What are tusnade's best feats? Where does she sit in power? City, mountain, island, country level?
Mirajane is a good bit stronger than mardgeer and CSK who had legit and on-panel large-mountain+ feats. Does tsunade have the feats/strength to contend?
What are tusnade's best feats? Where does she sit in power? City, mountain, island, country level?
None of those.
-City level was a big deal for Pain/Nagato.
-Mountain and island level is for Madara, Hashirama, BM Naruto etc. The 5 Kages cried in tears when Madara cut mountains.
-Country level is Six Paths tier.
Tsunade by visual feats is building level and scaling to Sakura places her at city-block at best. Majority of Kages are at that busting tier. Only the very high tier (starting from Pain) go higher with their full power of course.
@woodward: LOL bro u just downplayrd the hell out of her and the kages I'm dying 😂😂😂
Honestly, I think she's around town to city level. She should still be roughly around the same level as gaara who stopped a town level attack(deidara's KN bomb) in BOS, but that's just my opinion.
Then iirc, she did crack maddy's rib cage susanoo, now I don't know the durability of that rib cage, but I doubt it would be anything below city level.
Building level/city block is too much of a lowball IMO.
@el_directo_: Like Shapiro said: Facts don't care about your feelings.
It's impossible for her to be town to city level, and you're throwing those terms loosely here. Cities and towns vary in size, but are generally few km big in landmass. It's impossible for her to be at that busting tier because:
1). Lack of on-screen feats.
2). Pain/Nagato who curbstomps Tsunade neg diff needed his strongest technique to pull off a town/city level attack, which put his power on cool-down and life at risk.
Scaling in Naruto doesn't work that way as well. Gaara is a defensive fighter, and he was using an entire desert to protect his village from Deidara's bomb, which isn't town anyway just by visuals. Tsunade's fighting style is completely different from Gaara, so there is no way you can apply that scaling method.
All of her on-screen feats and scaling to Sakura put her building to city-block. There is no downplay just because how you feel. Those are panel evidences.
tsunade is certainly stronger than the actual high end feats which were shown in the series. the fact that on screen we have not seen any of tsunade's prolonged high end fights doesn't help her case. we only got scaling for high end feats.
@woodward: that’s actually not true. Tsunade exhausted herself saving the villagers. She never got to fight pain. At full power she tops out at mountain level at absolute best
Shes faster, her punches can do more damage than the bijus hits, she would've killed madara but he tanked attacks fom biju, she is better skilled, regen factor, katsuyu her chakra can put miras neural network in disarray which is an instant incap.
BSS Mira = Skullion >>> Gray who can match Base Natsu >>>>> Tsunade lol. Macro was negated by Wall unless people think those fodders were far stronger than Tartarus Erza lmao. Mira also beat Jacob who was capable of overpowering Natsu in physicals and no selling his Base attacks.
Not really seeing how Tsunade stacks up to Mira lol.
She could break Madara's Ribcage Susanoo with a punch, while War Arc Sage Mode Naruto's Giant Rasengan couldn't even scratch it. The same Rasengan used by a weaker person is said to be able to easily carve away a mountain
@zuriel-el: Not random scaling or hyping at all lol. Iku did a multi-mountain level feat with physical power, no sold Base Natsu who indented a mountain prior and was 2km+ in height. He was easily vaporized by a Demo-fist from Base Natsu. Same Demo-fist was no sold by Madmole. Mira and Elfman were capable of hurting Madmole with just physical power (note Mira was in BSS her weakest takeover). Mira also had shown to vape a sea with the passive flex of her magical power in her Alegria form (strongest form). An island level feat. She also fought Gray to a high diff despite being weakened from stalemating Skullion who stomped Gray. Gray is also a Demon Slayer which is basically kryptonite to Demons which Mira is. This was again all done in Mira's weakest form. So yeah, mountain is pretty weak to the high tiers of Fairy Tail.
What are tusnade's best feats? Where does she sit in power? City, mountain, island, country level?
Mirajane is a good bit stronger than mardgeer and CSK who had legit and on-panel large-mountain+ feats. Does tsunade have the feats/strength to contend?
Also, does she have any answer to Mira's macro?
her best feat is being comparable if not stronger than Hundred seal Sakura who is Town Level, that is all, she can crack Rib cage susanoo but cant completely obliterate it like Sasuke Kirin which in term means her punching is much weaker than Kirin/Large TOwn Level+ attack
Honestly Tsunade is comparable to Pre time skip Mirajane without any of the quirks and pros of MIrajane, MIrajen can fly, has great defense due to Satan Soul, has comparable Physicals and Magical Attacks while Tsunade is just pure power with no defense and no speed/flight, she has Regen which can increase her fighting life but the side effects of it are also big.
those claiming Mountain level are usually the ones that dont understand what that even means, no Kage tier bellow Pain/Nagato is mountain level, not even Tail beast 1-7 with TBB are mountain level on the min, on this forum Town level and Mountain level gets confused alot, the first City/Mountain tier Jutsu in naruto was Pain.
@jdogg: Lol no its not. A scan of the mountain busting would be nice, someone provided proof by showing a scan of tsunade breaking susanoo which shrugged off a mountain level attack, you claim mira is above tsunade, prove it.
Mira is faster you say? Prove it, cause tsunade scales to Jiraiya and orochimaru who are kakashi tier at least.
Mira is stronger u say? I prove it, tsunade broke a susanoo.
And oneshotted a madara clone.
http://www.mangareader.net/naruto/588/7
Mira will tank nerve attacks from erio ninjutsu chakra that can go through skin? Prove it, note this chakra can pass through narutos skin even when asaid skin survived toneri blasting a hole in the moon, said skin tanked attacks from. Momoshiki whose attack potency is above toneri.
@el_directo_: Like Shapiro said: Facts don't care about your feelings.
Indeed, which is why anyone would be familiar with your clear hate bias towards this series for whatever reason. It's like Kishimoto drew something about your mother or something.
It's impossible for her to be town to city level, and you're throwing those terms loosely here. Cities and towns vary in size, but are generally few km big in landmass. It's impossible for her to be at that busting tier because:
You're right, it is virtually impossible for Tsunade to be city level because she hits harder than someone who has the mass of Islands behind their punches and moves significantly faster than her:
For example, Onoki onehanding an island:
Then applying similar pressure to 25 of Madaras Susanoo to prevent them from moving entirely:
Onoki then applied that said pressure to the raikages punches which blew a sizeable hole in his impartial susanoo:
The same partial Susanoo which tanked Kuramas Island busting BB:
As well as the same weighted attack from the Raikage beforehand which she outdid by a significant margin:
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And if we wanna talk consistency Tsunade did something BSM Naruto did:
Tsunade's AP is far far beyond city Level.
1). Lack of on-screen feats.
Laughable. 5 Kage vs Madara and The battle of the legendary 3 is more than enough feats when taking all things into account.
Tsunade was also massively out of prime by lore and was jobbing when fighting Madara.
2). Pain/Nagato who curbstomps Tsunade neg diff needed his strongest technique to pull off a town/city level attack, which put his power on cool-down and life at risk.
Laughable. Konoha litterally houses a mountain range and has dozens upon dozens of districts.
Scaling in Naruto doesn't work that way as well. Gaara is a defensive fighter, and he was using an entire desert to protect his village from Deidara's bomb, which isn't town anyway just by visuals. Tsunade's fighting style is completely different from Gaara, so there is no way you can apply that scaling method.
Imagine the amount of ignorance it'd seriously take to argue this as 'less than town' level:
Suna, a nation litterally inside a hollowfied mountain range with buildings as far as the eye can see (from an aerial view) is less than town level. Amazing.
All of her on-screen feats and scaling to Sakura put her building to city-block. There is no downplay just because how you feel. Those are panel evidences.
Scaling from V1 Sakura (Aka BASE Tsunade/Adult Sakura whose mastered it) makes her mountain+. Your lowballing is not only hilarious but rather ironic.
Indeed, which is why anyone would be familiar with your clear hate bias towards this series for whatever reason. It's like Kishimoto drew something about your mother or something.
Why so agitated? I merely stated a fact.
You're right, it is virtually impossible for Tsunade to be city level because she hits harder than someone who has the mass of Islands behind their punches and moves significantly faster than her:
Imagine trying to scale weight manipulation Ninjutsu to physical attacks lmao.
1). The Ninjutsu Onoki used to lift the Turtle Island is Earth Style: Lightened Boulder Jutsuwhich decreases the weight of the target. The Ninjutsu he used on Susanoo clones is Earth Style: Weighted Boulder Jutsuwhich increases the weight of the target. Both techniques are gravity weight manipulation which have nothing to do with busting, and Tsunade doesn't scale to either.
3). Your third BS is trying to scale Tsunade to BM Naruto lmfao. Sage Mode Madara >>> Edo Madara for the reasons above, and not to mention Tsunade didn't even destroy or crack the V3 Susanoo. All she did was punch it and it fell. Like wtf???
Idk who you're trying to deceive by posting 6 tier of scaling all of which are horseshit.
Tsunade's AP is far far beyond city Level.
Right...That's why she was at disbelief at village/town level attack from Pain lmao
Laughable. 5 Kage vs Madara and The battle of the legendary 3 is more than enough feats when taking all things into account.
The same battle where the 5 Kages were shitting their pants at mountain busting lmao
Laughable. Konoha litterally houses a mountain range and has dozens upon dozens of districts.
Do you know what a mountain range is? Those are gigantic land elevations that span +100 to +1000 of kilometres.
This is the Hidden Leaf Village:
Suna, a nation litterally inside a hollowfied mountain range with buildings as far as the eye can see (from an aerial view) is less than town level. Amazing.
The village doesn't end in horizon, you wanker, and I've been to towns bigger than that.
Scaling from V1 Sakura (Aka BASE Tsunade/Adult Sakura whose mastered it) makes her mountain+. Your lowballing is not only hilarious but rather ironic.
Your scaling is bunch of lies, and do you realize Tsunade/Sakura being mountain busters wouldn't make sense from narrative portrayal? Kishimoto emphasized up mountain busting as something far beyond the capacity of most Kage level fighters.
What are tusnade's best feats? Where does she sit in power? City, mountain, island, country level?
None of those.
-City level was a big deal for Pain/Nagato.
-Mountain and island level is for Madara, Hashirama, BM Naruto etc. The 5 Kages cried in tears when Madara cut mountains.
-Country level is Six Paths tier.
Tsunade by visual feats is building level and scaling to Sakura places her at city-block at best. Majority of Kages are at that busting tier. Only the very high tier (starting from Pain) go higher with their full power of course.
Even the fodder tier of the guild is lightning now lol. BoS Natsu and Gajeel were lightning timers as they dodged lightning from Laxus who has shown to have cloud to ground lightning.
Mountain level feats with ribcage? I haven't seen anything to say they have mountain level durability lol.
The move is lightning style lol.
Naruto nor Tsunade are even close to Lee's level in taijustu lmao. Mira was fighting an assassin who skill enough to fight both Natsu and Lucy in CQC lmao. Natsu alone has shown better cqc skill than Tsunade who just only knows how to bull rush.
Not agitated, yet. Just pointing out how next to pathetic it is to have a hate boner for fictional characters as if it benefits you anything whatsoever.
Imagine trying to scale weight manipulation Ninjutsu to physical attacks lmao.
imagine being so mentally unaware to suggest that Mass osnt a factor in how hard someone hits.
1). The Ninjutsu Onoki used to lift the Turtle Island is Earth Style: Lightened Boulder Jutsuwhich decreases the weight of the target. The Ninjutsu he used on Susanoo clones is Earth Style: Weighted Boulder Jutsuwhich increases the weight of the target. Both techniques are gravity weight manipulation which have nothing to do with busting, and Tsunade doesn't scale to either.
Lelelel what a laughable comprehensive error, let's try reading what I said once again:
You're right, it is virtually impossible for Tsunade to be city level because she hits harder than someone who has the mass of Islands behind their punches and moves significantly faster than her:
DTT
So you're saying Onoki doesn't use that jutsu to amplify his striking capabilities like I just showed with the Raikage, Like Kabuto recalled in the very same scan(with a flashback)and like when he busted a Clam summon?:
Once again, another Embarrassing comprehensive error on your account; the Raikage didnt hit a Wood clone, he hit the real deal. Secondly that statement is in regards to gaining his power when he was alive, nowhere does that suddenly mean Madara with no eyes is suddenly stronger than Edo Madara with the Rinnegan nor does it take anything away from the feats presented.
I also dont know what the hell a 'V3' Edo Madara is as he doesnt have different variants, seems to me like you're openly speaking out of ignorance. Madaras incomplete Susanoo has always consistently been around Island level, from tanking Kuramas BB, to the increased Mass punch of the Raikage, and even Guy's Hirudora:
Out of those attacks, Kuramas BB is the strongest; which correlates to Madara being stronger but not really changing anything about the argument. Madaras susanoo is Island level no matter which way you want to spin it.
3). Your third BS is trying to scale Tsunade to BM Naruto lmfao. Sage Mode Madara >>> Edo Madara for the reasons above, and not to mention Tsunade didn't even destroy or crack the V3 Susanoo. All she did was punch it and it fell. Like wtf???
Sage mode Madara with no eyes, is better than Edo Rinnegan Madara at using a Sharingan based technique? Stop talking.
Idk who you're trying to deceive by posting 6 tier of scaling all of which are horseshit.
No ones deceiving anything it's just you werent bright enough to catch onto these details.
Right...That's why she was at disbelief at village/town level attack from Pain lmao
Yea.....yelling 'unforgivable' is definitely in awe of the attack more than the amount of casualties.....Konoha town level when ONE of the districts boasts a canonical area of of over 300km?
I'll leave this here as well, seeing as reading is too difficult for you I could only imagine how math is for you:
The same battle where the 5 Kages were shitting their pants at mountain busting lmao
Mountain range* I see you arent even bright enough to read the stated 'mountainS' in the scan? So not only was a plural too hard for you to understand, but you somehow skipped over the picture which shows him splitting a mountain range by drawing his sword:
Amazing.
Do you know what a mountain range is? Those are gigantic land elevations that span +100 to +1000 of kilometres.
I'm pretty sure you're incapable of explaining or describing anything to me seeing as you've displayed the inability to read and view simple pictures accurately. So taking a picture of THE largest mountain range in the world in the Himalayas does what for your argument?
This is the Hidden Leaf Village:
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The village doesn't end in horizon, you wanker, and I've been to towns bigger than that.
Awesome thanks for the concession. The village goes beyond the Horizon from an Aerial view by your own words yet its 'town level' what a joke.
Your scaling is bunch of lies, and do you realize Tsunade/Sakura being mountain busters wouldn't make sense from narrative portrayal? Kishimoto emphasized up mountain busting as something far beyond the capacity of most Kage level fighters.
Feats > statements >>> feelings.
Sakura tanked a BB in the Novel, Guy is absurdly more powerful than Mountain level and was straight up fighting the Biju in 6th gate. Do you seriously think a hyped character statement speaks for Kishimoto himself? Kisame litterally hunted Biju for sport and both Kakashi and Guy can handle him as well as Itatchi whose a peer of Bee and KCM.
Titles are just titles, they mean nothing in the face of feats.
Not agitated, yet. Just pointing out how next to pathetic it is to have a hate boner for fictional characters as if it benefits you anything whatsoever.
You're confusing me with yourself.
imagine being so mentally unaware to suggest that Mass osnt a factor in how hard someone hits.
Good thing he's changing the weight and not mass. Furthermore, one of the fodders from Onoki's village confirms his Jutsu is changing the weight:
Like the object can weigh 1000 lbs and with Onoki's Earth Release: Light-Weight Rock Technique he could make it weigh as little as 1 lbs. The opposite principle applies to his Earth Release: Added-Weight Rock Technique. Comprender amigo?
So you're saying Onoki doesn't use that jutsu to amplify his striking capabilities like I just showed with the Raikage, Like Kabuto recalled in the very same scan(with a flashback)and like when he busted a Clam summon?:
No, because all he did was increase his weight high enough it crushed the clam. The same thing when he did it to Mu:
As evident by the ground being crushed as result of Mu's weight increase.
Once again and for the last time, Onoki is changing the weight. He ain't doing it with his physical strength, and Tsunade does not scale to weight manipulation Jutsu. He's an old midget with back problems.
Once again, another Embarrassing comprehensive error on your account; the Raikage didnt hit a Wood clone, he hit the real deal. Secondly that statement is in regards to gaining his power when he was alive, nowhere does that suddenly mean Madara with no eyes is suddenly stronger than Edo Madara with the Rinnegan nor does it take anything away from the feats presented.
Hashirama and Madara himself confirmed his living version >>> Edo version. Your headcanon is irrelevant.
I also dont know what the hell a 'V3' Edo Madara is as he doesnt have different variants, seems to me like you're openly speaking out of ignorance. Madaras incomplete Susanoo has always consistently been around Island level, from tanking Kuramas BB, to the increased Mass punch of the Raikage, and even Guy's Hirudora:
Susanoo has different stages with each stage having variable durability (They didn't put ribcage here):
Now to debunk your little lies of ''Incomplete'' Susanoo having island durability:
Firstly, Raikage's mass wasn't increased, it was his speed that was increased via Lightened Boulder Jutsu (which decreases weight):
There goes your Raikage having island mass to the dumpster where it belongs. Lel.
Hirudora is not island level either. Having AoE of island /=/ having DC/AP island busting. Even hurricanes can reach the size of countries yet all they do is uproot houses and toss cars around. Hirudora is just like a hurricane, it couldn't even kill Kisame who's your typical glass cannon ninja:
Kurama's Biju Dama isn't island busting either. It's mountain busting like any standard Biju Dama except Jubi's.
In short:
You can't tell the difference between mass and weight.
You tried to scale Tsunade's physicals to Onoki shifting the weight of targets.
You don't know Susanoo has different stages.
You're a trash debater.
Sage mode Madara with no eyes, is better than Edo Rinnegan Madara at using a Sharingan based technique? Stop talking.
The words of Hashirama and Madara >>> you.
No ones deceiving anything it's just you werent bright enough to catch onto these details.
Get your head out of your ass.
Yea.....yelling 'unforgivable' is definitely in awe of the attack more than the amount of casualties.....Konoha town level when ONE of the districts boasts a canonical area of of over 300km?
Prove Forest of Death is a district of the Hidden Leaf Village and is inside the village.
Mountain range* I see you arent even bright enough to read the stated 'mountainS' in the scan? So not only was a plural too hard for you to understand, but you somehow skipped over the picture which shows him splitting a mountain range by drawing his sword:
So he cut 2 mountain tops...wow, color me amazed. Btw, you missed the context. It doesn't matter if it was 1 mountain or 2 or 3...The whole narrative was showing mountain lvl capabilities are beyond the 5 Kages, which coincides with Kakashi and Gai instance:
Which makes sense with the general power levels, as Madara could solos the Akatsuki with the strongest member, Nagato, can oneshot Tsunade. Madara being able to cut multiple mountains, Nagato being able to destroy a village and Tsunade is fodder to both.
I'm pretty sure you're incapable of explaining or describing anything to me seeing as you've displayed the inability to read and view simple pictures accurately. So taking a picture of THE largest mountain range in the world in the Himalayas does what for your argument?
Even if I used the Rocky Mountains as an example, which has length of 4,800km and width of 300km, it still shows how stupid you are for thinking Hidden Leaf Village can house mountain range. The author calls it a damn village.
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Awesome thanks for the concession. The village goes beyond the Horizon from an Aerial view by your own words yet its 'town level' what a joke.
Read the definition of horizon. Learn English.
Sakura tanked a BB in the Novel, Guy is absurdly more powerful than Mountain level and was straight up fighting the Biju in 6th gate. Do you seriously think a hyped character statement speaks for Kishimoto himself? Kisame litterally hunted Biju for sport and both Kakashi and Guy can handle him as well as Itatchi whose a peer of Bee and KCM.
Good thing he's changing the weight and not mass. Furthermore, one of the fodders from Onoki's village confirms his Jutsu is changing the weight:
What a laughable strawman. Mass is literally how much matter is in an object, weight is how Gravity acts on that mass. Not to mention Mass is litterally Weight ÷ Gravity, and the Variable for Mass is KG. Onoki's jutsu is matter manipulation that works by adding or taking away from the weight of it; so yes, when I say things like:
You're right, it is virtually impossible for Tsunade to be city level because she hits harder than someone who has the mass of Islands behind their punches and moves significantly faster than her:
It isn't incorrect, Onoki manipulated the Mass of an island therefore I insinuated the Raikages punches have the mass of an island behind them. I fail to see what was so difficult to understand here even if it was a very, very, technical misuse of the term.
Like the object can weigh 1000 lbs and with Onoki's Earth Release: Light-Weight Rock Technique he could make it weigh as little as 1 lbs. The opposite principle applies to his Earth Release: Added-Weight Rock Technique. Comprender amigo?
Im pretty sure a five year old could come to this conclusion by merely taking a look at the scans presented, is this another strawman or are you literally just now catching up with everyone else?
No, because all he did was increase his weight high enough it crushed the clam. The same thing when he did it to Mu:
>Purposely went through the effort to do a punching based attack >Mizukage standing directly next to Onoki comments he needs more power behind the punch >Multiple instances of Onoki using his Weight Manipulation in conjunction with his striking >A completely different character referencing his weight manipulated punches >Direct on panel evidence of Onoki's weight manipulation increasing striking power
Yet SOMEHOW Onoki has never used his weight manipulation to amp his striking by your own words. Laughable.
As evident by the ground being crushed as result of Mu's weight increase.
Equating a physical strike that busted something to an incap by increasing its weight; You seem to be incapable of seeing the difference here, it's quite embarrassing.
Once again and for the last time, Onoki is changing the weight. He ain't doing it with his physical strength, and Tsunade does not scale to weight manipulation Jutsu. He's an old midget with back problems.
So Tsunade directly hits harder than Onoki increasing the weight of the Raikage....yet Tsunade can't be scaled to it's capability? You're honestly hilarious.
Hashirama and Madara himself confirmed his living version >>> Edo version. Your headcanon is irrelevant.
The irony here is baffling, never was that confirmed or even suggested to be true. Nor was it ever implicated towards Madara with no eyes. Provide anything other than a very vague Character statement that implicates Madara with No eyes suddenly can use Sharingan better than Edo Madara with Rinnegan.
Susanoo has different stages with each stage having variable durability (They didn't put ribcage here):
Wiki-termed trash that has no standing in canon whatsoever. I guess common sense couldn't let you piece together that ribcage is part of the skeletal structure eh? Also Madara doesn't have a skeletal susanoo, its either partial susanoo, incomplete, Full body, defensive, or Perfect.
Anyways, it litterally doesn't matter to anyone whose mastered Susanoo; they can clearly strengthen parts of their partial susanoo as evident by Sasuke being at ground 0 with Naruto when Momoshiki dropped the BB at the Chuunin exams.
Now to debunk your little lies of ''Incomplete'' Susanoo having island durability:
You're completely incapable of 'debunking' anything, the amount of misinformation, ignorance, bias, and continuous inability to read proves it to be above your paygrade.
Firstly, Raikage's mass wasn't increased, it was his speed that was increased via Lightened Boulder Jutsu (which decreases weight):
Wrong example, that was my bad actually, that was a punch from the Raikage that only managed to crack susanoo's ribcage; HERE is where Onoki increased the weight of the raikage to increase his striking power:
There goes your Raikage having island mass to the dumpster where it belongs. Lel.
Laughable. You also seem to have been picking up habbits from a certain someone seeing as you've taken a liking to his vocabulary; too bad you aren't as good as that individual you're attempting to emulate.
Hirudora is not island level either. Having AoE of island /=/ having DC/AP island busting. Even hurricanes can reach the size of countries yet all they do is uproot houses and toss cars around. Hirudora is just like a hurricane, it couldn't even kill Kisame who's your typical glass cannon ninja:
Really? So hurricanes are compressed blasts of air that expand outward instantly upon impact? Imagine being this inept, what do they have in common other than being air based?
Kurama's Biju Dama isn't island busting either. It's mountain busting like any standard Biju Dama except Jubi's.
Nice, a lacking context lowball; Not only did the attack bust through multiple rashomon gates that weakened it, it also crossed a sea on panel to get to the other side of the continent on the far side of the planet:
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In short:
Lel! the entire visage is stolen material, how embarrassing.
You can't tell the difference between mass and weight.
The Irony.
You tried to scale Tsunade's physicals to Onoki shifting the weight of targets.
Indeed, as of direct on panel evidence Tsunade hits harder than somebody much faster than her with added mass thanks to Onoki's weight manipulation.
You don't know Susanoo has different stages.
Meanwhile:
>You claim Onoki doesn't increase striking power with weight manip, despite showing a scan doing so yourself >Use Wiki over Canon >Claim Tsunade can't be scaled to Onoki's weight manip despite the two blatantly happening on the same page >Are under the Impression that weight doesn't significantly increase force, therefore striking power >by extension you don't seem to know what Force is or understand the laws of motion >Don't truly understand anything about Mass or Weight other than the fact their different words
You're a trash debater.
Coming from the guy whose dedicated years on this website to hating the same characters in the same threads only to get virtually no respect from anyone. Literally you could stop posting this very moment on and im certain nobody here would expend any effort in asking where you went. Seriously, go ask any viner whose been unlucky enough to view you in action and ask what they think of you.
Also on this note, we can CaV this very topic if you'd like. It'd make my day to see your reaction when you realize nobody buys the nonsense you're selling when it comes to votes.
The words of Hashirama and Madara >>> you.
Feats > Statements. Please, show me where its indicated Madara with no eyes is stronger than Edo Madara with rinnegan?
Get your head out of your ass.
Insults? Awesome, well my heads not up my ass it's up your mothers dress. I'm dying to know how something so worthless found its way here and why it feels the need to bother me.
Prove Forest of Death is a district of the Hidden Leaf Village and is inside the village.
Prove a canonical part of the Village since the very beginning of the series, one that has an entire arc dedicated to it, occupied solely by Konoha intelligence, and connected to other training grounds isn't inside the village? How about you go ahead and outline something that would even hint that something apart of the village suddenly isn't apart of the village.....
So he cut 2 mountain tops...wow, color me amazed. Btw, you missed the context. It doesn't matter if it was 1 mountain or 2 or 3...The whole narrative was showing mountain lvl capabilities are beyond the 5 Kages, which coincides with Kakashi and Gai instance:
I didn't miss the contex, it's just as I said you weren't bright enough to realize what a plural means and you yet again skipped over the fact that he split a MOUNTAIN RANGE. Kakashi and Guy's statements are meaningless in the face of feats in which case Guy is well over Mountain level, and even directly confronts the Biju while being in a form much weaker than his full capabilities.
Which makes sense with the general power levels, as Madara could solos the Akatsuki with the strongest member, Nagato, can oneshot Tsunade. Madara being able to cut multiple mountains, Nagato being able to destroy a village and Tsunade is fodder to both.
I can't logically follow this moronic drivel nor am I even going attempt to.
Even if I used the Rocky Mountains as an example, which has length of 4,800km and width of 300km, it still shows how stupid you are for thinking Hidden Leaf Village can house mountain range. The author calls it a damn village.
For those of you reading in 3rd person, I ask you again, how can anyone seriously be this Inept? So using some of the largest mountain ranges in the world proves Konoha can't house one? Even though the Kage Monument IS a mountain range?
I also wouldn't expect you to know the rockies are even larger than the Himalayas, astounding amount of ignorance displayed here.
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More unawareness, I guess Konoha no longer has borders.
Read the definition of horizon. Learn English.
Once again you display ignorance in more than just a fictional verse.
And all were shocked by mountain-busting. Lel
Which again, means nothing compared to feats. Anyways, I don't think I can tolerate your mental unawareness, cognitive impairment, extreme personal bias and emotional distress so I think im done here.
However if the time comes you want me to show you in a more personalized setting where everyone else can in-turn tell you about the garbage you're slinging than by all means let me know.
@dothetwist_: Last reply. Disagreement is one thing but throwing personal insults over a cartoon of all things is another. Grow up m8
Nah, someone provided a picture of you actually:
It isn't incorrect, Onoki manipulated the Mass of an island therefore I insinuated the Raikages punches have the mass of an island behind them. I fail to see what was so difficult to understand here even if it was a very, very, technical misuse of the term.
Underlined is headcanon. Onoki used two different Jutsu all together on instances of Turtle Island and Raikage respectively. You can't prove that in the Raikage example he had the mass of an island, because it was a different Jutsu than the one he lifted the island with. Apple and orange are 2 different things I'm afraid.
Yet SOMEHOW Onoki has never used his weight manipulation to amp his striking by your own words. Laughable.
Onoki simply tried to kill the clam by striking at first and failed. How does that disprove anything? It doesn't matter anyway. You cannot prove Onoki has the mass of an island when amping his strikes. He uses a different technique than when lifting Turtle Island. Increasing weight (or mass if you like) /=/ decreasing weight.
So Tsunade directly hits harder than Onoki increasing the weight of the Raikage....yet Tsunade can't be scaled to it's capability? You're honestly hilarious.
The irony here is baffling, never was that confirmed or even suggested to be true. Nor was it ever implicated towards Madara with no eyes. Provide anything other than a very vague Character statement that implicates Madara with No eyes suddenly can use Sharingan better than Edo Madara with Rinnegan.
Hashirama immobilized ET Madara with gates, Living Madara breaks from them.
Hashirama states Living Madara is regaining his past powers.
Living Madara has Sage Mode which amps his stats.
''Finally, I can fight for real''
Get reckt
Wiki? Head-canon.
I referenced wiki because it was easier. I'm not gonna go around searching for Susanoo variants when it's obvious.
Wiki-termed trash that has no standing in canon whatsoever. I guess common sense couldn't let you piece together that ribcage is part of the skeletal structure eh? Also Madara doesn't have a skeletal susanoo, its either partial susanoo, incomplete, Full body, defensive, or Perfect.
Anyways, it litterally doesn't matter to anyone whose mastered Susanoo; they can clearly strengthen parts of their partial susanoo as evident by Sasuke being at ground 0 with Naruto when Momoshiki dropped the BB at the Chuunin exams.
Which means your comparison falls apart, as each Susanoo has different durability. You tried to compare Raikage with Kurama's Biju Dama, despite each hitting a different Susanoo variant. And Adult Sasuke >>> Madara.
Wrong example, that was my bad actually, that was a punch from the Raikage that only managed to crack susanoo's ribcage; HERE is where Onoki increased the weight of the raikage to increase his striking power:
Addressed ^.
Laughable. You also seem to have been picking up habbits from a certain someone seeing as you've taken a liking to his vocabulary; too bad you aren't as good as that individual you're attempting to emulate.
Stop trying to write in a sophisticated manner when you fail big time.
Really? So hurricanes are compressed blasts of air that expand outward instantly upon impact? Imagine being this inept, what do they have in common other than being air based?
You tried to say Hirudora is island level because of how big it is, despite not having island lvl feats and I brought up hurricane example to show you AoE /=/ AP/DC. That and Kisame shrugged off Hirudora later on.
Nice, a lacking context lowball; Not only did the attack bust through multiple rashomon gates that weakened it, it also crossed a sea on panel to get to the other side of the continent on the far side of the planet:
I don't care about its momentum because it was amped by Perfect Susanoo sword. The explosion itself is mountain-sized, and Perfect Susanoo tanked the explosion putting its durability at mountain lvl at minimum.
Indeed, as of direct on panel evidence Tsunade hits harder than somebody much faster than her with added mass thanks to Onoki's weight manipulation.
She doesn't but you still can't put prove Raikage had the mass of an island when amped.
Coming from the guy whose dedicated years on this website to hating the same characters in the same threads only to get virtually no respect from anyone. Literally you could stop posting this very moment on and im certain nobody here would expend any effort in asking where you went. Seriously, go ask any viner whose been unlucky enough to view you in action and ask what they think of you.
Lmfao why would I care about what CV users think of me? You're a nobody, same goes for other viners. Get a life and stop taking battle forum too serious.
Also on this note, we can CaV this very topic if you'd like. It'd make my day to see your reaction when you realize nobody buys the nonsense you're selling when it comes to votes.
Sorry, don't CaV trash with attitude. Come back when you grow up and I'll reconsider.
Insults? Awesome, well my heads not up my ass it's up your mothers dress. I'm dying to know how something so worthless found its way here and why it feels the need to bother me.
Mother insult is so old
Prove a canonical part of the Village since the very beginning of the series, one that has an entire arc dedicated to it, occupied solely by Konoha intelligence, and connected to other training grounds isn't inside the village? How about you go ahead and outline something that would even hint that something apart of the village suddenly isn't apart of the village.....
Because in all of Hidden Leaf Village's depictions, it's nowhere to be found and nowhere near the size of what you're implying it to be. Plus if FOD is 300km then that would make the total area of village some 500km to 1000km or more, which means it dwarfs a state like Texas. You literally have to be delusional to come to that conclusion. Not only Hidden Leaf Village in all of its depiction is no where near the size of a modern city, but that would contradict Pain's goal of obtaining a forbidden Jutsu to wipe out a country; if, according to you, Konoha is country-sized, he wouldn't need that. And finally, country level became a thing when the 10 Tails came along.
I didn't miss the contex, it's just as I said you weren't bright enough to realize what a plural means and you yet again skipped over the fact that he split a MOUNTAIN RANGE. Kakashi and Guy's statements are meaningless in the face of feats in which case Guy is well over Mountain level, and even directly confronts the Biju while being in a form much weaker than his full capabilities.
Confronting a Tailed Beast doesn't make you country level, and their statements are not meaningless because they are from the author who believes that and hold more credibility than all of your nonsense scaling. You have yet to post a panel of Tsunade busting a mountain or city-block for that matter.
I can't logically follow this moronic drivel nor am I even going attempt to.
I know you can't, with that peanut sized brain of yours.
For those of you reading in 3rd person, I ask you again, how can anyone seriously be this Inept? So using some of the largest mountain ranges in the world proves Konoha can't house one? Even though the Kage Monument IS a mountain range?
Hokage monument is a mountain, not a mountain range lmao.
More unawareness, I guess Konoha no longer has borders.
Which again, means nothing compared to feats. Anyways, I don't think I can tolerate your mental unawareness, cognitive impairment, extreme personal bias and emotional distress so I think im done here.
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