Tsunade and Mei vs Robin and Hancock

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#1 Edited by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio
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In character, no knowledge, win by any means, fight in a kitchen

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#2 Posted by easterlin74 (503 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto team. Tsunade and Mei are able to one shot if they land hits and Tsunade is very high on durability.

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#4 Posted by decaf_wizard (17255 posts) - - Show Bio

>fight in a kitchen

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#5 Posted by DrunkHC (750 posts) - - Show Bio

Tsunade is one of the best manga supports she can heal Mei, defend her with her kaiju slug can also enlarge Mei's chakra as her elemental shots.

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#6 Edited by deactivated-5ad6141e8751d (1716 posts) - - Show Bio

not my hancock

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#7 Posted by DrunkHC (750 posts) - - Show Bio

I see the Naruto duo with better synergy.
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#8 Posted by jplaya2023 (808 posts) - - Show Bio

i was thinking of a different hancock and a different robin

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#9 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

Boa solos.

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#10 Posted by CaptFalcon725 (1360 posts) - - Show Bio

Not as up to date on One Piece lore, but I don't see how team Naruto loses. Are all versions current? If so I can do some research and come back.

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#11 Posted by Earendill (1575 posts) - - Show Bio

Mei easily solos.

Tsunade shit diff.

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#12 Posted by utkanflash (2422 posts) - - Show Bio

Boa is almost featless and the mechanics of her devil fruit is very unknown. And Robin is total missmatch here.

On the otherside Naruto Duo has far better feats and portrayals.

If ı have to choose ı would go with Kunoichis

Plus with Tsunade's boost any destructive attack of mei could one shot.

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#13 Edited by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

Boa is almost featless and the mechanics of her devil fruit is very unknown. And Robin is total missmatch here.

On the otherside Naruto Duo has far better feats and portrayals.

If ı have to choose ı would go with Kunoichis

Plus with Tsunade's boost any destructive attack of mei could one shot.

No she isn't, not it isn't and no she isn't.

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#14 Posted by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

How does Handcock work in battle threads?

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#16 Posted by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

How does Handcock work in battle threads?

...Like everyone else?

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#17 Posted by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

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How does Handcock work in battle threads?

...Like everyone else?

Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about how her power mechanics functions in these types of thread. Are we suppose to be under the impression that she can turn everyone to stone? Whose to say Tsunade and Mei are attracted to her?

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#18 Posted by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

@socajunkie said:
@yassassin said:

How does Handcock work in battle threads?

...Like everyone else?

Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about how her power mechanics functions in these types of thread. Are we suppose to be under the impression that she can turn everyone to stone? Whose to say Tsunade and Mei are attracted to her?

I'm not being obtuse, what the hell was I supposed to gather from your comment? It could have meant anything.

Her power is explained that anyone who thinks thinks she's attractive gets turned to stone and the power has worked on women before so it doesn't matter if you're straight.

Anyway, powers are able to work on people from different universes for simplification.

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#19 Posted by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@socajunkie said:
@yassassin said:

How does Handcock work in battle threads?

...Like everyone else?

Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about how her power mechanics functions in these types of thread. Are we suppose to be under the impression that she can turn everyone to stone? Whose to say Tsunade and Mei are attracted to her?

Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

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#20 Posted by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

She can also just do so when striking, instant one-shot.

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@socajunkie said:
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Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

She can also just do so when striking, instant one-shot.

And it's very in-character for Robin to just neck snap. She can sprout hands on their body which will catch them off-guard for at least a few seconds, a time frame that is is more than enough for Boa to launch her attack and turn them into stone. I say this because I'm not sure Team 2 has a speed advantage if you scale the Kunoichi to other Kage, and this is a quick draw battle as both duos can one-shot their opponent in some way.

The mindset in place here is what seals the deal.

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#22 Posted by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin said:
@socajunkie said:
@yassassin said:

How does Handcock work in battle threads?

...Like everyone else?

Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about how her power mechanics functions in these types of thread. Are we suppose to be under the impression that she can turn everyone to stone? Whose to say Tsunade and Mei are attracted to her?

Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

Like it did Luffy and The Vice Admiral who used pain as a distraction?

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#23 Posted by olajoe1 (563 posts) - - Show Bio

Tsunade Blitz and One shots Both of them.

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#24 Posted by TheBeardOfZues (2801 posts) - - Show Bio

I could see team OP win.

Mei is super flirty and will probably get turned to Stone.

Then it's 2v1

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@yassassin said:
@god_vulcan said:

Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

Like it did Luffy and The Vice Admiral who used pain as a distraction?

Luffy is asexual and the Vice Admiral had full knowledge on Hancock, neither of which apply here so both of these are moot points and once again she can transmute by touch as well.

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#26 Posted by DrunkHC (750 posts) - - Show Bio

Mei and Robin are weak in hand-to-hand combat, Tsunade and Boa could probably kill each other, a punch or kick fully magnified by godaime chakra or a Hancock coup combined with their hax all depends on who would fit a strong blow first.

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@yassassin said:
@god_vulcan said:

Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

Like it did Luffy and The Vice Admiral who used pain as a distraction?

Luffy is asexual and the Vice Admiral had full knowledge on Hancock, neither of which apply here so both of these are moot points.

Plus Vice Admirals likely have halfway passable Haki too

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#28 Edited by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

Mei's too quick on the draw seeing as she was able to intercepting meteorites only dozens of meters away from her village.

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Robin and Hancock are out of their depth in speed.

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#29 Posted by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_vulcan said:
@yassassin said:
@socajunkie said:
@yassassin said:

How does Handcock work in battle threads?

...Like everyone else?

Don't be obtuse, I'm talking about how her power mechanics functions in these types of thread. Are we suppose to be under the impression that she can turn everyone to stone? Whose to say Tsunade and Mei are attracted to her?

Whose to say they aren't? Her Mero beams will transmute them to stone regardless of whether they're attracted to her anyway.

Like it did Luffy and The Vice Admiral who used pain as a distraction?

I'm sure you know why Luffy is an exception, and you literally just said the reason why Momonga wasn't effected... plus I'm pretty sure he already had knowledge on her powers and what they could do, that's why he stabbed himself to counter it. That's not the situation we have here, as Tsunade and Mei have no knowledge on their opponent and by the time they get exposed to the beam they'd be defeated.

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Mei's too quick on the draw seeing as she was able to intercepting meteorites only a dozens of meters away from her village.

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Robin and Hancock are out of their depth in speed.

Re-entry speed is only mach 25 and you can see a meteor approaching from outer space. Not only was she likely on-guard, she had more than enough time to prepare and it still isn't that fast.

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@god_vulcan said:
@yassassin said:

Mei's too quick on the draw seeing as she was able to intercepting meteorites only a dozens of meters away from her village.

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Robin and Hancock are out of their depth in speed.

Re-entry speed is only mach 25 and you can see a meteor approaching from outer space. She had more than enough time to prepare and was likely on-guard and it still isn't that fast.

We literally see her doing the hand signs for the jutsu as the meteors are coming so no, she wasn't prepped or anything, and hell for added measure she does two completely different moves, and what has any one of one team two done to prove that they are faster then re-entry speed?

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#32 Posted by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea characters portrayed below Hancock have reacted to meteors, it isn't all that and this fight isn't unfair.

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#33 Posted by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea characters portrayed below Hancock have reacted to meteors, it isn't all that and this fight isn't unfair.

Who?

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#34 Edited by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

Hancock's transmutation isn't limited to her beam:

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@socajunkie said:

Yea characters portrayed below Hancock have reacted to meteors, it isn't all that and this fight isn't unfair.

Who?

Law.

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#36 Posted by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin said:
@socajunkie said:

Yea characters portrayed below Hancock have reacted to meteors, it isn't all that and this fight isn't unfair.

Who?

Law.

What? In what world is Law Portrayed lower then Boa? She's done nothing to lead to that assumption.

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#37 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin:

what has any one of one team two done to prove that they are faster then re-entry speed?

Robin doesn't really use her speed in battles, but Boa scales above Marigold and Sandersonia who kept up with Pre-TS Gear Second Luffy who's much faster than mach 25.

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#39 Edited by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin:

what has any one of one team two done to prove that they are faster then re-entry speed?

Robin doesn't really use her speed in battles, but Boa scales above Marigold and Sandersonia who kept up with Pre-TS Gear Second Luffy who's much faster than mach 25.

Based on . . .?Cause if we're doing the scaling stuff, I can bullshit my way into putting Mei at lightning speed.

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Oh yeah, she tagged a Pacifista and who can solo the Pre-TS Strawhats. PX-1 was portrayed to be much faster than Luffy too.

Mooks with Guns were tagging Pastifista in the the Mainforde war. Tagging them was never the problem, hurting them was. Hell Chopper even hitting one.

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#41 Edited by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin said:
@socajunkie said:
@yassassin said:
@socajunkie said:

Yea characters portrayed below Hancock have reacted to meteors, it isn't all that and this fight isn't unfair.

Who?

Law.

What? In what world is Law Portrayed lower then Boa? She's done nothing to lead to that assumption.

The way Marines talk about her, her standing as a Pirate Empress when Law was still a a rookie and casually fodderizing Pacifistas whereas pre-time skip Law needed the help of another Supernova and both their crews to barely beat one, so at best you can argue current Law is on par with her.

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@yassassin:

Based on . . .?

iirc base Luffy could time explosions when he fought Foxy. Their expansion speed is around 6,800 to 8,050 mps or 19x the speed of sound (Sources: 1,2,3).

G2 Is many times faster.

Cause if we're doing the scaling stuff, I can bullshit my way into putting Mei at lightning speed.

Who said anything about lightning speed?

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Hancock's transmutation isn't limited to her beam:

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Can people recover from the transmutation?

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#44 Posted by deactivated-5c07a0327fd39 (4592 posts) - - Show Bio

Mei's too quick on the draw seeing as she was able to intercepting meteorites only dozens of meters away from her village.

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Robin and Hancock are out of their depth in speed.

The Kage defending against the meteors was pretty damn impressive.

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@socajunkie: @god_vulcan:

Their expansion speed is around 6,800 to 8,050 mps or 19x the speed of sound (Sources: 1,2,3).

Explosion speed is based on the material used, they can range from mach 1 to mach 100. Look at your own examples they each use different materials in each case: TNT and C4, and that's why they came up with different speeds. It's not 6800 to 8,050, it's 6800 OR 8050. Another thing, 6800 mps is about mach 9 and 8050 is about 11, I don't know where you got mach 19. So unless you got proof of the actual material Foxy used for all we know it could have been a black powered bomb which blows at mach 2.

The way Marines talk about her, her standing as a Pirate Empress when Law was still a a rookie

Yes, the's impressive to Law Pre-Timeskip, but that's not the one that's reacted to the meteor, prove that she has anything on him now. Rept doesn't mean nothing in One Piece, else you think Buggy is really something to behold.

nd casually fodderizing Pacifistas whereas pre-time skip Law needed the help of another Supernova and both their crews to barely beat one

Because she had haki. Beating the Pasti isn't impressive mooks, on White Beard crew where shooting them down.

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The only reason all the Supernova were struggling with them is because they didn't have Haki.

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#46 Edited by SocaJunkie (9323 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin:Yes, the's impressive to Law Pre-Timeskip, but that's not the one that's reacted to the meteor, prove that she has anything on him now. Rept doesn't mean nothing in One Piece, else you think Buggy is really something to behold.

No, rep means quite a lot in One Piece actually, especially for the characters who don't have feats but we know they're powerful anyway. The Buggy example doesn't work because that's false rep.

One-shotting Pacifistas is on the same level as what Post-skip Luffy can do who was a peer to Law.

Because she had haki.

Haki had nothing to do with it since she used her power to one-shot them.

Beating the Pasti isn't impressive mooks, on White Beard crew where shooting them down.

Then by logic said mooks are as strong as the pre-time skip crew.

The only reason all the Supernova were struggling with them is because they didn't have Haki.

Boa didn't use haki on the androids, she used her power.

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#47 Posted by Sy8000 (36003 posts) - - Show Bio

@yassassin:

The only reason all the Supernova were struggling with them is because they didn't have Haki.

I don't think low tier Whitebeard pirates do either and Haki would only give a striking boost against Pacifista.

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@yassassin:

The only reason all the Supernova were struggling with them is because they didn't have Haki.

I don't think low tier Whitebeard pirates do either and Haki would only give a striking boost against Pacifista.

Why not? Random island girls knew it, also no, Haki also increases you're weapons penetration power as well. Have you forgotten about the Amazon Lily arc?

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#49 Posted by Yassassin (7798 posts) - - Show Bio

Ya heard it hear first guys, unnamed guy with a tie>Strawhat crew.

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