UI Goku vs SSB Kaioken x20 Goku

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ToP Arc third UI Goku

Super Hero Arc Goku

Location: Earth

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#2  Edited By rickythanos

Logically, UI should be FAR more than SSBKK20, despite the time in between them (I doubt very seriously he's had a Zenkai boost on the level of the one he *probably* got after ToP).

But logic doesn't always apply to DB debates LOL

Like, we can't accept time scaling for this match unless we want to start applying the same time scaling to GT characters and feats.

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#5  Edited By takenstew22  Moderator

Super Hero hasn't come out. Pointless match and UI should stomp anyway.

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#6  Edited By brogokudestroys

The only way ssb kaioken wins is if we go by dragon ball legends.

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super hero goku stomps

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Ui Goku

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Goku's Blue forms at this stage is fodder.

UI makes short work of him.

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#11 Jack_Hart  Online

SH Goku wins. By the time of the SH arc Goku has enough significant training buffs (including using UI on lesser forms), that SSB plus KKx20 would put him over ToP UI Sign Goku, or at least outlast it.

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Omen Goku utterly stomps.

It's ridiculous to claim that Goku got 'massively' stronger due to just training. We have evidence from various instances in DBZ that mere training for lengthy periods of time does not yield significant results, and even more so with statements that the Saiyans have reached their physical limit and can barely get stronger from training their bodies.

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#13  Edited By Aksilroch

@noobsnowman: Except the manga says he got massively stronger a few times by Piccolo and Beerus, but you are the same moron that thinks SSB is Buu Saga tier.

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SSBKK should have more AP via upscaling his Moro arc self who could actually blow off the arm of Moro 73 who's > to his Prime self who's ~ to UI Omen.

Other than that it's up in the air for me

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SSB Kaioken Stomp. Early Granolah Arc Vegeta > Broly >>>> UI Sign Goku TOP

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#16  Edited By noobsnowman

@aksilroch: Well no shit Beerus and Piccolo said Goku got massively stronger, Goku unlocked many forms since his first fight with Beerus. Nothing to do with getting stronger in his existing form.

Also, this is SSBKKx20 Goku, which dosen't even exist in the manga.

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@noobsnowman: False he was just in SSB and Goku didn't even unlock new forms arcs later

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@vortextitan:

False he was just in SSB

Congratulations, you just proved my point that SSBKKx20 Goku dosen't exist in the manga. What a wonderful observation you have made.

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