Ultimate Light vs Dark (Star Wars)

Light Side

• Anakin Skywalker (RotS)
• Mace Windu (RotS)
• Yoda (RotS)
• Kit Fisto (RotS)
• Obi-Wan Kenobi (RotS)
• Cin Drallig (RotS)
• Revan (Before his light/dark side split so he can use both light/dark side Force powers in the fight)
• Grandmaster Luke
• Galen Marek (TFU)
• Exar Kun (Whatever his prime is a Jedi)
• Mara Jade Skywalker (Whatever her prime is)
• Jaina Solo (Whatever her prime is)
• Cade Skywalker (Whatever his prime is)
• Qui-Gon Jinn
• Plo Koon
• Kyle Katarn
• Anakin Solo
• Shaak Ti
• Kazdan Paratus

Dark Side

• General Grievous (RotS)
• Count Dooku (RotS)
• Darth Caedus (Whatever his prime is)
• Darth Bane (Whatever his prime is)
• Darth Malgus (Whatever his prime is)
• Darth Maul (Clone Wars)
• Darth Vader (Knightfall)
• Darth Malak (Whatever his prime is)
• Darth Krayt (Whatever his prime is)
• Darth Sidious (DE)
• Darth Lumiya (Whatever her prime is)
• Darth Plagueis (Whatever his prime is)
• Darth Nihilus (Whatever his prime is)
• The Grand Inquisitor (Rebels)
• Darth Zannah
• Darth Traya
• Kylo Ren (The Last Jedi)
• Mother Talzin

All feats are both Canon and Legends to bring out their full potential. Fight takes place in the Geonosis Arena

Luke takes Krayt, Kenobi takes Grievous, Anakin takes Dooku, Windu holds off RotS Sidious, Revan wrecks Malak and then proceeds to take on Malgus or Bane, Talzin in the Geonosis arena can honestly be held off by Fisto (unless there's a lot more life in Geonosis than it seems), and Marek, Drallig, and Jedi Kun can at least hold their own against RotS Vader and Maul, in my opinion.

Of course, there are plenty of other combinations this fight could take, but I think the light side team would win more often than not. Talzin in such a lifeless environment, Malgus, and Bane are all relatively weak compared to their competition, while Drallig and Fisto (and Jedi Kun?) seem to be the only weak links on the light side team.

Also, I feel like Caedus, Jaina, Cade, Plagueis, and Yoda could be added instead of the weak links to make this more of an "ultimate" fight, but that's besides the point.

Team Dark Side has too many weak links, whereas Team Light Side has too many heavy hitters.

@amethystgravity: cool I'll add them

Windu, GM Luke, Anakin and Galen are the real threats here. GM Luke can take anyone on the opposing team whereas Mace and Anakin can take anyone with the obvious exception of Sidious (who they both might be able to take a few rounds against) and possibly Krayt. Team Sith has way too many weak links.

@amethystgravity@breakofdawn how about know I added some people and I took out Mother Talzin

@yamans012345678: It's a bit more even but team 1 is still too stacked. I'm not sure if you added SOR Revan originally, but he's another character who will only be beaten by 2-3 people on the Sith team. Throwing in GM Luke (who's far above anyone here), Anakin, prime Mace and Galen ensures that the Sith team gets beaten into submission 9 times out of 10.

The only characters I see really standing a chance on the Sith team are Sids, Krayt (though I'm not sure where he sits in relation to the other powerhouses - not entirely sure why people consider him on GM Luke's level), Plagueis and probably Vader. Cade, Kenobi, Fisto and the others can take out the others.

Team Light because it has GM Luke and Team Dark doesn’t have DE Sidious

Darf Sibious solos.

@breakofdawn: For good points what Sith do you think would make the team even more pwerful or should i take some sith out

@yamans012345678: I'd probably add Valkorian, change ROTS Sidious to DE so GM Luke actually has some competition and give team dark Revan and team light the Outlander in his place. That would help balance it out more by giving the Sith more significant powerhouses and compensating for the light team's loss of Luke by giving them one of the few characters from TOR era superior to SOR Revan.

@breakofdawn: Ok cool thanks a lot

I’m thinking light, but nihilus is lookin pretty mvp’ish over there

I think make the battle with a little less characters tho. It’s a big hard to keep all of them in consideration

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@worstdebater: Nihilus. Looks. Like. The. MVP.

Anymore dense questions?

wow

>Darth Nihilus

>MVP in a team with Sidious, Krayt, Plagueis, Vader

Take your pick

Sidious solos

>Team has Plagueis, Krayt, and DE Sidious

>"Nihilus might be MVP"

Cin Drallig curbstomps Nihilus and then it can go either way

Looking at this again:

Luke takes on Sidious, Obi-wan holds off RotS Vader, Anakin takes down Dooku, I guess Cin Drallig and Fisto can at least hold off Grievous, Jaina can at least hold off Caedus, Yoda takes on Plageuis, Exar Kun can fight Bane, Mara takes down Lumiya, Revan takes on Nihilus and fodderizes Malak, and Galen/Windu/Cade can hold off Maul, Malgus, and Krayt.

Overall, I think the Dark Side team might have an edge in raw power, but a force meld for the Light Side team could help bridge that gap. The matchups I listed were just showing what I thought of how the power levels compared.

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@amethystgravity: That's extremely good I kinda wanna see that in action whether in a game or movie now and I want it to play out just like that

Extremely good fight,but the light side team has both yoda and Luke on their side. Yoda is far above anyone on the other team except caedus and palpatine ( who’s the only one better than him), but Luke outclasses everyone on the other team. Jedi team wins

The Sith. Pretty convincingly.

Tier 9 Light

• Mace Windu (RotS)
• Yoda (RotS)
• Grandmaster Luke
• Anakin Skywalker (RotS)

Tier 9 Sith

• Darth Krayt
• Darth Sidious (DE)
• Darth Plagueis
• Darth Vader (RotS)

When I first wrote this I thought it was RotJ Vader, so I dropped him into tier 8. So where the Sith got a narrow edge in a 3v4 before, now they get a more decisive edge. In addition to some esoteric and difficult to counter powers (Storms, Dark Transfer, maybe Midichlorian Manipulation), now it's a simple 4v4. Sidious beats Luke, Vader beats Anakin, Krayt and Plagueis vs Yoda and Mace should be lengthy enough for the other fights to wrap up at the very least. Overall the Sith are just better here.

Tier 8 Light

• Obi-Wan Kenobi (RotS)
• Revan
• Galen Marek (TFU)
• Cade Skywalker

Tier 8 Dark

• General Grievous (RotS)
• Count Dooku (RotS)
• Darth Caedus
• Darth Bane
• Darth Malgus
• Darth Maul
• Darth Malak
• Darth Lumiya
• Darth Nihilus

Tier 7 Light

• Mara Jade Skywalker (Whatever her prime is)
• Jaina Solo (Whatever her prime is)
• Kit Fisto (RotS)
• Exar Kun (Whatever his prime is a Jedi)

Tier 6 Light

• Cin Drallig

Should be obvious that on the whole, the Sith are just more powerful here. With the likes of Grievous, Lumiya and Nihilus adding general unorthodoxy to a big group fight and tanks like Maul, Caedus, Malgus etc taking forever to go down, the Sith will overpower the Jedi and then start to backstab Luke and co.

Good fight but fairly obvious which side wins.

Sidious solos

The Jedi have too much weak links.

The very best of the Jedi(Luke, Yoda etc.) do beat their Sith counterparts, but the Jedi simply have too less numbers on the tier of Obi Wan/Revan/Galen to actually win this. Many Jedi listed don't come close to sniffing a top 15 Jedi list whereas most Sith heavyweights are here. Good battle though.

I'm gonna say sith

Team Sith, great fight.

@dawn_of_ages@lordofthelight@i_like_swords@amethystgravity@breakofdawn I added a bunch of people and I wanted to see who you guys think would win now

Did the GI and Kylo take a wrong turn somewhere?

@wolfrazer: Nah the latter is trying to convince Sidious to not overshadow him in Ep. 9.

Jedi team wins. They have GM Luke at their side.

Team Sith.