Trigon vs Dormammu

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#2  Edited By OldIdiotAccount

Trigon.

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#4  Edited By lord_oraculous016

Trigon edges him out..

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#6  Edited By lordraiden

Dormy, without too many issues.
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@lordraiden said:
"Dormy, without too many issues. "

@lord_oraculous016 said:
"Trigon edges him out.. "

@Achilles. said:
"Trigon "

@Fortanono said:
"Trigon. "

Arguments for and against would be nice as this is a debate : )
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#8  Edited By lordraiden


 
 

 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 


 
 

Any being who is powerfull enough to either trap or take on Eternity more than once, is a very powerfull and feared being.  As powerfull as Trigon is written/percieved to be, I just don't believe that DC have put him on par with someone like Dormammu, who's a constant threat to 616, not just a team. I believe Dormammu has more feats that are constant and put him where he is.
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#9  Edited By CosmicSpiral

Both of them have been slacking lately. 

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Dormammu should win

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@lordraiden:
And yet he has on many occasions shown power levels significantly lower than being able to imprison Eternity (I'm ignoring the fact that this was written a long time ago when character power levels fluctuated more than my bank account). 
So I'm looking at his more consistent power level - something more in line with sky-fathers. 
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#12  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
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" @lordraiden:  (I'm ignoring the fact that this was written a long time ago when character power levels fluctuated more than my bank account). "
Hahaha, good to see you creator.
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#13  Edited By the creator
@Morpheus_: 
 
Hi Morpheus. Hope things are well with you.
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#14  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@the creator said:
" @Morpheus_:  Hi Morpheus. Hope things are well with you. "
I try. And you?
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I'm good. Got a night off from the girlfriend so I'm relaxing on the Vine : )
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#16  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@the creator said:
" @Morpheus_:  I'm good. Got a night off from the girlfriend so I'm relaxing on the Vine : ) "
Sounds nice. Glad you're doing well my friend.
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@lordraiden: Dormammu was only able to take on Eternity when a shift in the cosmic axis gave him the power to do so. He's not close to Eternity's level on a normal basis.
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#18  Edited By Silver2467
@CosmicSpiral said:
" Both of them have been slacking lately.  "
This is true. 
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#19  Edited By King_Saturn
I would take Trigon here... sure Dormammu has had some High End feats with Trapping Eternity... but Trigon for the most part is a Universe and Dimension buster... I think he could pull this one out in a tough fight... minus the PIS obviously...
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#20  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Silver2467 said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Both of them have been slacking lately.  "
This is true.  "
Did you see his appearance in Doctor Voodoo? Beaten by skulls and ravens. The Dread Lord's stock has fallen far. 
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#21  Edited By King_Saturn
@CosmicSpiral said:
" @Silver2467 said:
" @CosmicSpiral said:
" Both of them have been slacking lately.  "
This is true.  "
Did you see his appearance in Doctor Voodoo? Beaten by skulls and ravens. The Dread Lord's stock has fallen far.  "
everyone has to fall sometime
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#22  Edited By Nelomaxwell
@CosmicSpiral: Let's not underestimate Dr Voodoo the Loa are pretty powerful.
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#23  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Nelomaxwell said:
" @CosmicSpiral: Let's not underestimate Dr Voodoo the Loa are pretty powerful. "
Dormammu used to be Classic Strange's prime enemy. Half the time he lost because he has to keep promises not to directly attack Strange, making all his plans convoluted and strange. But now he gets punked on his own turf by someone who just gained the power and is drawing upon the power of weaker deities? *shakes head*
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#24  Edited By Nelomaxwell
@CosmicSpiral: Weaker dieties you must no nothing of the Loa. of course I'm speaking from the stand point of  a practitioner but I don't think their so much weaker as lesser used because they're inherently Afro/Haitian and their aren't that many Afro/Haitian superheroes.
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#25  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Nelomaxwell said:
" @CosmicSpiral: Weaker dieties you must no nothing of the Loa. of course I'm speaking from the stand point of  a practitioner but I don't think their so much weaker as lesser used because they're inherently Afro/Haitian and their aren't that many Afro/Haitian superheroes. "
A practitioner? Cool. Tell me more. 
 
I'm not being ignorant of the Loa's powers. But they have to show me a lot more to convince me they're on the level of the Vishanti. 
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#26  Edited By Outside_85

 
 
You can see Fate's helmet under Hawkman's carcass, bear in mind this is a future that didnt come to pass in the Booster Gold series that showed what would have happened if the Teen Titans had not been around to stop Trigon, also they find a Kyle Rayner without any knowledge of becoming a GL (not sure wich version of Fate that would have been around at the time). 
 
 
 
And what happened the last time Trigon visited Earth.
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@CosmicSpiral said:
" @Nelomaxwell said:
" @CosmicSpiral: Weaker dieties you must no nothing of the Loa. of course I'm speaking from the stand point of  a practitioner but I don't think their so much weaker as lesser used because they're inherently Afro/Haitian and their aren't that many Afro/Haitian superheroes. "
A practitioner? Cool. Tell me more.  I'm not being ignorant of the Loa's powers. But they have to show me a lot more to convince me they're on the level of the Vishanti.  "
The Loa are skyfather level group of gods just like the Norse, Egyptian, Olympian, Japanese and other mythical gods. All of these gods except for Mikaboshi were descendants of the Elder Gods. So they are weaker than the Elders. The Vishianti are Principality level group of extra-dimensional abstracts above Elder gods. Oshter may have once been a daughter of the Elder Gods, but when she was taken as a part of the Vishianti, her omnipotence became multiversal.
 
 
 
 @CosmicSpiral said:
" @Nelomaxwell said:
" @CosmicSpiral: Let's not underestimate Dr Voodoo the Loa are pretty powerful. "
Dormammu used to be Classic Strange's prime enemy. Half the time he lost because he has to keep promises not to directly attack Strange, making all his plans convoluted and strange. But now he gets punked on his own turf by someone who just gained the power and is drawing upon the power of weaker deities? *shakes head* "

Well sometimes, Dormammu invokes on entities much more powerful than he. Cyttorak for instance. Oh and if you're talking about Dr. Strange on the last sentence than what dieties to you speak who are weaker than Principalities like Dormammu?
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@ThaJuggernautKick said:

" @CosmicSpiral said:

" @Nelomaxwell said:
" @CosmicSpiral: Weaker dieties you must no nothing of the Loa. of course I'm speaking from the stand point of  a practitioner but I don't think their so much weaker as lesser used because they're inherently Afro/Haitian and their aren't that many Afro/Haitian superheroes. "
A practitioner? Cool. Tell me more.  I'm not being ignorant of the Loa's powers. But they have to show me a lot more to convince me they're on the level of the Vishanti.  "
The Loa are skyfather level group of gods just like the Norse, Egyptian, Olympian, Japanese and other mythical gods. All of these gods except for Mikaboshi were descendants of the Elder Gods. So they are weaker than the Elders. The Vishianti are Principality level group of extra-dimensional abstracts above Elder gods. Oshter may have once been a daughter of the Elder Gods, but when she was taken as a part of the Vishianti, her omnipotence became multiversal.
Typically only the head figure of the pantheons are considered skyfathers, and they are skyfathers in more than name. When Odin passed on his title to Thor, Thor needed to inherit the Odinforce to be his father's equal and only surpassed him by exceeding Odin's own trials.   
 
The Elder Gods are merely the forerunners of the pantheons, not their superiors by any means. Chthon and Set devoured their own kind to increase their power while others like Oshtur increased their own through knowledge. 
 
Oshtur was an Elder God and mastered magic. Her power was already considerable before she created the Vishanti, and there's no indication that it was increased by the union.   
 
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Well sometimes, Dormammu invokes on entities much more powerful than he. Cyttorak for instance. Oh and if you're talking about Dr. Strange on the last sentence than what dieties to you speak who are weaker than Principalities like Dormammu? "

Invoking another entity does not mean that you are weaker than that entity. It means the entity is powerful in the specific type of task you seek to perform i.e. Cyttorak is well-known for binding spells so someone like Dormammu or Strange invokes that particular spell. Strange himself had invoked spells tied to Dormammu before he learned his true nature.  
 
I'm talking about Doctor Voodoo. 
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#29  Edited By BlackDove
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"I would take Trigon here... sure Dormammu has had some High End feats with Trapping Eternity... but Trigon for the most part is a Universe and Dimension buster... I think he could pull this one out in a tough fight... minus the PIS obviously... "

Agreed.
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#30  Edited By Cesarhulk123

I know nothing of Trigon except that-- it very much seems like the creator was reading Doctor Strange when he thought of him.

But anyways Dormammu has held his own with Agamotto who is literally the Mystical power of light (Agamotto's appearance alone draws back the extra dimensional demonic entity Nightmare) aswell Dormy has defeated the Phoenix Force. And don't forget being made out of pure mystical energy Dormammu can't die, as long as there is someone in some dimension who would worship him.

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trigon wins

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Trigon should win.

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Whenever I think Trigon, this is the scan I come back to.

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Dorammu summoning Cyttorak. Win.

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Dorammu summoning Cyttorak. Win.

Why would Dormammu summon Cyttorak and how would Cyttorak win this for him ..

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@cadencev2 said:

Dorammu summoning Cyttorak. Win.

Why would Dormammu summon Cyttorak and how would Cyttorak win this for him ..

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@cadencev2: LOL no idea what to add, although nothing there talks about Cyttorak :p i was surprised to see him being mentioned.

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I think Trigon could win this actually.

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@cadencev2: LOL no idea what to add, although nothing there talks about Cyttorak :p i was surprised to see him being mentioned.

I thought Obama summon Cyttorak to win his election both times. So I thought Dormammu could do the same to beat Trigon.

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#43  Edited By LiquidNazo

Dormammamu.

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seems dormammu finally found someone just as powerful. (not counting the beings stronger)

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Trigon in my opinion

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Trigon


He feels more impressive (Although Dormammu was cool in the video games)

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#47  Edited By Kingant27

Dormammu, his best feat is better than Trigon's IMO.

Both now are disappointing, they need a reboot.

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Trigon fully actualized in a realm would conquer DC earth.

Dormammu loses to Dr. Strange and Doctor/Brother Voodoo in a straight up fight?