Unalaq vs Insane Azula

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Basically just replace Zuko with post-fusion Unalaq (no DAS)

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Well one of them has a waterspout, and the other does not...So the winner is quite obvious.

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#4  Edited By Aystarr

Idk, I don't think unalaq has enough water to make a complex waterspout in this location, Azula should win without much difficulty tbh.

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@aystarr said:

Idk, I don't think unalaq has enough water to make a complex waterspout in this location, Zuko should win without much difficulty tbh.

But aren't all of his waterspouts complex by default as post-fusion?

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Unalaq genuinely has basically no chance

If she wanted to Azula could easily vaporise all the water in the courtyard, leaving him completely defenseless. Plus even if somehow Unalaq gets the ingenuity to attempt what Katara did, there's no way Azula falls for the same trick twice

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@aystarr said:

Idk, I don't think unalaq has enough water to make a complex waterspout in this location, Azula should win without much difficulty tbh.

Unalaq would end it easier than Katara did. It could be sane Azula and Unalaq would still win.

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@geekryan said:

Well one of them has a waterspout, and the other does not...So the winner is quite obvious.

Are you trolling or is Unalaq's waterspout really that big of a deal? I feel like you're joking...🤔

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@geekryan said:

Well one of them has a waterspout, and the other does not...So the winner is quite obvious.

Are you trolling or is Unalaq's waterspout really that big of a deal? I feel like you're joking...🤔

Yes I'm trolling.

There are some who believe that Unalaq's waterspout is enough reason for him to be considered a superior waterbender than Katara.

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@geekryan said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@geekryan said:

Well one of them has a waterspout, and the other does not...So the winner is quite obvious.

Are you trolling or is Unalaq's waterspout really that big of a deal? I feel like you're joking...🤔

Yes I'm trolling.

There are some who believe that Unalaq's waterspout is enough reason for him to be considered a superior waterbender than Katara.

Is he... uh... is he actually superior? I heard he was definitely, like, top 5 non-avatar benders.

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Post fusion? Even pre fusion arguably wins...

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azula would need to make a waterspout to win this

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@alextheboss: Just to be clear this is Sozin’s Comet Azula

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@cocacolaman: That's true, though even Katara got the better of her. It really just depends what water is available and what mistakes Azula makes. But that is in regard to pre fusion, who is already red lotis tier. Post fusion without dark avatar state is weird, because I'm pretty sure he goes into dark avatar state in pretty much every encounter. I think the fight would depend on location. With a lot of water he should win, with little to no water he loses.

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@boutatakeanl: Superior than Katara? No. But yes he is in the top 5.

Unalaq’s waterspout has become a joke because a select few think he is a better waterbender than Katara for that reason alone.

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BUT but but the majority voted Unalaq so he has to be better than katara! 🥺

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@geekryan said:

@boutatakeanl: Superior than Katara? No. But yes he is in the top 5.

Unalaq’s waterspout has become a joke because a select few think he is a better waterbender than Katara for that reason alone.

Eh, from the stuff I'm seeing, he looks to be a little better than Katara, visuals-wise. That waterspout is quite a succulent move though.

On a serious note, do you think he can beat insane comet Azula?

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@boutatakeanl: unalaq had the majority vote in the thread, he’s better

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@boutatakeanl: unalaq had the majority vote in the thread, he’s better

All four that I've read look like they're trolling 🤔

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BUT but but the majority voted Unalaq so he has to be better than katara! 🥺

You literally agreed that Katara > Unalaq:

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You then got into debates with Aystarr and BigBab and then suddenly changed your mind with the stipulation that Katara would only win in an environment with less water??? And then started arguing with JDogg and Aystarr in favour of Unalaq.

As for the "majority voted"? Votes can be rigged, as I am sure you are very familiar with.

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@geekryan said:

@kataraaaa said:

BUT but but the majority voted Unalaq so he has to be better than katara! 🥺

You literally agreed that Katara > Unalaq:

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You then got into debates with Aystarr and BigBab and then suddenly changed your mind with the stipulation that Katara would only win in an environment with less water??? And then started arguing with JDogg and Aystarr in favour of Unalaq.

As for the "majority voted"? Votes can be rigged, as I am sure you are very familiar with.

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My opinion has nothing to do with the majority... majority is always right no?

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@kataraaaa said:

@boutatakeanl: unalaq had the majority vote in the thread, he’s better

All four that I've read look like they're trolling 🤔

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@boutatakeanl: Superior than Katara? No. But yes he is in the top 5.

Unalaq’s waterspout has become a joke because a select few think he is a better waterbender than Katara for that reason alone.

Eh, from the stuff I'm seeing, he looks to be a little better than Katara, visuals-wise. That waterspout is quite a succulent move though.

On a serious note, do you think he can beat insane comet Azula?

Votes can be rigged, as we have seen. You can ask Kataraaaa about that. Trolls/alts contribute to this as well.

But no, he can't beat an insane comet Azula. He doesn't have enough water here and he isn't resourceful enough to replicate what Katara did.

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#24  Edited By kataraaaa

@geekryan said:

@boutatakeanl said:
@kataraaaa said:

@boutatakeanl: unalaq had the majority vote in the thread, he’s better

All four that I've read look like they're trolling 🤔

@boutatakeanl said:
@geekryan said:

@boutatakeanl: Superior than Katara? No. But yes he is in the top 5.

Unalaq’s waterspout has become a joke because a select few think he is a better waterbender than Katara for that reason alone.

Eh, from the stuff I'm seeing, he looks to be a little better than Katara, visuals-wise. That waterspout is quite a succulent move though.

On a serious note, do you think he can beat insane comet Azula?

Votes can be rigged, as we have seen. You can ask Kataraaaa about that. Trolls/alts contribute to this as well.

But no, he can't beat an insane comet Azula. He doesn't have enough water here and he isn't resourceful enough to replicate what Katara did.

Still foaming at the mouth?

Keep coping about your 12-10 loss to me though, you should honestly be happy you were that close given how terrible your arguments were

I wonder if you ever get tired of losing

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@geekryan said:
@boutatakeanl said:
@kataraaaa said:

@boutatakeanl: unalaq had the majority vote in the thread, he’s better

All four that I've read look like they're trolling 🤔

@boutatakeanl said:
@geekryan said:

@boutatakeanl: Superior than Katara? No. But yes he is in the top 5.

Unalaq’s waterspout has become a joke because a select few think he is a better waterbender than Katara for that reason alone.

Eh, from the stuff I'm seeing, he looks to be a little better than Katara, visuals-wise. That waterspout is quite a succulent move though.

On a serious note, do you think he can beat insane comet Azula?

Votes can be rigged, as we have seen. You can ask Kataraaaa about that. Trolls/alts contribute to this as well.

But no, he can't beat an insane comet Azula. He doesn't have enough water here and he isn't resourceful enough to replicate what Katara did.

Damn I forgot it was you two that had that CaV 0_0 shid was a mess :(

Unalaq used phase-change to freeze his brother (Korra's dad or whatever), and the man is quite intelligent. And besides that he used phase-change a ton. I honestly think he'd do what Karata did WAY quicker. Besides that his defensive waterbending was solid as well. Lack of wodur is indeed a big factor, but I still think he can take it.

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@geekryan:

Votes can be rigged, as we have seen. You can ask Kataraaaa about that. Trolls/alts contribute to this as well

Wow. Finally some progress. You're starting to get it.

He doesn't have enough water here and he isn't resourceful enough to replicate what Katara did

Not resourceful enough for an environmental flash-freeze? Which is waterbending 101 and even the likes of Kya and Tonraq use it in combat? Are you even serious right now? It wasn't Katara being a genius, it was Azula being a dumbass, considering that it was her hometurf and she knew there's water under her.

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@kataraaaa: Even if you won fairly and without getting people to vote for you, I don’t feel bad at all considering I half-assed my 2nd post and fully-assed my last post 😂 I made that very clear, and it shows in my posts too. Even voters acknowledged that.

So at best, you unfairly and barely won against me when I was barely trying.

And I still maintain my 3:1 win to loss ratio.

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@geekryan said:

@kataraaaa: Even if you won fairly and without getting people to vote for you, I don’t feel bad at all considering I half-assed my 2nd post and fully-assed my last post 😂 I made that very clear, and it shows in my posts too. Even voters acknowledged that.

So at best, you unfairly and barely won against me when I was barely trying.

And I still maintain my 3:1 win to loss ratio.

Still rent free in your head a day later?

I'd half ass my posts if I was fighting a losing position too.. it's not like adding a few more paragraphs would've helped you

Your comicvine win-loss ratio is mid by the way, and you still lost to me so...

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#30  Edited By BigBaby

Damn you all are a different breed. Azula takes this.

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@cocacolaman: That's true, though even Katara got the better of her. It really just depends what water is available and what mistakes Azula makes. But that is in regard to pre fusion, who is already red lotis tier. Post fusion without dark avatar state is weird, because I'm pretty sure he goes into dark avatar state in pretty much every encounter. I think the fight would depend on location. With a lot of water he should win, with little to no water he loses.

He doesn't. The only time he did enter it was at the end of the fight with Korra when he and Korra was locked with water arms and cracking the ice they stood on.