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In this battle, Avatar's chi blocker Ty Lee will take on the CW's Arrow, but who will win?

Fight takes place in an abandoned factory-moderately lit. Starting distance is 30 feet

Both have basic knowledge on each other's abilities

Both are in character but completely serious. Victory by ko

Round 1: Ollie only has standard arrows

Round 2: Ollie has all usual arrows, including trick arrows

Who wins?

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I don't Arrow but I'll say Ty Lee because she is a better actress than him. lol

Do you have a gif that show her and Mai taking down Earth Kingdom Army in the walls of Ba Sing Se? That's a good feat.

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@wbr17 said:

I don't Arrow but I'll say Ty Lee because she is a better actress than him. lol

Do you have a gif that show her and Mai taking down Earth Kingdom Army in the walls of Ba Sing Se? That's a good feat.

I do have that

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@arcus: Cool. I wanna see Green Batman do that.

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Ty Lee takes R1 due to agility, speed and superior h2h striking feats.

Haven't been keeping up with Season 3 of Arrow so it depends on how lose Ollie's morals are and how often he unleashes his tricks.

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Ty lee both rounds prolly.

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Ty lee wins both, her fantabulous and majestic hands of "you are screwed" are unstoppable. :D

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Ty Lee. One strike can completely make him useless and in character he's not going to shoot her.

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@lunacyde said:

Ty Lee. One strike can completely make him useless and in character he's not going to shoot her.

Doesn't he shoot people in character? If he actually sees them as a threat-which is what I was going for

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@arcus said:

@lunacyde said:

Ty Lee. One strike can completely make him useless and in character he's not going to shoot her.

Doesn't he shoot people in character? If he actually sees them as a threat-which is what I was going for

Probably not a 15 year old girl, at least not right off the bat. Eventually he'd try to hit her with a shot to the arm or leg likely, or use some kind of trick arrow to disable her for round 2. Besides she is quick enough to dodge arrows.

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Ty lee
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Ty lee. Ollie moves too slow. He really shouldnt fight h2h with his bow it makes him move like a turtle

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#17  Edited By SirNeko

Ollie both rounds with ease. He has tanked blows that make Ty Lee a mosquito, he also tanked a spam of Flash's punches. Ty Lee won't be doing any damage, she doesn't have much striking feats as far as I remember. All she did was take people down by blocking their chackra points, which Arrow doesn't have, he is not a bender. He is also fast enough to catch a flying arrow. As soon as Arrow gets serious and tags her it's over, which will be rather soon since she is annoying and fast.

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@sirneko said:

Ollie both rounds, Ollie has tanked hits that make Ty Lee a kingergarten and she either breaks her hands against Ollie or just keeps hitting him like a mosquito.

Why the hell would she break her hands hitting him?

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#19 Lunacyde  Moderator

@sirneko:

Hahaha, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ty Lee's chi blocking abilities utilize pressure points and effect benders and non-benders alike as she demonstrated when she paralyzed Sokka's arm with a single strike. Her abilities don't rely on power, but instead intimate knowledge of the human body and quick precise strikes. Blocking bending is just one side effect of her abilities, as anyone who has a basic understanding of the show knows paralysis is another effect of her skills. Oliver has no way to avoid these effects or counter them. A single strike could very well render him near useless.

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@lunacyde said:

@sirneko:

Hahaha, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ty Lee's chi blocking abilities utilize pressure points and effect benders and non-benders alike as she demonstrated when she paralyzed Sokka's arm with a single strike. Her abilities don't rely on power, but instead intimate knowledge of the human body and quick precise strikes. Blocking bending is just one side effect of her abilities, as anyone who has a basic understanding of the show knows paralysis is another effect of her skills. Oliver has no way to avoid these effects or counter them. A single strike could very well render him near useless.

Ty Lee is not nearly fast enough to hit his pressure points and has shown with Sokka pressure points on regular human are much less rare on the body, since she had to hit him in specific places, while she hit Benders all around. Arrow already knows everything Ty Lee can do and how fast she is. Ty Lee is like Dick Grayson with minimal Martial Arts training, most of her abilities come from the circus and speed.

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@sirneko said:

Ollie both rounds, Ollie has tanked hits that make Ty Lee a kingergarten and she either breaks her hands against Ollie or just keeps hitting him like a mosquito.

Why the hell would she break her hands hitting him?

It was a joke, I changed my mind and edited it out.

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@sirneko said:
@lunacyde said:

@sirneko:

Hahaha, you have no idea what you're talking about. Ty Lee's chi blocking abilities utilize pressure points and effect benders and non-benders alike as she demonstrated when she paralyzed Sokka's arm with a single strike. Her abilities don't rely on power, but instead intimate knowledge of the human body and quick precise strikes. Blocking bending is just one side effect of her abilities, as anyone who has a basic understanding of the show knows paralysis is another effect of her skills. Oliver has no way to avoid these effects or counter them. A single strike could very well render him near useless.

Ty Lee is not nearly fast enough to hit his pressure points and has shown with Sokka pressure points on regular human are much less rare on the body, since she had to hit him in specific places, while she hit Benders all around. Arrow already knows everything Ty Lee can do and how fast she is. Ty Lee is like Dick Grayson with minimal Martial Arts training, most of her abilities come from the circus and speed.

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Ty Lee isn't fast enough to hit his pressure points? Ty Lee who dropped an entire platoon of elite Earthbending troops in seconds? Pressure points are much less rare on the human body? She paralyzed both his arms, and one leg. She also did the same thing she did to the Elite Earthbending troops to the Kyoshi warriors (who are not benders), and all the boys that were chasing her in "The Beach" Episode. Her abilities work the same on benders and non-benders alike.

Please stop using the Flash as a feat for Oliver. It's funny how Arrow fans make such a big deal about "plot force Thea" beating Slade, but don't recognize "plot force Oliver" taking down Barry is just as ridiculous. Even if we do accept it as not being a completely plot-driven moment of ridiculousness, Barry is an untrained nerd who was magically given superspeed. He has no fighting ability whatsover, the only plausible reason Oliver could tag him, and even then it's a longshot, is because he's predictable, unskilled, and doesn't pay attention in combat...which was the whole point of the episode in the first-place.

I don't know why you brought Dick Grayson into this considering Oliver has never faced him, would be stomped by him, and doesn't have Ty Lee's nerve striking abilities.

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@lunacyde said:

@arcus said:

@lunacyde said:

Ty Lee. One strike can completely make him useless and in character he's not going to shoot her.

Doesn't he shoot people in character? If he actually sees them as a threat-which is what I was going for

Probably not a 15 year old girl, at least not right off the bat. Eventually he'd try to hit her with a shot to the arm or leg likely, or use some kind of trick arrow to disable her for round 2. Besides she is quick enough to dodge arrows.

Let's say Ollie's looking to kill her. Change anything?

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@arcus said:

@lunacyde said:

@arcus said:

@lunacyde said:

Ty Lee. One strike can completely make him useless and in character he's not going to shoot her.

Doesn't he shoot people in character? If he actually sees them as a threat-which is what I was going for

Probably not a 15 year old girl, at least not right off the bat. Eventually he'd try to hit her with a shot to the arm or leg likely, or use some kind of trick arrow to disable her for round 2. Besides she is quick enough to dodge arrows.

Let's say Ollie's looking to kill her. Change anything?

Yeah, he could probably take quite a few then. She's fast enough to react to arrows, but if she doesn't end the fight fast she'll get tagged and she isn't going to come back from that.

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@lunacyde said:

@arcus said:

@lunacyde said:

@arcus said:

@lunacyde said:

Ty Lee. One strike can completely make him useless and in character he's not going to shoot her.

Doesn't he shoot people in character? If he actually sees them as a threat-which is what I was going for

Probably not a 15 year old girl, at least not right off the bat. Eventually he'd try to hit her with a shot to the arm or leg likely, or use some kind of trick arrow to disable her for round 2. Besides she is quick enough to dodge arrows.

Let's say Ollie's looking to kill her. Change anything?

Yeah, he could probably take quite a few then. She's fast enough to react to arrows, but if she doesn't end the fight fast she'll get tagged and she isn't going to come back from that.

Ok. Let's say he's willing to kill her, but not necessarily going for the kill immediately

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It's kind of hard to compare these two characters, because the laws of physics are different for both their respective universes. Ty Lee can jump 20 feet in the air no problem, but Ollie has to get a 30 ft running start to jump a 20 ft space between rooftops (which is how it is in real life). Not sure how to reconcile that...

Putting that aside, I think Ollie edges this out, especially in round 2. He can handle most of Ty Lee's strikes and even if he does get tagged, she is still vulnerable to getting hit with anything, whether it's an arrow, fist, foot, or flechette. He can study her and launch melee or ranged attacks in anticipation of her patterns. His versatility goes up with the use of trick arrows.

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#29  Edited By Saint_Sophie

Ty Lee. She could incap him with a strike or two. Then again, Ollie has dealt with the Flash before so it's not a stomp. He'll put up some resistance.

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@arcus: He's just more versatile and can dish out and take on a lot more than Ty Lee has to offer, even with Avatar Physics on her side. Not to mention the guy can tank blows from The Flash and tag him...this is a guy who can reach speeds up to 700 mph on panel and his fist flurry would naturally have much more impact than Ty Lee's blows.

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@arcus: He's just more versatile and can dish out and take on a lot more than Ty Lee has to offer, even with Avatar Physics on her side. Not to mention the guy can tank blows from The Flash and tag him...this is a guy who can reach speeds up to 700 mph on panel and his fist flurry would naturally have much more impact than Ty Lee's blows.

Would people stop using Flash as a measuring stick? The guy has had trouble with numerous relatively untrained normal humans before.

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#32  Edited By Rijehu

@lunacyde said:

@rijehu said:

@arcus: He's just more versatile and can dish out and take on a lot more than Ty Lee has to offer, even with Avatar Physics on her side. Not to mention the guy can tank blows from The Flash and tag him...this is a guy who can reach speeds up to 700 mph on panel and his fist flurry would naturally have much more impact than Ty Lee's blows.

Would people stop using Flash as a measuring stick? The guy has had trouble with numerous relatively untrained normal humans before.

I don't like this logic.

Frankly, the guy could have had problems with a pebble, it doesn't change the feats or facts in what I posted. He is still faster and hits harder than Ty Lee and Ollie can take more that force had on. Not to mention that trying to discredit him for facing "untrained normal" humans ins't really helpful since in live action as well as real life "untrained" and "normal" does not equate to them being harmless or powerless.

Flash has also taken down heavy hitters that are far from normal, but of course that will be ignored by people who have no intentions of properly crediting him.

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@rijehu said:

@lunacyde said:

@rijehu said:

@arcus: He's just more versatile and can dish out and take on a lot more than Ty Lee has to offer, even with Avatar Physics on her side. Not to mention the guy can tank blows from The Flash and tag him...this is a guy who can reach speeds up to 700 mph on panel and his fist flurry would naturally have much more impact than Ty Lee's blows.

Would people stop using Flash as a measuring stick? The guy has had trouble with numerous relatively untrained normal humans before.

I don't like this logic.

Frankly, the guy could have had problems with a pebble, it doesn't change the feats or facts in what I posted. He is still faster and hits harder than Ty Lee and Ollie can take more that force had on. Not to mention that trying to discredit him for facing "untrained normal" humans ins't really helpful since in live action as well as real life "untrained" and "normal" does not equate to them being harmless or powerless.

Flash has also taken down heavy hitters that are far from normal, but of course that will be ignored by people who have no intentions of properly crediting him.

The logic still remains true.

He's extremely inexperienced without the leadership of his scientific board assisting him or motivating him. No, he doesn't hit faster than Ty Lee, he has had trouble with fodder plenty of times before. So the fact Oliver tanked his blows was to show that Barry is no where near at a even some degree of expertise in striking power, skill or application of power. Because let's face it, we know who'd win in the comics for the most straight-forward of reasons, and they both have similar attributes compared to their respective comic versions.

Barry also uses his powers horribly in the show, undeniably. And usually, he wins from brute speed alone from most of the time out-running his enemies which includes supernatural "heavy-hitters" and literally shoving them over for a win. He may finally punch his enemies out, but even that's a rarity, which shows he's extremely in-adept of knowing how to finish his enemies off of any power-set or skill level. Any sort of logical way he might use to finish off his opponents, would be the cause of the direction or motivation of his peers, of whom he does not have the aid of here.

L. D.

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@rijehu said:

@lunacyde said:

@rijehu said:

@arcus: He's just more versatile and can dish out and take on a lot more than Ty Lee has to offer, even with Avatar Physics on her side. Not to mention the guy can tank blows from The Flash and tag him...this is a guy who can reach speeds up to 700 mph on panel and his fist flurry would naturally have much more impact than Ty Lee's blows.

Would people stop using Flash as a measuring stick? The guy has had trouble with numerous relatively untrained normal humans before.

I don't like this logic.

Frankly, the guy could have had problems with a pebble, it doesn't change the feats or facts in what I posted. He is still faster and hits harder than Ty Lee and Ollie can take more that force had on. Not to mention that trying to discredit him for facing "untrained normal" humans ins't really helpful since in live action as well as real life "untrained" and "normal" does not equate to them being harmless or powerless.

Flash has also taken down heavy hitters that are far from normal, but of course that will be ignored by people who have no intentions of properly crediting him.

CW Flash doesn't hit that hard, he's punched people with normal durability plenty of times without any serious bodily harm. He's also been tagged countless times by people with normal human reaction time. The Flash can get by on his pure speed and the help from his team enough to end most of the threats, but that by no means makes him untouchable as he has shown time and time again.

People are trying to boost Oliver's abilities by arguing he did well against Barry, but the fact is people far less skilled and physically trained than Oliver have tagged and tanked Barry, so the feats don't do what you think they do. Add in the fact that in the same circumstance Ty Lee could easily take Barry down and it becomes pointless.

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Try Lee for the many reasons already given

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Ty lee wins both, her fantabulous and majestic hands of "you are screwed" are unstoppable. :D

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#39  Edited By theavatarguruu

@sinntek1 said:
@zukolicious said:

Ty lee wins both, her fantabulous and majestic hands of "you are screwed" are unstoppable. :D

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Ty Lee stomps both rounds. She's too quick and Arrow won't last against her Chi Blocking.

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Arrow most likely.

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Ty Lee both rounds.

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