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#1 Posted by TonyMartial (8840 posts) - - Show Bio

No force powers

Takes place in a generic battle arena

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#2 Posted by Warlockmage (9079 posts) - - Show Bio

well Kylo's 3 skill feats are

  1. Stalemating a Janitor (to be fair Kylo was weakened here)
  2. stalemating a girl with no real training (to be fair also weakened)
  3. losing to featless fodder

10/10 best fighter

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#3 Posted by Amcu (16278 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't recall anything in the movies that would allow Kylo to tag Steve before being disarmed. But maybe I'm wrong.

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#4 Posted by Supermanthor (16582 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve

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#5 Posted by NeloAngelo (89 posts) - - Show Bio

well Kylo's 3 skill feats are

  1. Stalemating a Janitor (to be fair Kylo was weakened here)
  2. stalemating a girl with no real training (to be fair also weakened)
  3. losing to featless fodder

10/10 best fighter

Couldn't have said it better myself, add force powers and this battle still gets censored for graphic content

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#6 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2375 posts) - - Show Bio

Straight H2H and no force? Steve stomps.

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#7 Posted by TonyMartial (8840 posts) - - Show Bio
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#8 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2375 posts) - - Show Bio

@tonymartial: Cool. Makes it a little more interesting. Raises Kylo's chances from 0% to about 20%.

I still see Cap avoiding, closing the gap and one shotting more often than not.

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#9 Posted by Discipulus (542 posts) - - Show Bio

Kylo's reflexes are being underestimated.

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#11 Posted by DeutschKurzhaar (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel like he could force choke Steve, but that’s stupid if there is no force allowed then I can see Steve disarming him and then effortlessly beating him

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#12 Posted by mrmonster (14706 posts) - - Show Bio

Kylo Ren is the weakest Sith lord ever, he gets stomped.

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#13 Posted by KingCrimson (5360 posts) - - Show Bio

Kylo cuts him in half. What the hell is this?

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#14 Posted by Discipulus (542 posts) - - Show Bio

@rebake: Impossible to say, really. But I assumed by the OP that Kylo is going to be performing as he does in TFA/TLJ, just without the use of his offensive/defensive powers (e.g. telekinesis). We may as well use a different character entirely if we're completely stripping Kylo of all access to the Force: it would place him in a situation he's never been in, even as a child before ever receiving training.

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#15 Posted by nerdchore (8125 posts) - - Show Bio

Important question is force restricted for just offensive abilities?

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#16 Edited by Kilius (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve wins even if Force augmentation is allowed. In Disney Canon, and even in a lot of Legends Canon, it's clear that peak human level warriors(and Steve is above peak human) can compete with Force users in speed and reflexes. And Steves's unarmed fighting skill is much more proven than Ren's.

Edit: Nevermind misread the OP.

Ren probably wins with his lightsaber; I was thinking both were unarmed.

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#17 Posted by Subline (7024 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain America.

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#18 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve due to having quantifiable feats

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#19 Posted by Oreoghoul (1662 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve