fighting humans while Helsing has always fought super natural creatures with weapons designed to kill them.
 
And let's be honest, Helsing isn't exactly too skilled or a crack shot with his crossbow; a lot of his kills in the movie were luck or just because he knew the creature's weakness (holy water, silver bullets, etc). 
 
I highly doubt Helsing would be able to kill a large group of cops with guns, even if he was fully stacked with everything from the movie.
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#19  Edited By Dragonhear5000

V will win. Helsing is ordinary men with not ordinary weapons. Unholy beings he killed, was defeated rather by weapons of faith. V on the other hand is trained killer, superhuman with strength/reflexes far above trained soldier. As for intelligence obviously V  IQ is at max level.

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#20  Edited By Joygirl

Yeah, I was kinda wondering why the votes were unanimous towards Helsing... V is extremely skilled, brilliant, stealthy, and superhuman. Van Helsing was great against vampires and a bad dude in general, but against a normal person I figured he'd be a bit more balanced.

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#21  Edited By Nefarious

Van Helsing.

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V is smarter. More cunning.  If Van Helsing can manage to unlock the powers of Wolverine, maybe he can sniff the real V out.

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#23  Edited By PikminMania
@Nefarious: How so? V has superhuman abilities including super strength, agility, and accuracy. The only reason he died is because he let the police officer shoot him.
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#24  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@PikminMania said:
@Nefarious: How so? V has superhuman abilities including super strength, agility, and accuracy. The only reason he died is because he let the police officer shoot him.
Not to mention he got shot a sh*t ton of times and managed to kill everyone shooting at him before he decided it was a good time to die.
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#25  Edited By PikminMania
@texasdeathmatch: Yeah, V losing is just bullcocky.
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@texasdeathmatch said:
@PikminMania said:
@Nefarious: How so? V has superhuman abilities including super strength, agility, and accuracy. The only reason he died is because he let the police officer shoot him.
Not to mention he got shot a sh*t ton of times and managed to kill everyone shooting at him before he decided it was a good time to die.
So if he decided it was not time to die, he would of still been living. That's a pretty cool power. The power to decide when to die.
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#27  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@MarvelRulesTheWorld said:
@texasdeathmatch said:
@PikminMania said:
@Nefarious: How so? V has superhuman abilities including super strength, agility, and accuracy. The only reason he died is because he let the police officer shoot him.
Not to mention he got shot a sh*t ton of times and managed to kill everyone shooting at him before he decided it was a good time to die.
So if he decided it was not time to die, he would of still been living. That's a pretty cool power. The power to decide when to die.
It certainly is. Probably the best power out there.
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#28  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@PikminMania said:
@texasdeathmatch: Yeah, V losing is just bullcocky.
Yeah, I know. Just some people say saying since Van Helsing fights vampires and werewolves, he can take V...which is a little ridiculous because he uses specialized weapons to kill them. 
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#29  Edited By Nefarious

I forget why I picked Van Helsing.

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#30  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@Nefarious said:
I forget why I picked Van Helsing.
hahaha hilarious
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@Nefarious said:
I forget why I picked Van Helsing.
Maybe because he's Wolverine???
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#32  Edited By Nefarious
@texasdeathmatch: lol I think my reason will come back to my mind.
 
@MarvelRulesTheWorld: Most likely.
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#33  Edited By rmsb1984
@texasdeathmatch 
 
@PikminMania said 
@Nefarious How so V has superhuman abilities including super strength, agility, and accuracy. The only reason he died is because he let the police officer shoot him.

He was not described to posses super human ability, speed, or accuracy. Probably fully trained but not super human. If you watch the movie, you'll see in the end that he was wearing a bullet proof vest. The mask itself has some sort of bullet resistance because it was able to protect him in one of the shots. Bullet resistance though not bullet proof because it still breaks, but he if there's no mask then he's dead. 
 
Somehow, it may be true V could defeat Hellsing because V lives in a more modern owrld were weapons are more advance. But to consider him to posses superhuman etchetera is just too much. I don't even recall Vertigo comics nor the movie describing Vendeta to posses superhuman Characteristics, just rage and hatred he has in his heart. 

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#34  Edited By rmsb1984
@texasdeathmatch:  
@PikminMania said:
@Nefarious: How so? V has superhuman abilities including super strength, agility, and accuracy. The only reason he died is because he let the police officer shoot him.
He was not described to posses super human ability, speed, or accuracy. Probably fully trained but not super human. If you watch the movie, you'll see in the end that he was wearing a bullet proof vest. The mask itself has some sort of bullet resistance because it was able to protect him in one of the shots. Bullet resistance though not bullet proof because it still breaks, but he if there's no mask then he's dead. 
 
Somehow, it may be true V could defeat Hellsing because V lives in a more modern world were weapons are more advance. But to consider him to posses superhuman etchetera is just too much. I don't even recall Vertigo comics nor the movie describing Vendeta to posses superhuman Characteristics, just rage and hatred he has in his heart. 
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#36  Edited By Joygirl

It was a steel breastplate, not a bulletproof vest. Also, how about we shoot you in the chest a hundred or so times, wearing a steel breastplate? Then, if you aren't flesh pudding after ten shots we'll see if you can kill 12 or so trained soldiers in 1-3 seconds -- with daggers. Because a normal, decently trained human being can do that, right? V was very much superhuman from all the chemicals he was pumped full of, and I'm pretty sure I remember them mentioning it in the comic. If not, he's still a bad mother$&%@er.

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#37  Edited By texasdeathmatch

@rmsb1984: I never said he was superhuman. And that definitely wasn't a bullet proof vest...notice how he died at the end? haha. I'm just saying he's a better fighter.

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#38  Edited By MrRagePants

V is faster and more (lot more) durable than Hellsing.

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#39  Edited By rmsb1984
@texasdeathmatch said:

@rmsb1984: I never said he was superhuman. And that definitely wasn't a bullet proof vest...notice how he died at the end? haha. I'm just saying he's a better fighter.

Actually I was talking about PikminMania claiming he has Superhuman capabilities and you did agree to him in your reply to his post. About the vest, it is still considered bullet proof. The thing is there are so many bullets that smash at the vest. Didn't he gave a hint in an IRONIC WAY mentioning he has a bullet proof thing when he was ask why wont he die? "Beneath that mask is more than flesh. Beneath that mask is there's an idea. And that idea is BULLET PROOF."
  
   
Anyway you're probably right, he might be a better fighter.
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#40  Edited By rmsb1984
@Joygirl said:

It was a steel breastplate, not a bulletproof vest. Also, how about we shoot you in the chest a hundred or so times, wearing a steel breastplate? Then, if you aren't flesh pudding after ten shots we'll see if you can kill 12 or so trained soldiers in 1-3 seconds -- with daggers. Because a normal, decently trained human being can do that, right? V was very much superhuman from all the chemicals he was pumped full of, and I'm pretty sure I remember them mentioning it in the comic. If not, he's still a bad mother$&%@er.

During early ages a lot of solders are still able to kill enemy soldiers even though they are in severe conditions. They don't even wear bullet proof protection. Besides V said it himself in an ironic way in the movie.
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#41  Edited By Joygirl

I was pretty sure that was more of a "I'm freakin' crazy and I'm never gonna die until I finish what I'm doing" kinda one-liner but I could be wrong. He's still unbelievably durable. Walked a good distance too after being shot a hundred times.

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#42  Edited By PikminMania

@rmsb1984: Well I was talkign about how they mention it in the comics I believe. Due to all of the tests done to him

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#43  Edited By rmsb1984
@Joygirl said:
I was pretty sure that was more of a "I'm freakin' crazy and I'm never gonna die until I finish what I'm doing" kinda one-liner but I could be wrong. He's still unbelievably durable. Walked a good distance too after being shot a hundred times.
you're still aware that not all of those bullets entered his body right? LOL anyway I do agree with you. 
 
@PikminMania said:

@rmsb1984: Well I was talkign about how they mention it in the comics I believe. Due to all of the tests done to him

I see, to be honest I was only able to see 4 issues. I believe it has 11 or 12 issues right? I can't even remember if I saw that in the comics or newspaper's comic articles LOL. I wasn't able to see that they mention that in the comics. But if you say so, then ok. But I think the discussion is about the movie V and movie Hellsing. In the movie, no super human capabilities was mention.
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#44  Edited By PikminMania
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Either way, I think V wins.
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#45  Edited By PowerHerc

V wins.

Van Helsing, a human, is quite overrated while V is a non-mystical, low-level superhuman master strategist and killer.

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#46  Edited By Joygirl

Bump!

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#47  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

This can go either way for me....

But for now Helsing 6/10

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#48  Edited By gingerpenny

Van Helsing

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#49  Edited By Floopay

V rocks his world on every level. Then gives this speech at his funeral:

I just don't find Helsing to come off as smarter than V...especially after that speech and the fact that he manipulated an entire country in one years time (though with several years prep).

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#50  Edited By terry2012

V wins here.