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A portal between our world and Middle Earth has opened, and Sauron is hell-bent on taking over. Is the US Military enough to defeat him?

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Probably US will take this. Mordor doesn't have anything against nukes. Also, each soldier can take more than 40 orcs with the machine gun, and bazookas, tanks, helicopters, drones and fighter aircrafts. That's to much for mordor. Trolls and nazguls will make no difference.

Could be a mismatch, but I like this thread styles :)

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US stomps the everloving shit out of Mordor and proceeds to annex all of Middle Earth and take its natural resources.

There is literally nothing Middle Earth can do to defend itself - the magic displayed in LOTR is not enough to counter the amount of hardware the US Military has.

Not to mention our tactics and intelligence-gathering is leagues better than theirs.

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Thanks! I try to make threads without a winner in mind, but I watch a lot of Death Battle and other versus shows so whenever I think of a matchup I'm constantly trying to think of a winner, even if I don't want to.

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Sauron at full power solos. Pretty sure the guy was a reality warper in his prime.

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Sauron corrupts the leaders and they destroy themselves.

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Sauron at full power solos. Pretty sure the guy was a reality warper in his prime.

No, he gets annihilated if he tries to fight. His magic is not good enough.

Sauron corrupts the leaders and they destroy themselves.

Possibly. But it wouldn't work if just send armies to fight. And he doesn't have a human form anymore to get close and corrupt humanity.

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#8  Edited By BigDumbSmartGuy

@strider1992:Would need proof of this, or a feat of some kind.

@sirdrprofessor said:

Sauron corrupts the leaders and they destroy themselves.

Implying that A. He would be able to cross through the heavily-guarded portal to make it back into our world and B. That US leaders aren't already corrupt as hell.

Ayyyy, political commentary.

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US military would stomp the armies but when it comes to the mystical and magical beings it may be a different story...

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US military would stomp the armies but when it comes to the mystical and magical beings it may be a different story...

Consider Smaug the Mega-Hyped Dragon got frikkin' merc'd by a dude with a bow and arrow, those mystical beings might not be as strong as you think.

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@bigdumbsmartguy: Not Smaug he was a small fry compared to the other beings like Ancalagon the Black the Maiar or the Valar etc...

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I only know LOTR's from the films but from what I've seen the US wreck shop, most powerful military force in the history of the world.

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wonder how sauron would handle a nuke being dropped on his face....

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US run a shock and awe campaign all over again.

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sauron solos.

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#17  Edited By PrinceAragorn1

Either sauron solos, or they die pretty badly in open war.

@bigdumbsmartguy: Not Smaug he was a small fry compared to the other beings like Ancalagon the Black the Maiar or the Valar etc...

None of them were part of mordor's army.

Ancalagon was an elite of angband like sauron, mordor's armies have no maia, and vala are out of sauron's league.

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Sauron surrenders (like he did with the Numenorian invasion) then proceeds to corrupt the leaders of our world and takes over.

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@valzaan said:

Sauron surrenders (like he did with the Numenorian invasion) then proceeds to corrupt the leaders of our world and takes over.

He'd either be executed or put in a maximum security prison, in a way that he would have no contact with the leaders.

And that's if we don't make experiences with him to understand what he is.

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We have virus+chemical attacks that can mass murder trillions quick...

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I am pretty sure that Sauron was in a prison orginally in Numenor. Also there will at the very least be a trial, which will give him a chance to exercise his glowing rhetoric.

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@valzaan said:

I am pretty sure that Sauron was in a prison orginally in Numenor. Also there will at the very least be a trial, which will give him a chance to exercise his glowing rhetoric.

Not really. The king wanted him to be his trophy. That's how Sauron managed to corrupt him.

Since he doesn't really have a human like appearance anymore, I doubt there would be a trial. Do you think there would be a trial for the leader of an army from another universe?

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@valzaan said:

I am pretty sure that Sauron was in a prison orginally in Numenor. Also there will at the very least be a trial, which will give him a chance to exercise his glowing rhetoric.

Not really. The king wanted him to be his trophy. That's how Sauron managed to corrupt him.

Since he doesn't really have a human like appearance anymore, I doubt there would be a trial. Do you think there would be a trial for the leader of an army from another universe?

Good points. I had forgotten that Sauron is stuck in dark lord form. However, I believe that there will be a trial. Even the Nazi's had a trial. That said we do not ultimatly know how the US military would react to an "alien" invasion.

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@princearagorn1: Oh I know I was just entertaining the idea of US military vs those guys

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#28  Edited By BigDumbSmartGuy

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@bigdumbsmartguy: the sauron has High Hypersonic + he would blitz worldwide.

LOL.

Okay.

Post some proof that isn't just ripped from the VS Battles wiki and we'll talk.

VS Battles also says Samus is MFTL+ so it's not exactly a reliable source.

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Seriously? The VS Battles wiki is one of the most unreliable sources you could use in a battles thread.

Anyway, US military stomps. Sauron's magic won't be able to protect him from a nuke to the face.

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What can the forces of Mordor do against stuff like Abrams Tanks?

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#31  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

US military.

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the sauron is invisible, and create illusions in the minds of the soldiers.

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#34  Edited By incursion2
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@zeus123 said:

the sauron is invisible, and create illusions in the minds of the soldiers.

No, he isn't.

Also, even if he did do that, the US government would quickly resort to Drone strikes and blow him to kingdom come.

Sauron doesn't know what ballistics even are as a concept, he would get so rekt by the US Military it's not even funny.

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@bigdumbsmartguy:

1- yes, the sauron can be invisible

2- the sauron can not die, he is immortal.

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War ends in half an hour.

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I know little of lotr, but if sauron's saving grace is debateable invisibility, he loses. We can easily see through invis with our tech.

If he really is immortal and unkillable though then idk. If he can be incap'd then we still win though

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Pretty sure Middle-Earth has a few abstract beings.

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#40  Edited By Maverick_6

How Sauron reacts to a nuke is up in the air, but he has no real feat I know that indicates he could just take that. What thing in the lord of the rings is actually at that magnitude?

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Sauron would corrupt the leaders, but as far as military force vs military force Sauron gets wrecked

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#42 Lunacyde  Moderator

Why are people bringing up Maiar, Valar, or Dragons like they have any bearing on this battle? None of them were in Mordor's forces, and Sauron during the LotR timespan was not even able to assume corporeal form so he wouldn't be a threat either, which leaves his armies and they would be slaughtered by U.S. military forces.

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#43  Edited By USSJ3071

this is basically sauron vs USA. sauron mind controls the USA into nuking itself. he might only be an eye but i'm sure he has enough power to exert influence over the president. and nazgul are unkillable so they'd eventually find a way to win.

in the hobbit, sauron had those black magic wave things. and he was able to corrupt hosts of men into fighting for him (easterlings, harad)

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US military would destroy Saurons army in a minute, but Sauron would eventually win the war.

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@ussj3071 said:

this is basically sauron vs USA. sauron mind controls the USA into nuking itself. he might only be an eye but i'm sure he has enough power to exert influence over the president. and nazgul are unkillable so they'd eventually find a way to win.

in the hobbit, sauron had those black magic wave things. and he was able to corrupt hosts of men into fighting for him (easterlings, harad)

In order for Sauron to have any influence over the US government he would have to cross into our world, and that ain't happening anytime soon.

US stomps.

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the OP states a portal opened and thus sauron can work his corrupting influence on the generals and make them nuke themselves to hell. as long as sauron himself exists, victory for humanity is impossible. we've never faced anything like the guy

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@admiral_307: Yeah, like the time he convinced all the lords of Gondor to commit suicide... Oh.. wait... He.. didn't..

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Sauron and his forces would likely think they are being attacked by OP magical creatures. Even an average soldier would come off as a powerful wizard with the ability to point "a stick" and then you die.

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ghost army solos the world. why are people not talking about them lol?

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Mordor I guess.