Tsukishima and Fullbring Ichigo vs Monster Aizen

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- Tsukishima is Fullbring Arc version

- Ichigo is Complete Fullbring Ichigo.

- Aizen is in his final Hogyoku fused form.

- Both sides are in character.

- Manga/Novel/Anime feats for all characters.

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LMAO no!

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Not even close Base Aizen could beat them pretty easily. Anything above is a stomp.

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Aizen stomp them fodder ,

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Aizen two shots.

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No.

OT: even base aizen can win, fullbringers even with the ichigo's fullbring boost are at best captain level, who aizen trashed in base

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Book of no end, gg.

Team stomps Aizen. Reason? Tsukishima. His sword is a perfect counter to hogyoku. A few facts:

- Aizen has no knowledge or interest in the fullbringers. He doesn't know Tsukishima. He will not respect him and his ability.

- Tsukishima never saw Aizen's sword release, besides, kyoka suigetsu will not be used here IC anyway, monster Aizen didn't use it once. My point is, Tsukishima will not be initially hypnotized or fooled.

- Aizen in this form is an arrogant prick who allows himself to be attacked all the time. He was tagged by every person he's fought casually. Urahara tagged him dozens of times. So did Ishin, so did Yoruichi, so did Gin, so did Ichigo.

Aizen learned IMMORTALITY!

But... Aizen already knows 4 moves.

Delete one move to make room for IMMORTALITY?

Yes.

You deleted DODGE.

Aizen learned IMMORTALITY!

All of this points in one direction - when the fight starts, Tsukishima swings at Aizen, and Aizen allows him to attack, sensing his power is too weak to be any threat. And Tsukishima uses book of no end. Aaaaand GG

1. Inserts himself in Aizen's past.

2. Makes himself the actual master of hogyoku in Aizen's past.

3. Hogyoku in the present betrays Aizen, transfers to Tsukishima, giving him immortality and power to evolve indefinitely. From that point on Tsukishima slowly but surely gains ground and eventually wins.

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@thoromdil: you seem to forget that once aizen got his butterfly form he was disintegrating people that got too close. Tsukishima doesn't have nearly enough reiatsu to prevent that. Also it's very in much in character for aizen to use fraggor which instantly one shots both

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@theemperor95: unlikely. Aizen's reiatsu couldn't be SENSED by others but it certainly was not disintegrating or incapacitating captain level characters like Tsukishima. Gin was able to approach, attack and wound monster Aizen no problem. Same with Urahara, Ishin and Yoruichi. Tsukishima should be comparable to them in power, he fought post KK town arc Byakuya pretty evenly. He will not have problems repeating his feat.

As for fragor, Aizen doesn't start a fight with fragor. He used it after 10 minutes of showing off and 20 minutes of dialogue, when he actually felt threatened. I'm not saying Aizen can't kill Tsukishima. He obviously could fart him out if existance. But IC Aizen will get tagged by book of no end long before hedoes that. And once it touches him, it's gg.

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@thoromdil: gin never touched monster aizen. He interacted with post chrysalis aizen and then got immediately one shot by butterfly aizen. All of these characters you're referencing fought a vastly weaker aizen then the one used here

No immediately after aizen attained his monster form he shot fraggor at dangai ichigo. It was his first move. Not to mention that even using book of the end is kinda moot since it won't do anything. Aizen would have no problem killing him just like byakuya and if kisuke couldn't subjugate the hogyoku then neither is tsukishima

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Book of end will wreck Aizen.

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Gin actually got harmed by Aizen nearly touching him:

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And this is from 2nd Form Aizen, the team is fighting 4th Form Aizen who is in a completely different league to all of his prior forms.

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...Fam, really? Aizen stomps.

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@thoromdil: gin never touched monster aizen. He interacted with post chrysalis aizen and then got immediately one shot by butterfly aizen. All of these characters you're referencing fought a vastly weaker aizen then the one used here

Dude, I know. Aizen at that point was evolving every 2 minutes. I'm not saying Gin or Ishin or Ichigo all fought the same version of Aizen. Obviously his power grew and grew all the time. But his mindset was very consistent. He was completely detouched from reality, he allowed himself to be tagged by everyone all the time just so he could smirk in their face and one shot them. This is his consistent attitude. I see no reason why he wouldn't allow Tsukishima to attack him, it would be completely out of character for him to just stomp him right away.

No immediately after aizen attained his monster form he shot fraggor at dangai ichigo. It was his first move.

Yes, but he felt threatened, he was concerned Ichigo evolved past him or gained strength superior to his own and that's why he went all serious. This is a completely different scenario. This Ichigo is nearly powerless, and Tsukihima has reiatsu on captain level. Aizen will absolutely underestimate them both, and all Tsukishima needs is a single contact.

Not to mention that even using book of the end is kinda moot since it won't do anything. Aizen would have no problem killing him just like byakuya

Byakuya didn't have hogyoku, which is an obvious target for book of no end. Tsukishima had to work through Byakuya's abilities to beat him, here, all he needs to do is insert himself in Aizen's past and take contro lover hogyoku.

and if kisuke couldn't subjugate the hogyoku then neither is tsukishima

Urahara didn't know how to do it. But once Tsukishima uses book of no end, he gains access to everything Aizen learned about hogyoku, including how to subdue it. You underestimate book of no end. Tsukishima has unlimited time to insert himself in Aizen's past. He can insert himself in his every moment, every second of his centuries long life, and he can do whatever he wants in there. He can become his father figure, his god, his only friend, he can do anything. He can switch places with Aizen when he fed souls to hogyoku. He can switch places with Aizen when he was using it in Hueco Mundo. He can change the past to make sure Aizen never masters the hogyoku at all. And hogyoku is very easily switching authorities. All it took for it to betray Aizen was a slight glimpse of Aizen being overpowered for a moment. When Aizen past gets altered and hogyoku learns it's tsukishima who actually mastered it, not Aizen, it will switch sides in a split second.

And once again, I fully acknowledge Aizen can one shot Tsukishima, but we both know he won't do it. Ironically, pre-hogyoku Aizen would defeat Tsukishima rather easily. But monster Aizen is so cocky he'd never just kill Tsukishima without attempting to humiliate him first, and once Tsukishima touches him even once, it's all over.

Aizen get's wrecked.

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Aizen in a stomp lmao fullbring Ichigo, might as well be start of the series Ichigo. Tsukishima can’t even cut Aizen.

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@thoromdil said:

Book of no end, gg.

Team stomps Aizen. Reason? Tsukishima. His sword is a perfect counter to hogyoku. A few facts:

- Aizen has no knowledge or interest in the fullbringers. He doesn't know Tsukishima. He will not respect him and his ability.

- Tsukishima never saw Aizen's sword release, besides, kyoka suigetsu will not be used here IC anyway, monster Aizen didn't use it once. My point is, Tsukishima will not be initially hypnotized or fooled.

- Aizen in this form is an arrogant prick who allows himself to be attacked all the time. He was tagged by every person he's fought casually. Urahara tagged him dozens of times. So did Ishin, so did Yoruichi, so did Gin, so did Ichigo.

Aizen learned IMMORTALITY!

But... Aizen already knows 4 moves.

Delete one move to make room for IMMORTALITY?

Yes.

You deleted DODGE.

Aizen learned IMMORTALITY!

All of this points in one direction - when the fight starts, Tsukishima swings at Aizen, and Aizen allows him to attack, sensing his power is too weak to be any threat. And Tsukishima uses book of no end. Aaaaand GG

1. Inserts himself in Aizen's past.

2. Makes himself the actual master of hogyoku in Aizen's past.

3. Hogyoku in the present betrays Aizen, transfers to Tsukishima, giving him immortality and power to evolve indefinitely. From that point on Tsukishima slowly but surely gains ground and eventually wins.

Honestly this^^^^ seems 100% plausible.

Along with post 16, I’m convinced for the most part, Tsukishima wins.

People forget how hax Book of No End is.

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Aizen stomps.

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@invadedtbd: yeah. People definitely forget how strong book of no end is. I mean Tsukishima even used it to reverse Yhwachs attack, and Yhwach literally controls time and probability. Book of no end is no joke. High reiatsu is not gonna save Aizen this time.