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@mr-luxcipher: Very good post. Even if apoc becomes stronger. He hasn't shown strength above Hulk or Thor. They could only dent adamantium. So Apoc would have to be many times more powerful then them to destroy it.

A few extra points:

1) When Torch fried his circuits that was an older model of Ultron. That didn't have forcefields. Also Apoc doesn't have heat powers like Torch.

2) When Apocalypse restrained Hulk, Hulk was weakened by being the nexus of two universes. He was not at full strength and he couldn't amp his strength.

3) When Hulk tore off Ultrons arm it was a lifeless shell. It was an unknown version made of unknown material. That Ultron was unable to fight back, use forcefields or defend itself. In fact, a blog was made explaining why the feat was pis. Regardless in this battle Ultron will be fighting back.

http://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/doc-green-ripping-ultron-s-arm-incredible-pis-1636804/

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Ultron still wins easily.

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Apocalypse for the WIN he is highly underrated bc Everyone always says he is limited to the X-men and he looses as if they are push overs. Lol you have omega level mutants plural fighting him all at one time characters such as Jean Grey ,Magneto, Professor X, Strom hell other times cable and plenty others! Now just to explain how strong these Omega Level Mutants are lets look at Magneto for exp 1. He has single handedly fought and defeated the entire Avengers team at once people such as Thor, Vision, Scarlet Witch AKA his daughter who at One time killed off all mutants and has created a Pocket Universe did i mention he WON lol he is OP af on a day to day basis being able to create force fields strong enough to withstand blast from Thanos and able to literally move the planet now lets move to exp 2. Jean Grey who carries the Cosmic power of the Phoenix Force an entity strong enough to fight Thanos while he has The Infinity Gauntlet and win Damn... Now that sounds like he has to fight some pretty heavy hitters not to mention Apocalypse has fought against the Inhumans and xmen at the same time! Also won in battles against power houses such as Thor, Black bolt Who's scream can destroy planets but it didn't injure Apocalypse, and has even bested The Incredible Hulk! He has full control over his body on a molecular structure not only can he increase or shrink his body size but can increase the mass and density meaning he can become more durable then beings such as Colossus or The Incredible Hulk he can create force fields strong enough to keep the Phoenix Force at Bay he can teleport across the planet absorb energy blast similar to Bishop but with no known limit he is a very strong telepath rivaling the powers Professor X, Jean Grey and Emma Frost the writer of apocalypse practically gave him every Power imaginable. No way Ultro wins!

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Ultron stomps.

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Ultron.

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#157  Edited By mega6382

ultron

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Ultron destroys.

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Since when did Ultron become this strong. Apocalypse destroys

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Ultron.

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Ultron IMO.

TP is useless against him. Apoc also can't posses his body to reborn in him.

Apoc's classic powers aren't enough to defeat Ultron, while Ultron's can defeat Apoc IMO.

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Ultron easily.

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Apocalypse there is nothing ultron could do to him

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@comic_book_fan: Apoc's Celestial tech is so overrated. It has done nothing of note that would say it can do anything vs Ultron. Ultron would solo the Justice League, he would beat the overrated mutant madman.

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Ultron one-shots.

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Apocalypse

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@byondeon: Apocalypse is stronger and faster and has more powers and what is ultron going to do to him.

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@baph said:

Ultron one-shots.

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ultron

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There is no need to bump mismatches.

Ultron.

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@comic_book_fan: The same he did to Silver Surfer, Thor, Hulk and all the other heroes that tried and failed to stop him.

You can't seriously think that Apoc would beat all the Earth's heroes..

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Apocalypse jobs as always

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@byondeon: no i don't but i don't think ultron logically does without the story needing him too either lol there is no logical reason ultron survives magneto let alone surfer . off panel Apocalypse has defeated all of the earth heroes and and has killed a celestial and a watcher not to mentioned battled phoenix in the future he rules the earth with an iron fist and is stated to be the most powerful being on earth

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@comic_book_fan: Ultron have tech that prevent Magneto's powers from working on him. He is after all the robot that took over basically the whole Kree empire. He managed to enslave superheroes with ease thanks to tech.

Ultron Tech >>>>> Reed/Tony/Doom tech >>>>> Apoc tech.

Apoc have not displayed the powers and intelligence to beat Ultron. And BTW, many have beaten Phoenix and Celestials. And Watchers are pacifists in a way in that they are not allowed to do anything.

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Ultron easily in a stomp

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#176  Edited By comic_book_fan

@byondeon: yeah tec can not be truly emp proof atleast not human tec which ultron still is he works the same way as any other machaine Apocalypse's tec taught him how to use it lol tec that is thousands of years a head of any man made tec aka ultron .

people have beat phoenix and celestials but they were all more powerful than ultron and Apocalypse took over the skrulls and is pretty much the boogie man to the eternals even more so than thanos

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@comic_book_fan: Ultron is still far above Apoc. His AI took over the Phalanx, then proceeded to take over the Kree and enslaving pretty much trillions of sentient beings.

Then you have the fact that Ultron is so far above anything that Apoc have in terms of tech. Ultron tech is basically equal to Thanos/Galactus tech and maybe a bit better, and Thanos and Galactus tech is so far above anything Apoc have it's insane.

Also, taking over the Skrulls isn't impressive. Taking over the Kree is much harder. And so what if Apoc is like the Boogie man for the Eternals... Thanos is still a more dangerous guy. Apoc is weak compared to Thanos.

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@byondeon: are you saying ultron could fight galactus Apocalypse has become his own pocket dimension the kree was weakened when ultron took them over the skrull were too but not weak enough for the inhumans to overtake them infact apocalypse has enslaved all of the inhumans who took over the kree

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This is pretty close.

Ultron has the physical advantage; but Apocalypse has the versatility advantage. Ultron's tech might actually be superior, so there is that. Before anyone attacks me for that, Celestial tech has been duped by Fantomex, and defeated by most of the X-Men (technovirus cured various times, Father hacked or destroyed, etc.).

Thanks for reading,

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@floopay: i don't think ultron has the physical edge maybe durability but Apocalypse is stronger and faster

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@floopay: i don't think ultron has the physical edge maybe durability but Apocalypse is stronger and faster

Ultron is way stronger. I don't recall many lifting/striking feats from Apoc that put him on Ultrons level. Whereas Ultron has stood up to Thor, Hulk, and pretty much every other tough guy. Just by size alone he weighs over 100-10,000 tons (depending on the incarnation).

Thanks for reading,

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Can't Ultron just take over his tech like this?