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#1 Edited by Pokergeist (23180 posts) - - Show Bio

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Ultimate Quicksilver

Jay Garrick

No speed steal

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#2 Posted by trebean (796 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't Jay speed steal?

Anyway Jay stomps.

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#3 Posted by Pokergeist (23180 posts) - - Show Bio

After reading current Ultimate Quicksilver, I do believe he is faster than light at this point.

Best Proof I have thus far is this.

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This means from where QS was sitting, he would outrun the 9mm handgun bullet and be back many times before it reached where he was sitting.

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I would say 10 feet is a good rough estimate. Give or take 2 feet.

Anyway here was my piss poor attempt at a calc.

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Distance of United States Shore to South Africas is roughly 9607 miles. The speed in FPS of a 9mm Bullets is 1010, I rounded too 1000 to keep it simple and low ball it.

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I divided the 10 feet of actual travel time to the 1000 FPS the bullet covers leaving 100th of a second.

In that 100th of a second, QS can travel 9607 miles which is 960700 miles per second. Multiply that by 2 for the return trip.

1921400 Miles Per second. Faster than Light.

Then to prove this is not Hyperbole.

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After the Suppose Hyper Bole Comment, Quicksilver proves it by running to Wundogore in Europe and back with Cerebro faster than people could notice he had moves. He is standing up with a solution to the porblem, then seen sitting back in his chair with a smile!

This would be beyond light speed.

Then we have the famouse killing Mach 10 hurrican with Speed by moving so fast Hurrican Molecules come undone!

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So I think it is more clear now Ultimate Quicksilver is Light speed.

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#4 Edited by mightyrearranger (1786 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver has a shot here. However, if Jay can steal from non-Speed Force beings, he wins. He did it to The Rival once, but I don't think he was able to in their first meeting, so idk.

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#6 Edited by dondave (41560 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay Garrick ftw

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#7 Posted by dondave (41560 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver has a shot here. However, if Jay can steal from non-Speed Force beings, he wins. He did it to The Rival once, but I don't think he was able to in their first meeting, so idk.

He did it to Superman

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#8 Edited by Pokergeist (23180 posts) - - Show Bio

@mightyrearranger: @dondave: I forgot he can Speed Steal and since it is a automatic win, I wanted to take that out. Edit OP. This will be a battle on fighting merit and skill.

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#9 Posted by Saren (27534 posts) - - Show Bio

After the Suppose Hyper Bole Comment, Quicksilver proves it by running to Wundogore in Europe and back with Cerebro faster than people could notice he had moves. He is standing up with a solution to the porblem, then seen sitting back in his chair with a smile!

This would be beyond light speed.

Then we have the famouse killing Mach 10 hurrican with Speed by moving so fast Hurrican Molecules come undone!

So I think it is more clear now Ultimate Quicksilver is Light speed.

No, it wouldn't. Light races around the planet seven times in a second. Going to Wundagore and back in under a second is hardly as fast as light.

Jay still stomps. Call me when Quicksilver can hurt beings like Black Adam, Alan Scott and Drachen with a blitz instead of getting chumped by Hulk or when he has nanosecond reaction feats like Jay does. Quicksilver does not even have microsecond reaction feats.

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#10 Edited by Pokergeist (23180 posts) - - Show Bio

@citizenbane said:

@cadencev2 said:

After the Suppose Hyper Bole Comment, Quicksilver proves it by running to Wundogore in Europe and back with Cerebro faster than people could notice he had moves. He is standing up with a solution to the porblem, then seen sitting back in his chair with a smile!

This would be beyond light speed.

Then we have the famouse killing Mach 10 hurrican with Speed by moving so fast Hurrican Molecules come undone!

So I think it is more clear now Ultimate Quicksilver is Light speed.

No, it wouldn't. Light races around the planet seven times in a second. Going to Wundagore and back in under a second is hardly as fast as light.

Jay still stomps. Call me when Quicksilver can hurt beings like Black Adam, Alan Scott and Drachen with a blitz instead of getting chumped by Hulk or when he has nanosecond reaction feats like Jay does. Quicksilver does not even have microsecond reaction feats.

According to the Speed of Light Speed in Miles per second and the Calcs, it measures up.

As for you vote, noted. Thanks for the input.

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#11 Posted by Ancient_0f_Days (15097 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol, man.......

Anyway....Jay

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#12 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4766 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2:

I saw you made a thread with 'ultimate' in it and just stepped in to learn why the Ultimate char would beat the other one.

Also...

...maybe you should stick to letting me do the calcs, eh? XD

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#13 Posted by Sama_el (172 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not saying you're wrong but, the african thing is just a speculation, there's no real feat there unless he did it, and the cerebro thing I dunno, to much math in this, we goes to europa and back in less time to a normal human reaction time, but i dont think its FTL, and 1 time thing isnt exactly porf of anything

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#14 Posted by Pokergeist (23180 posts) - - Show Bio

@cadencev2:

I saw you made a thread with 'ultimate' in it and just stepped in to learn why the Ultimate char would beat the other one.

Also...

...maybe you should stick to letting me do the calcs, eh? XD

Please take a crack at it, i be happy for more nput on other formulas.

@sama_el said:

I'm not saying you're wrong but, the african thing is just a speculation, there's no real feat there unless he did it, and the cerebro thing I dunno, to much math in this, we goes to europa and back in less time to a normal human reaction time, but i dont think its FTL, and 1 time thing isnt exactly porf of anything

Agreed. It is definitely faster than Mach 500 which Black Adam tops out at in Comics. Also the speed for Cerbro is complicated because he went to Europe in such speed, then return back with a object that weighs 3 times more than QS does. Which is hard to calculate getting there and then the fact he was much slower on the weigh back with a heavy metal object.

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#15 Posted by MartianManhunterIsBetterThanCyborg (2452 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay stomps

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#16 Posted by TDK_1997 (17769 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay wins.

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#18 Posted by Doom_Phd (1394 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokergeist:

Light travels around the planet 7.5 times in a second.

So moving from continent to another just under a second is even close to light. Also the human eye wouldn't notice something going above 200mph .

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#19 Posted by reaverlation (23427 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay

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#20 Posted by LuciusTheEternal (845 posts) - - Show Bio

It's not light speed, but as was said, it's way faster than Mach 500 which Black Adam tops at in speed on panel.

Ultimate QS has a shot then.

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#21 Posted by Experio (18215 posts) - - Show Bio

Jay