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#1  Edited By jashro44

Ultron

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Hulk (world breaker)

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Rules

  • Ultron has one of his primary adamantium bodies
  • In character
  • Win by death/KO/Incapacitation
  • Random encounter
  • Fight takes place on an indestructible and abandoned earth

Who wins and why?

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Ultrons adamantium form has some limitations from what I read. And besides, Hulk is far too strong for Ultron. Its smashing.

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i vote ultron ftw

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Hard one, but I am closer to say Ultron...

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World breaker Hulk

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Ultron

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lots of conflicting opinions…..

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Ultron for the knockout.

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ultron. hulk is a very powerful brick. thats it. ultron has a ton of abilities

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World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

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Ultron.

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World Breaker Hulk, even if Ultron's armor's still intact, his internal won't be, especially after being punched with planet-busting force.

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World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

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@foreverevil said:

ultron. hulk is a very powerful brick. thats it. ultron has a ton of abilities

Having tons of abilties won't allow him to overcome the unlimited raw power of the Hulk.

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@foreverevil said:

ultron. hulk is a very powerful brick. thats it. ultron has a ton of abilities

Having tons of abilties won't allow him to overcome the unlimited raw power of the Hulk.

yes, actually thats EXACTLY what those extra powers will do.

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#17  Edited By green_skaar

My money would be on WBH. I seriously doubt Ultron could KO/kill him.

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@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

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@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Not sure. And how was it a dual feat? To be honest I think at the end of World War Hulk, he could have destroyed the entire planet by himself.

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Ultron's Abilites:

  • Encephalo-ray: which plunges its victims into a death-like coma, allowing Ultron to mesmerize and manipulate the minds of his victims, or implant subliminal hypnotic commands within their minds to be enacted at a later time.
  • Concussive blasters
  • Radiation emitters
  • Durability: Ultron's outer shell is usually composed of Adamantium, rendering it almost impervious to damage. However, his internal mechanisms are generally less durable and more easily damaged. Ultron's Adamantium forms have proven vulnerable to molecular rearrangement devices and the metal-destabilizing ore, known as Vibranium ("anti-metal").
  • Tractor beams
  • Limited energy absorption abilities
  • Hive-mind Technology: All Ultrons incorporate a "program transmitter" which can beam part or all of Ultron's programming into remote locations such as computers or alternate robotic bodies. Ultron can often control other machines remotely even if he has not transplanted his consciousness into them. One recent Ultron model developed the ability to animate and control hundreds of alternate Ultron bodies at the same time.
  • Superhuman Strength:

None of Ultron's abilites would really stop Hulk.

And Again....

So we know, at worldbreaker power-levels, the Hulk ( and red she-hulk) make the earth quake merely by standing and could sink continents with a footstep.

obviously there's a difference in the amount of effort put into a punch and a footstep. Punches pack way more power and proportion speed than footsteps.

Merely by clashing with Red She-hulk, WB Hulk indirectly......

A. destroyed a planet

AND

B. vaporized a guy on Silver Sufer power-level, as well as guys who rivaled Hulk at base-levels, and the Mindless ones(he even lets the guys attack him so he can amp up that much faster!!).

None of these things were even remotely the focal point of WB Hulk's attack, so they were taking the smallest effects of Hulk's(and Red She-hulk's) power, but they were still destroyed. That's just shows how insanely powerful WB Hulk is.

In a fight, when like-forces collide, 99.99 percert of that force should cancel out between the two forces. Some Marvel characters have been shown rocking and decimating universes merely by the collision of them and their opponent's power. The tiny bit of leftover force from their collsion was enough to decimate planets and universes!!!! That's just crazy powerful.

It's plain to see that worlbreaker Hulk's power is far above the average planet-busting powerhouse.

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Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Correct Hulk busting that planet was a dual feet, but considering the nature of the feat it's obvious WBH could do it on his own. It's one thing if WBH and RSH were physically attacking the planet together, they weren't, it was a side effect of their clash, which is FAR more impressive.

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@immortal777 said:

@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Not sure. And how was it a dual feat? To be honest I think at the end of World War Hulk, he could have destroyed the entire planet by himself.

It's a dual feat because the planet was destroyed from Hulk and Red She Hulks clash.

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  • Encephalo-ray: which plunges its victims into a death-like coma, allowing Ultron to mesmerize and manipulate the minds of his victims, or implant subliminal hypnotic commands within their minds to be enacted at a later time.
  • Concussive blasters = self explanatory
  • Radiation emitters = delta waves to cancel out gamma rays
  • Durability: Ultron's outer shell is usually composed of Adamantium, rendering it almost impervious to damage.
  • Tractor beams = to pull, push, or elevate. AKA incapacitation
  • Limited energy absorption abilities = More absorption of gamma rays, turning hulk into banner
  • Hive-mind Technology: All Ultrons incorporate a "program transmitter" which can beam part or all of Ultron's programming into remote locations such as computers or alternate robotic bodies. Ultron can often control other machines remotely even if he has not transplanted his consciousness into them. One recent Ultron model developed the ability to animate and control hundreds of alternate Ultron bodies at the same time = hulk is now fighting probably 100 enemies. Some of which could be Iron Man suits or any other mechanical suits in the Marvel universe.
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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@immortal777 said:

@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Not sure. And how was it a dual feat? To be honest I think at the end of World War Hulk, he could have destroyed the entire planet by himself.

It's a dual feat because the planet was destroyed from Hulk and Red She Hulks clash.

I'm aware of that but at the end of World War Hulk. I mean, just one step did this.

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And that's him holding back in Worldbreaker Mode.

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@immortal777 said:

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Correct Hulk busting that planet was a dual feet, but considering the nature of the feat it's obvious WBH could do it on his own. It's one thing if WBH and RSH were physically attacking the planet together, they weren't, it was a side effect of their clash, which is FAR more impressive.

I feel anyone who has Superman lvl strength could destroy a planet but it doesn't mean anything unless they are shown to do it. Hulk would have to destroy the planet on his own until then the one he has is a dual feat. People always want proof plan and simple if I told you I feel Orion could destroy a planet you'd B*tch and moan for proof of it even though I don't think busting planets is impressive at all.

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#28  Edited By dum529001

@immortal777 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@immortal777 said:

@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Not sure. And how was it a dual feat? To be honest I think at the end of World War Hulk, he could have destroyed the entire planet by himself.

It's a dual feat because the planet was destroyed from Hulk and Red She Hulks clash.

If the planet was destroyed from a very indirect hit, from the left over energy of a clash with both combatants in the air, which is nothing compared to the power of a direct hit, then Hulk can definitely destroy a planet by himself.

Hulk has already demonstrated Planet-busting power at base-level and lower power levels.

World breaker Hulk was shaking continents and about to break them with a couple of footsteps. He threatened to destroy earth with his slightest movements!

Hulk writer, Greg Pak, described Hulk as having a level of power where he was stronger than any mortal and most immortals who ever walked then earth.

Even Umar, Dormmamu's sister, couldn't handle the Hulk! Hulk fought Dr.strange while he was possesed by Zom, a demon who surpassed Dormammu and Umar in power! Hulk matched Sentry, the guy with the power of a million exploding suns! He took down The Avengers,The Fantstic Four and the X-men!

What is Ultron going to do? Run away crying to his mother?

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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: It's impossible man... I've tried to make it seem possible, but people just wont admit he's a planet buster and that he could replicate such feat by himself without much trouble. Past instances, statements and even a very elaborated description of the feat is still not enough for them to admit it. People ignores logic to their convenience.

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@foreverevil:

Some abilities don't matter. You don't have to list all of them just the ones that would allow him to beat The Hulk.

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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: Agreed, i've read it like 4 times. I disagree with some points but its pretty accurate overall. Why would he struggle to bust the Earth if he was already tearing it down just by walking? He could have just punched it really hard and that's it...

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@immortal777 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@immortal777 said:

@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Not sure. And how was it a dual feat? To be honest I think at the end of World War Hulk, he could have destroyed the entire planet by himself.

It's a dual feat because the planet was destroyed from Hulk and Red She Hulks clash.

I'm aware of that but at the end of World War Hulk. I mean, just one step did this.

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And that's him holding back in Worldbreaker Mode.

Yea that's nice and all but the world a lot bigger than just the US east coast if it was even that much. Hulk saying he was holding back or anyone for that matter means nothing he needs to actually show something. What was he holding back exactly the power to destroy the east coast, the US , half the world, the world, the solar system what? No one knows exactly.

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@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@immortal777 said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@immortal777 said:

@dondave said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

World-Breaker Hulk IMO would be able to take Ultron. Can the android still be conscious after a planet-busting attack and/or the atmosphere of space?

Would Hulk still be conscious from that same planet busting attack? Hulk busting a planet was a dual feat so can he even bust a planet on is own?

Not sure. And how was it a dual feat? To be honest I think at the end of World War Hulk, he could have destroyed the entire planet by himself.

It's a dual feat because the planet was destroyed from Hulk and Red She Hulks clash.

I'm aware of that but at the end of World War Hulk. I mean, just one step did this.

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And that's him holding back in Worldbreaker Mode.

Yea that's nice and all but the world a lot bigger than just the US east coast if it was even that much. Hulk saying he was holding back or anyone for that matter means nothing he needs to actually show something. What was he holding back exactly the power to destroy the east coast, the US , half the world, the world, the solar system what? No one knows exactly.

That's just a step dude. You saw what happened when he punched someone. And it's fairly evident what he can destroy: an entire world.

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hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

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@immortal777: I don't see why you are questioning hulk being a planet buster. the planet was destroyed as a result of him and red she hulk punching each other. They didn't punch the planet directly which would have done much more damage….We even see a moon crack as a result of the punch.

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hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

I fail to see why hulks statement of him holding back means nothing….It has been stated several times that hulk holds back in character. Its obvious what Greg Pak intended...

read my above comment.

Hulk weighs like at best 5 tons…

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hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

Hulk doesn't gain weigth. His mass stays the same.

His energy increase comes from his increase in speed.

And how fast is Hulk?

Hulk is light speed and greater when he really cuts loose. Its simple logic and math.

Biased People on this website like those two things, and will happily apply them, except when it involves Hulk because acknowledging Hulk for what he does and can really do makes their favorite character look ordinary.

Hulk power isn't coming from his amount of mass. he only weighs as much as a car, about ten times more than the averge human. that power is coming from the incredible speed of his muscle contractions. That's what makes Hulk mighty. That and his body has durabilty to handle the power his limbs put out.

Hulks mass doens't increase but his strength does. Hulk does't become as heavy as a mountain to move a mountain. Hulk fights giant things but doesn't overcome them by being giant. He stays the same size but his speed of his muscles movements increase as well as the durability necessary to handle it.

People don't like it but its the truth.

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Here are plenty more examples showing Hulk's power is about about his level of speed and not his mass: Hulk isn't powerful because of the amount of mass he has. It becasue of his super-speedy muscle movements. Its common sense!

Hulk can bust out several thousand of megatons of nuclear power without breaking a sweat. This alone shows that his him up to speed with any character in this thread.

Once again, we can see the Hulk's power easily dwarfs any nuclear assault that earth can muster. Here he shown ripping through a bunker designed to withstand the explosion of many thousands of megatons in magnitude. "Against the force of the gamma-energized Hulk.... it fares not well at all inincredible Hulk #177:

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First of all let me ask...

Which is greater?

A. the energy required to pull earth out its orbit of the sun

OR

B. the energy required to reverse the planet's orbit, therefore pushing back and overpowering the electromagnetic force the sun puts on the earth?

The answer is B.

If you would actually read it, this is exactly what the Hulk is shown doing in this comic scan:

Overpowering a field of energy endowed with sufficient power to change the orbit of a planet(Tales to Astonish#89)

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Hulk has the power to move a planet at baseline.

The fact that the field strength needed to be increased is proof that Hulk was contesting that kind of power.

Even so, Hulk showed power to overcome a planet's kinetic energy, which is better than overcoming the force it has while it's just sitting there in its static state.

It takes 632 quadrillion 850 trillion megatons(6.3285*10^17) just to stop the earth's orbit. Hulk overpowered energy that could not only stop a planet's orbit but reverse it as well, which means Hulk was able to put out even more power than that.

The gravitational binding energy of earth is 224 nontillion joules(224,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000). There is 4 quadrillion 184 trillion joules per megaton(1 Mt = 4,184,000,000,000,000 J). Therefore, it takes 53 quadrillion 537 trillion 285 billion megatons to smash earth to smithereens(5.3537285*10^16). That's as much energy as the sun produces in a week! According to what Hulk has shown, Hulk can also destroy a planet at his baseline power level.

Do you know how fast a 1 ton object has to move to put out energy equal to earth's orbital energy?

Since it takes 632 quadrillion 850 trillion megatons or 2 decillion 700 nontillion joules(2.7*10^33)to stop earth's orbit then we just need input 1 ton as our mass value and solve for the speed.

2.7*10^33 Joules=½(1000 kg)(X meters per second)^2

2.7*10^33 Joules/500= 5.4*10^30 = 5,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (dividing)

X^2= 5,400,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (find the square root of 5 nontillion 400 octillion)

X=2,323,790,000,000,000 m/s (the value of X found!!!)

That's 2 quadrillion 323 trillion 790 billion meters per second!

The speed of light is 299,792,458 m/s. So how much faster than light is a 1 ton object with earth's orbital energy?

2,323,790,000,000,000 meters per second/299,792,458 meters per second=7,751,329.08781

That's 7 million 751 thousand 329 times faster than the speed of light(with some decimal points)!! An incredible speed!

Since the arm is only 6 percent of the body's mass the real speed would be:

6% of 1000 kg= 60 kg

2.7*10^33 Joules=½(60 kg)(X meters per second)^2

2.7*10^33 Joules/30=9*10^31= 90,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (dividing)

X^2= 90,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (find the square root of 90 nontillion)

X= 9.486833*10^15= 9,486,833,000,000,000 m/s(the value of X found!!!)

That's 9 quadrillion 486 trillion 833 billion meters per second.

9,486,833,000,000,000 meters per second/299,792,458 meters pers second= 31644668.6594

That's 31 million 644 thousand 668 times the speed of light!(with decimal points) An incredible display of Hulk's superhuman speed.

At a second meeting years later, The Stranger recognize that Hulk was even stronger than before because once again, Hulk shrugs off the energy that the Stranger uses in an attempt to render him motionless inMarvel Two-In-One annual #2:

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Here's Hulk doing a feat of great cosmic proportions once again:

Applying force to the space-time structure itself to prevent the Defenders from being absorbed into a fissure(Defenders#3)(with the size of the singularity estimated in about seven feets according to the Schwarzschild radius, then it's mass/gravitational attraction, by the equivalence principle, is thus equivalent to roughly two hundreds Earths),

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Hulk matches power and withstands attacks from Galaxy Master, a foe with planet-splitting power, not once but twice! inincredible Hulk #112and incredible Hulk #270:

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Savage Hulk vs Galaxy Master, from Incredible Hulk #112:

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Savage Hulk vs Galaxy Master rematch, from Incredible Hulk #270:

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One of the Hulk's sons, Hiro-Kala, has the power to throw a planet at the earth with planet-busting force with the use of two power sources known as the "old-power" and "new-power" but the Hulk resists his power inIncredible Hulks #615-16:

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World War Hulk vs Hiro Kala, from Incredible Hulks #615-16:

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Here's the Whole Scene of Hulk Pushing apart the two Spheres of Matter and Anti-matter (Marvel Team-Up Annual#2):

This feat involving matter and anti matter is akin to the "irresistible force meets the immovable object".

Anti-matter electrons are on opposite spin from normal matter's electrons and when they collide they start destroy each other and those forces of atomic destruction are converted into energy, the matter and antimatter being destroyed in the process.

It would take unending amounts of energy to stop the energy conversion, because matter and antimatter don't stop bashing each other once they come into contact. To stop the release of energy you'd need irrestible resistance forces.

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And any such notion that the Gray Hulk can never achieve the heights of other Hulks' strength levels should be dismissed in the face of the following infamous feat. Launched by experimental anti-magnetic jet-propelled rocket springs, the Gray Hulk busts apart an asteroid measured to be TWICE the size of the Earth in Marvel Comics Presents #52:

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Gray Hulk definitely does not lack in striking power as he manages to best the Abomination. "On paper, the Abomination may, technically, be the more powerfulof the two. The [Gray] Hulk never read those papers." From Incredible Hulk Annual #15:

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Without any sort of leverage against Glorian's bands, a power reality warper, Gray Hulk still musters enough strength to break free in Incredible Hulk #355:

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When push comes to shove, the Gray Hulk is more than capable of wrestling Wonder Man toe-to-toe in Hulk Smash Avengers#4:

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Hulk causes earthquakes around the world through the force of the punches he exhanges with a couple of gamma-empowered boars in Incredible #1-3:

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A single thunderclap shreds an entire battalion of tanks with force of "near nuclear proportions" in Tales to Astonish #67:

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Savage Hulk has wracked Hyperion with a single thunderclap -- that also reverberates for blocks and shatters Dr. Spectrum's prism in Defenders#4:

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The power of gamma rays on full display here as the Hulk's "gamma-spawned might" can also give light to an "eons-dark cosmos" in Incredible Hulk #126:

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The seismic activity produced by Hulk's casual strikes and clashes between other powerhouses are equal to several megatons since they shown around the "9.0" mark on the ritcter scale.

Approximate MagnitudeApproximate TNT for
Seismic Energy Yield
Joule equivalentExample
0.015 g63
0.230 g130 kJLarge hand grenade
0.585 g360 kJ
1.0480 g2.0 MJ
1.21.1 kg4.9 MJSingle stick of dynamite [DynoMax Pro]
1.42.2 kg9.8 MJSeismic impact of typical small construction blast
1.52.7 kg11 MJ
2.015 kg63 MJ
2.121 kg89 MJWest fertilizer plant explosion[21]
2.585 kg360 MJ
3.0480 kg2.0 GJ
3.52.7 metric tons11 GJPEPCON fuel plant explosion, Henderson, Nevada, 1988

Dallas, Texas earthquake, September 30, 2012

3.879.5 metric tons40 GJExplosion at Chernobyl nuclear power plant, 1986
3.9111 metric tons46 GJMassive Ordnance Air Blast bomb

St. Patrick's Day earthquake, Auckland, New Zealand, 2013[22][23]

4.015 metric tons63 GJMaine/New England, October 16, 2012
4.343 metric tons180 GJKent Earthquake (Britain), 2007

Eastern Kentucky earthquake, November 2012

5.0480 metric tons2.0 TJLincolnshire earthquake (UK), 2008

Ontario-Quebec earthquake (Canada), 2010[24][25]

5.52.7 kilotons11 TJLittle Skull Mtn. earthquake (Nevada, USA), 1992

Oklahoma City bombing, 1995 Alum Rock earthquake (California), 2007
Chino Hills earthquake (Southern California), 2008

5.63.8 kilotons16 TJNewcastle, Australia, 1989

Oklahoma, 2011
Pernik, Bulgaria, 2012

6.015 kilotons63 TJDouble Spring Flat earthquake (Nevada, USA), 1994

Approximate magnitude of Virginia/Washington, D.C./East Coastearthquake, 2011
Approximate yield of the Little Boy Atomic Bomb dropped onHiroshima (~16 kt)

6.343 kilotons180 TJRhodes earthquake (Greece), 2008

Jericho earthquake (British Palestine), 1927
Christchurch earthquake (New Zealand), 2011

6.460 kilotons250 TJKaohsiung earthquake (Taiwan), 2010

Vancouver earthquake (Canada), 2011

6.585 kilotons360 TJCaracas earthquake (Venezuela), 1967

Irpinia earthquake (Italy), 1980
Eureka earthquake (California, USA), 2010
Zumpango del Rio earthquake (Guerrero, Mexico), 2011[26]

6.6120 kilotons500 TJSan Fernando earthquake (California, USA), 1971
6.7170 kilotons710 TJNorthridge earthquake (California, USA), 1994
6.8240 kilotons1.0 PJNisqually earthquake (Anderson Island, WA), 2001

Great Hanshin earthquake (Kobe, Japan), 1995
Gisborne earthquake (Gisborne, NZ), 2007

6.9340 kilotons1.4 PJSan Francisco Bay Area earthquake (California, USA), 1989

Pichilemu earthquake (Chile), 2010
Sikkim earthquake (Nepal-India Border), 2011

7.0480 kilotons2.0 PJJava earthquake (Indonesia), 2009

Haiti earthquake, 2010

7.1680 kilotons2.8 PJMessina earthquake (Italy), 1908

San Juan earthquake (Argentina), 1944
Canterbury earthquake (New Zealand), 2010

7.2950 kilotons4.0 PJVrancea earthquake (Romania), 1977

1980 Azores Islands Earthquake
Baja California earthquake (Mexico), 2010

7.52.7 megatons11 PJKashmir earthquake (Pakistan), 2005

Antofagasta earthquake (Chile), 2007

7.63.8 megatons16 PJNicoya earthquake (Costa Rica), 2012

Oaxaca earthquake (Mexico), 2012
Gujarat earthquake (India), 2001
İzmit earthquake (Turkey), 1999
Jiji earthquake (Taiwan), 1999

7.75.4 megatons22 PJSumatra earthquake (Indonesia), 2010

Haida Gwaii earthquake (Canada), 2012

7.87.6 megatons32 PJTangshan earthquake (China), 1976

Hawke's Bay earthquake (New Zealand), 1931
Luzon earthquake (Philippines), 1990

7.910-15 megatons42-63 PJTunguska event
1802 Vrancea earthquake

Great Kanto earthquake (Japan), 1923

8.015 megatons63 PJMino-Owari earthquake (Japan), 1891

San Juan earthquake (Argentina), 1894
San Francisco earthquake (California, USA), 1906
Queen Charlotte Islands earthquake (B.C., Canada), 1949
Chincha Alta earthquake (Peru), 2007
Sichuan earthquake (China), 2008
Kangra earthquake, 1905

8.121 megatons89 PJMéxico City earthquake (Mexico), 1985

Guam earthquake, August 8, 1993[27]

8.3550 megatons210 PJTsar Bomba - Largest thermonuclear weapon ever tested
8.585 megatons360 PJSumatra earthquake (Indonesia), 2007
8.6120 megatons500 PJSumatra earthquake (Indonesia), 2012
8.7170 megatons710 PJSumatra earthquake (Indonesia), 2005
8.75200 megatons840 PJKrakatoa 1883
8.8240 megatons1.0 EJChile earthquake, 2010,
9.0480 megatons2.0 EJLisbon earthquake (Portugal), All Saints Day, 1755
The Great Japan earthquake, March 2011
9.15800 megatons3.3 EJToba eruption 75,000 years ago; among the largest known volcanic events.[28]
9.2950 megatons4.0 EJAnchorage earthquake (Alaska, USA), 1964
Sumatra-Andaman earthquake and tsunami (Indonesia), 2004
9.52.7 gigatons11 EJValdivia earthquake (Chile), 1960
10.015 gigatons63 EJNever recorded, equivalent to an earthquake rupturing a very large, lengthy fault, or an extremely rare/impossible mega-earthquake, shown in science fiction[clarification needed]
12.55100 teratons420 ZJYucatán Peninsula impact (creating Chicxulub crater) 65 Ma ago (108megatons; over 4x1030 ergs = 400 ZJ).[29][30][31][32][33]
22.88 or 32310 yottatons1.3×1039 JApproximate magnitude of the starquake on the magnetarSGR 1806-20, registered on December 27, 2004.[clarification needed]

While they can be localized, most of the time Savage Hulk's shockwaves are catastrophic in nature. Here the shockwaves are registered by seismologists in Incredible Hulk #147:

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A double-fist pound's shockwave rumbles the Rainbow Bridge enough to toss aside Heimdall in Tales to Astonish #101:

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He's destroyed an entire subterranean city with the shockwaves produced by a single blow in Incredible Hulk #127:

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His double-fist pounds have caused volcanic eruptions in Incredible Hulk #117 and 170:

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Once again, here's another good example of Hulk's great striking power in Incredible Hulk #118:

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Even while in upstate New York, his shockwaves are felt instantly miles away in Maine in Incredible Hulk Annual 2001:

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A single footstomp's "shockwave causes devastation for miles" in Incredible Hulk Annual 2001:

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Another double-fist pound sends shockwaves rippling across a town in Deadpool vol.5 #39:

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He punches a platform underneath a gigantic Wendigo and Bi-Beast so hard, he sends them to outer space in Incredible Hulks#631:

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Savage Hulk clashes with Hyperion and the shockwaves they radiate are felt "countless miles away, [as] geologists look to their seismographs -- then shake their heads in disbelief." From Defenders #13:

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But Savage Hulk can wreak even greater havoc solo. Here, Savage Hulk's double-fist pound in Colorado creates shockwaves that are felt all the way out inDenmark, from Incredible Hulk Annual #5:

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Here, he tears open the side of a mountain base in Incredible Hulk vol.2 #64:

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And Hulk has also opened a fissure in the earth in Incredible Hulk #130-135:

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And he's also stopped and close a rift using only his hands in incredible Hulk #203:

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Hulk can punch through doors made to handle a nuclear strike:

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Hulk punches right through a mountain busting warhead:

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Hulk's superhuman reaction speed & long distance travel speed.

Okay, first of all, Hulk is not slow. He may not be agile and skilled fighter(some of the time), but he is not slow at all. He's extremey fast.

To suggest that Spider-man, Daredevil, Wolverine, or someone other than a top tier powerhouse is as fast or faster than the Hulk is ludicrous.

Bullet dodging does not automatically mean you have bullet speed. The way you dodged it does matter.

The point is that dodging and such is not always about raw speed. Again, the way you dodge actually does matter.

A. Spider-man has early-warning thanks to his spider-sense and dodges the aim of his opponent strikes just before they fire and reach anywhere near full-speed since most of the times what he doges is too fast for him to out-race by either the speed at which he extends his limbs to make a strike of his own or flies forward like rocket.

Wolverine can do the same to missles that fly at him close enough (without the spider-sense), placing himslef in posistion to slash a missile, without moving his arm or body at missle-speed.

Dodging or diving into the aim of a projectle in the moment before its aim is right on its target does not mean your moving as fast as the object fired. Moving the moment just before the shot is fired is not about raw speed. Its just about being a step ahead of the opponent.

Being able to move your body in the same moment the projectile is already trained on its target and firing(or after its been fired) and be able to make it in time, is a true feat of speed.

When Hulk and Thor dodge and block super-fast projectiles, they do it with pure speed.

Hulk and Thor's bodily energy is on the level of a star or greater. The sun of our solar system is 333,000 times more massive than earth and every particle of it is jumping around at the speed of light. the sun even travels around the galaxy at 225 kilometers per second, which is Mach 661(661 times the speed of sound). Hulk and Thor are not anywhere near as massive. Can you imagine how fast they are? Can you imagine how fast their muscles contract? It would have to be at light-speed or greater.

These guys are living atomic-bombs taken to the extreme!!! Muscular systems that contract with the power of nukes!

In an all out fight, unless you have the power to move with the speed of a nuclear explosion, which is light-speed or faster, you don't have chance of keeping pace with characters like Hulk and Thor through pure speed.

"Power" is how quickly you can move an object over a distance, the rate at which you do "work". P= w/t

"Work" is exerting force on an object and moving it over a distance. W= F x d

"Force" is mass multipled by an objects rate of motion. F= m x a

B. And Spider-man catching missles with his web doesn't count as a speed feat for Spider-man

Spider-man used webbing. Doesn't count as a speed feat for Spider-man himself since Spider-man's body does not move at the same rate as his webbing. That's why he has to use webbing for that kind of thing(catching missles). Spider-man's body doesn't move at anywhere near missile-speed.

Spider-man's reaction time is good but it is certainly not missile-speed.

And so Thor and Hulk are just a very fast guys and do not have to rely on agility and fighting skill to dodge and block super-fast projectiles.

As for the Hulk while in battles....

Hulk has never said: "Oh, they're too fast for me! The Hulk has, however, expressed annoyance over cowardly hit-and-run tactics. Jumping within range to attack and then jumping out of range.

And keep in mind Hulk doesn't fight lower-level characters the same way he fights characrters on his power-level like Abomination, Thor, Hercules, Silvers Surfer, Jueggernaut, Hyperion, Sentry, etc.

When Hulk and Thor engage characters on the level of Spider-man, Wolverine and Thing , the punches they throw won't be same. The mere secondary air-shockwaves coming from a serious Hulk-punch/Thor-punch would be enough to kill those guys(like the secondary super-sonic shockwaves from nuclear explosions). Hulk and Thor wouldn't even have to make anywhere close to a direct hit in order to kill them. The secondary shockwave of an atomic bomb starts at about 184 Km/s or Mach 540!

Hulk also lets himself get hit all the time because he's extremely tough in the first place and any apparent damage he may isn't permanent kind and won't destroy him and he becomes stronger according the strain of combat.

As for long distance travel speed......

Hulk super-powered muscles allow him to run and jump at speeds far greater than the finest human athlete.

His speed is limited by the strength of the ground. Once he reaches a certain speed his legs punch through and the destroy the ground around him which gives him no friction to run on.

Making tremedous jumps in orderto travel overcome this limitation partially but even with jumping he is similarly limited in long distance travel speed due to the overwhelming pressure his full strength puts on the ground.

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It would be perfectly reasonable to assume that a 8' tall, 1000+ lbs. monster would be a slow lumbering beast. However, from the beginning, Savage Hulk has always possessed superhuman speed belying his enormous size. His feats of agility and speed are typically accompanied by these sorts of descriptions, "Suddenly, moving with blinding speed which, seems impossible for one so huge..." FromIncredible Hulk #4:

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The same happens when he fights the Fantastic Four, "Moving with unbelievable speed for one so huge..." From Fantastic Four#12:

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Later on when wrapped up by Mr. Fantastic, he escapes by spinning around like a tornado:

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In his rematch with Thing he once again begins "moving with surprising speed for one so huge..." inFantastic Four #25:

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He even ends up catching a fired artillery shell and "without stopping, in one smooth, continuous motion, he spins around, using the momentum of the hurtling shell to help propel his giant frame... he releases it" in Fantastic Four #26:

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Special weapons and tactics squads try firing bazookas at Savage Hulk "but unfortunately, that 'somethin' isn't quite as fast as the Hulk!" From Iron Man #131:

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He's snatched rockets and missiles out of the air in Giant-Size Defenders #2, Incredible Hulk #245 and Incredible Hulk vol.2 #101:

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Savage Hulk has even batted artillery shells in Incredible Hulk #208:

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And caught a S.H.I.E.L.D hovercar in incredible hulk #298:

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Here he thwarts a crowd of minions, "moving with uncanny speed for one so huge, the green behemoth suddenly tears up an entire section of the stone floor" inTales to Astonish #76:

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Savage Hulk confronts a barrage of artillery, "[m]oving with lumbering speed that belies his massive frame, the awesome Hulk thunders toward a gigantic boulder, a hundred feet away" inTales to Astonish#82:

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He has been described as having "lightning-fast reflexes" in Marvel Feature #3 and Incredible Hulk#276:

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Comet Man is amazed, "How can he be that big and move so fast?!" From Comet Man #3:

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And His speed is remarked upon by his fellow Avengers as well in incredible Hulk #316:

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Savage Hulk grabs his enemy "with a swiftness that defies belief!" From Incredible Hulk #264:

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The Mandarin notes Hulk's incredible reflexes well in Incredible Hulk #107:

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Doctor Doom is quick to note, "you are far more agile than I anticipated from one of your size!" FromIncredible Hulk #144:

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Even the amazing Spider-Man throughout his career can only evade Savage Hulk for so long as shown early on in Amazing Spider-Man #120, and later on inPeter Parker: Spider-Man#14:

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He can actually perform surprisingly agile swordplay in Incredible Hulk vol.2 #92:

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A point-blank ambush by Wolverine is deftly blocked by Savage Hulk in Wolverine Origins #28:

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Savage Hulk is one of the few people who's easily snatched Cap's shield throw, from Avengers vol.3 #75:

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And just as easily, Joe Fixit-Hulk bats down tanks shells and catches Hawkeye's arrows and Spiderman's webbing in The Order #1, Hulk Smash Avengers #4 and Incredible Hulk #349:

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Hulk smacks down projectiles from the Villain Boomerang before they could even explode in incredible hulk #274:

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Speedsters like Quicksilver and Bluestreak get swatted away in Incredible Hulk #175, The Order #3, Last Hero standing vol 1. #1-5, and Incredible Hulk #369:

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He even smacks down Peitro(Quicksilver) when he is possessed by a god in Mighty Avengers #23:

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Savage Hulk confronts a barrage of artillery, "[m]oving with lumbering speed that belies his massive frame, the awesome Hulk thunders toward a gigantic boulder, a hundred feet away" inTales to Astonish#82:

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Hulk runs down and catches two soldiers wore armor (similar to Iron-Man) developed by Tony Stark and U.S. Armed Forces inMarvel Salutes the US Military #1-10:

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One of Savage Hulk's most defining characteristics is his ability to make gargantuan leaps that cross miles, from Incredible Hulk#3&6 and Tales to Astonish #66 & 67, incredible Hulk #272-273, #274:

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Which isn't surprising considering he's been measured at 473 mph in Incredible Hulk Annual 2000:

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While tracking Savage Hulk's movement across the United States, Black Panther notes that he'll be in California in mere hours inIncredible Hulk#128:

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He travels faster than jetliners and has crossed the China sea here in Incredible Hulk #5:

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Even more than that, he has crossed the entire Pacific Ocean by jumping from isle to isle in Tales to Astonish #68:

The pacific ocean is 8,637 miles from north to south and 1,100 miles from east to west. Hulk shows he can jump thousands of miles in a single bound.

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Which may seem nonsensical but his transcontinental leaping abilities reappear in Incredible Hulk vol.2 #24:

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And these leaps only require "scarcely more than a twitch" of his muscles in Incredible Hulk #314:

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A Wakandan experiences this firsthand noting, "Bruce jumped nearly a mile up into the sky, at an angle that, once it decayed -- would bring him down hundreds of miles from where we left mere seconds before!"Which is topped by another leap that covered "nearly a thousand miles this time" in Incredible Hulk vol.2 #33:

100 miles per second is mach 472. 1000 miles per second is mach 4,792. 1 mach is equal to he speed of sound. Hulk jumped going hundreds and thousands of times the speed of sound with ease.

Hulk has been shown to easily jump vertically at a speed of mach 24, earth's escape velocity, which is the same as 18,000 miles per hour or 5 miles per second. By the time Hulk had traveled 1 mile vertically he had also traveled 1000 miles horizontally, all in the time of 1 second or a fraction of a second.

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He can overtake a fighter jet with a leap "like it was standin still" in Incredible Hulk #206 and 258:

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He's caught up to missiles with his leaps in Tales to Astonish #61 and incredible hulk #5:

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And intercontinental rockets in Incredible Hulk #117:

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And aircrafts in Incredible Hulk 157-158, incredible hulk #298 and incredible #Hulk 409:

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Savage Hulk makes it to the top of Mount Olympus in a single leap in Hulk Vs Hercules: When Titans Collide #1:

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The Hulk leaps to escape velocity,into outer space in Incredible Hulk #254 and Incredible Hulk Annual#10:

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"For an object to escape the earths atmoshphere, it must have an initial velocity of Mach 34. Reference:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escape_velocity. For Hulk to perform such a feat, his legs would have to accelerate and propel someone of his weight, which is approximately 2000 pounds, at even greater speeds than so. It is absolutely impossible for the Hulk to perform a feat with strength without the proportional acceration of an object (his body) as well." source (SlimJ87D

Hulk rushes the police in Incredible Hulk #206-207:

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Jack of Hearts remarks, "It's impossible! Nothing alive can move that fast!" From Incredible Hulk #214:

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And again, Hulk frequently uses his super-leaps to very quickly close the distance between him and his foes as shown Inincredible Hulk in #117 and mostly of every Hulk comic:

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Hulk is also a good swimmer. it has been noted that he can swim at a speed of 80 knots which is over 90 mph. From Incredible Hulk vol.2 #33:

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He's even battled Namor many times in the deepest parts of the ocean incredible Hulk #118:

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@foreverevil said:

hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

I fail to see why hulks statement of him holding back means nothing….It has been stated several times that hulk holds back in character. Its obvious what Greg Pak intended...

read my above comment.

Hulk weighs like at best 5 tons…

well im just playing by the rules marvel fans have placed. they say character statements dont mean anything. So then hulks statements of holding back dont mean anything. his weight is wrong. either that or CIS took place. he didnt strike the floor. apparently he just took a footstep is what marvel fans tell me, so then that means he's just a fatty that weighs alot and broke the eastern seaboard. now if he punched or kicked then it'd be a strength feat. but its not. its just a weight feat. he weighs alot...i get it.

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@foreverevil said:

hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

I fail to see why hulks statement of him holding back means nothing….It has been stated several times that hulk holds back in character. Its obvious what Greg Pak intended...

read my above comment.

Hulk weighs like at best 5 tons…

well im just playing by the rules marvel fans have placed. they say character statements dont mean anything. So then hulks statements of holding back dont mean anything. his weight is wrong. either that or CIS took place. he didnt strike the floor. apparently he just took a footstep is what marvel fans tell me, so then that means he's just a fatty that weighs alot and broke the eastern seaboard. now if he punched or kicked then it'd be a strength feat. but its not. its just a weight feat. he weighs alot...i get it.

Character statements don't mean anything when we have so and so saying things like "i can bust a moon with one punch" but when it comes to a summary of what happened like "I didn't go full out", then its not really the same thing. As for hulk busting the eastern seaboards it could be because of the radiation he was emitting. A lot of people don't realize this but world breaker hulk emits energy and does have a degree of energy projection.

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I get so happy when I read Hulk fans saying Hulk has light speed. Thank you for that :)

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Judging by comments over the last month I'm quite positive one of the most vocal Hulk critics in this thread has read close to none or zero Hulk comics. Keep that in mind when replying to him.

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@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil said:

hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

I fail to see why hulks statement of him holding back means nothing….It has been stated several times that hulk holds back in character. Its obvious what Greg Pak intended...

read my above comment.

Hulk weighs like at best 5 tons…

well im just playing by the rules marvel fans have placed. they say character statements dont mean anything. So then hulks statements of holding back dont mean anything. his weight is wrong. either that or CIS took place. he didnt strike the floor. apparently he just took a footstep is what marvel fans tell me, so then that means he's just a fatty that weighs alot and broke the eastern seaboard. now if he punched or kicked then it'd be a strength feat. but its not. its just a weight feat. he weighs alot...i get it.

Character statements don't mean anything when we have so and so saying things like "i can bust a moon with one punch" but when it comes to a summary of what happened like "I didn't go full out", then its not really the same thing. As for hulk busting the eastern seaboards it could be because of the radiation he was emitting. A lot of people don't realize this but world breaker hulk emits energy and does have a degree of energy projection.

i can work with that. Thats really the only thing that makes sense since it wasnt a strength feat. I'll use that now. Him breaking the seaboard had to have been because of the gamma radiation he emmited. People need to stop saying that as if its a stength feat though. Oh and lastly character statements are just that dude. we cant trust them.

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@foreverevil: We can trust statements of what characters did….Its when a character says they can do something that they haven't done we can't trust it (for example if hulk said he can destroy the universe then we couldn't trust it). As I said it is obvious what Greg Pak intended. Hulk was holding back in the eastern sea board instance. This is not debatable.

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#46  Edited By dum529001

@foreverevil said:

@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil said:

hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

I fail to see why hulks statement of him holding back means nothing….It has been stated several times that hulk holds back in character. Its obvious what Greg Pak intended...

read my above comment.

Hulk weighs like at best 5 tons…

well im just playing by the rules marvel fans have placed. they say character statements dont mean anything. So then hulks statements of holding back dont mean anything. his weight is wrong. either that or CIS took place. he didnt strike the floor. apparently he just took a footstep is what marvel fans tell me, so then that means he's just a fatty that weighs alot and broke the eastern seaboard. now if he punched or kicked then it'd be a strength feat. but its not. its just a weight feat. he weighs alot...i get it.

Character statements don't mean anything when we have so and so saying things like "i can bust a moon with one punch" but when it comes to a summary of what happened like "I didn't go full out", then its not really the same thing. As for hulk busting the eastern seaboards it could be because of the radiation he was emitting. A lot of people don't realize this but world breaker hulk emits energy and does have a degree of energy projection.

i can work with that. Thats really the only thing that makes sense since it wasnt a strength feat. I'll use that now. Him breaking the seaboard had to have been because of the gamma radiation he emmited. People need to stop saying that as if its a stength feat though. Oh and lastly character statements are just that dude. we cant trust them.

Hulk's strength is gamma energy, also known as nuclear power, which is the power to split atoms and the power that comes from doing so as well. The same nuclear power he puts outs when he punches seriously.

Hulk normally has to strike to shake or level continents. The fact that Hulk was doing it with footsteps means his gamma energy was very very high.

Hulk has already showed the power to destroy a planet with a punch. World breaker Hulk was about to do it by taking a walk.

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#47  Edited By ForeverEvil

@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil: We can trust statements of what characters did….Its when a character says they can do something that they haven't done we can't trust it (for example if hulk said he can destroy the universe then we couldn't trust it). As I said it is obvious what Greg Pak intended. Hulk was holding back in the eastern sea board instance. This is not debatable.

ok, im listening. why is it not debatable? and we need to get back on track. we unintentionally derailed this thread. Who wins, is the question

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@foreverevil said:

@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil said:

@jashro44 said:

@foreverevil said:

hulk was holding back = ok show where the writer said it. character statements dont mean jack

Hulk is a planet buster = it took 2 people for that planet to bust. show hulk doing it by himself

hulks foot step destroyed the easter seaboard = he's just a fat bastard. if he didnt strike down then its not a strength feat its a weight feat. he is so fat that he crushed the damn easter seaboard. that boy needs weight watchers. somebody call jenny craig !

I fail to see why hulks statement of him holding back means nothing….It has been stated several times that hulk holds back in character. Its obvious what Greg Pak intended...

read my above comment.

Hulk weighs like at best 5 tons…

well im just playing by the rules marvel fans have placed. they say character statements dont mean anything. So then hulks statements of holding back dont mean anything. his weight is wrong. either that or CIS took place. he didnt strike the floor. apparently he just took a footstep is what marvel fans tell me, so then that means he's just a fatty that weighs alot and broke the eastern seaboard. now if he punched or kicked then it'd be a strength feat. but its not. its just a weight feat. he weighs alot...i get it.

Character statements don't mean anything when we have so and so saying things like "i can bust a moon with one punch" but when it comes to a summary of what happened like "I didn't go full out", then its not really the same thing. As for hulk busting the eastern seaboards it could be because of the radiation he was emitting. A lot of people don't realize this but world breaker hulk emits energy and does have a degree of energy projection.

i can work with that. Thats really the only thing that makes sense since it wasnt a strength feat. I'll use that now. Him breaking the seaboard had to have been because of the gamma radiation he emmited. People need to stop saying that as if its a stength feat though. Oh and lastly character statements are just that dude. we cant trust them.

Hulk's strength is gamma energy, also known as nuclear power, which is the power to split atoms and the power that comes from doing so as well. The same nuclear power he puts outs when he punches seriously.

Hulk normally has to strike to shake or level continents. The fact that Hulk was doing it with footsteps means his gamma energy was very very high.

Hulk has already showed the power to destroy a planet with a punch. World breaker Hulk was about to do it by taking a walk.

actually gamma radiation is a part of light just like ultra violet rays, xrays, and microwaves.

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@jashro44 said:

@immortal777: I don't see why you are questioning hulk being a planet buster. the planet was destroyed as a result of him and red she hulk punching each other. They didn't punch the planet directly which would have done much more damage….We even see a moon crack as a result of the punch.

I didn't say Hulk didn't destroy the planet, I said it was a dual feat which it was a dual feat. I'm asking if there is on panel proof of Hulk destroying a planet ON HIS OWNnot people feeling that he can or characters saying he can. I can't have questions and dissect the answers given to me? It's how I learn about characters without having to read every single issue there in since I don't read from one company like a lot of other people do. I out right said I feel anyone with Superman lvl stats should be able to destroy worlds.

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@jashro44 said:

@immortal777: I don't see why you are questioning hulk being a planet buster. the planet was destroyed as a result of him and red she hulk punching each other. They didn't punch the planet directly which would have done much more damage….We even see a moon crack as a result of the punch.

I didn't say Hulk didn't destroy the planet, I said it was a dual feat which it was a dual feat. I'm asking if there is on panel proof of Hulk destroying a planet ON HIS OWNnot people feeling that he can or characters saying he can. I can't have questions and dissect the answers given to me? It's how I learn about characters without having to read every single issue there in since I don't read from one company like a lot of other people do. I out right said I feel anyone with Superman lvl stats should be able to destroy worlds.

i think superman can fly thru a planet and destroy it because he flew thru a moon and disintegrated it into powder but i cant say supes is a planet buster cause i havnt see it. same thing applies here. he and another character produced the energy that destroyed a planet. hulk has NOT destroyed a planet. so until that happens we cant call hulk a planetbuster....PS. I think Hulk DOES have the strength to destroy planets.