Toshiro, Byakuya and Kenpachi Vs Jigen

Team, easily, Kenny just has to brawl until Absolute zero kicks in and Jigen isn't beating a all-out Kenny in that small period of time, infact Kenny doesn't even have to go Bankai, just Shikai with no eye-patch will suffice. Byakuya is a nonfactor.

Kenny could solo

Team takes it :D

Toshiro can win by himself

Toshiro flash freezes

Jigen lolstomps

Jigen blitzes/rods them

Byakuya isnt adding anything this fight

Jigen

Jigen>>Naruto+Sasuke>>>>>>>>>Kuchiki+Kenny+Toshiro

@manimalman: Byakuya is like the most useful one here bro

Senbonzakura Kageyoshi actually hard counters Jigen's shrinking ability

I didn't even consider this. Without his shrinking it's definitely gonna be easier for the team to win.

@sp4ce: I don't think so, he can become small enough to fit between any gaps in the shards if he does somehow get cornered he can teleport away from them.

Theres also not really much stopping him from appearing behind byakuya and leaving some rods in his head

^^ he can teleport, and they cant really tell where he is, he an even store senbonzakura petals in a space where time is frozen and attack the team with it, stat wise he outstats them and can oneshot them with a kick, and most importantly, they can't really detect him or his whereabouts, kenny is highly useless in this fight.

can't detect him

@uchihaghost: unless he can hide his spiritual energy he’s being detected.

Hitsugaya solos

Lol kenpachi could kill azishiro who can turn into air molecules. Unless jigen can shrink to atomic level kenpachi won't have a problem detecting him. Also soul reapers can see reshi particles which are atomic.

Toshiro is a hard counter. Jigen has to kill him immediately or he is going to freeze to death. Cold like that is actually a bigger problem when you're extremely small.

Full intel though I'd give it to Jigen still. No knowledge and in character I'd give Toshiro the win in a minority cause if he sees holes start appearing in Kenpachi there is no chance he doesn't just say fuck it and go full ice age.

Well the three captains take it quite easily since Kenpachi has Passive Fear, Paralysis aura which Jigen doesn’t resist and Bankai Kenpachi literally cuts time and space and negates durability so even In a 1v1 he’s winning without any problems.

Toshiro needs four steps and freezes him in a 1v1.

Byakuya has literally thousands of blades to his command and in bankai he will definitely give jiren a run for his money in a 1v1.

Add these three together and their perfect team play will decimate jigen.

@allhellkingdox: otsutsuki can erase their chakra to be undectable, and even if we go with no equalization then he's got nothing to detect.

Like how a bunch of vice captains and captain lvl shinigami couldn't detect the reiastu-less hell hollows.

Kenpachi solos

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uhh scary :-D

Jigen three shots. Weaker characters would stomp this team.

Any of them can solo high Diff together they stomp him

Jigen has no reason to hold back. The Shinigami are helpless once Jigen shrinks their Zanpakto.

The Shinigami should win thins quite easily, Jigen really isn't impressive given the Naruto and Sasuke he fought was't that impressive. Hell Kenny could do what Jigen did not Naruto and Sasuke but worse

I’m happy that the less informed opinions are being drowned out

Toshiro solos

Full knowledge and starts shikai means toshiro gets pin cushioned long before he can activate his adult form.

I already mentioned why byakuya isn't much of a factor.

Kenny's feats are less impressive than toneri's/naruto's

@manimalman: @vengefulparadox: and he can damage them because?

@unhappy-hyena: he's stronger than them (including kenny) and microscopic attacks are semi hax

@manimalman: I can maybe see him being over toshiro and byakuya (tho they ain't slouches) I don't see him being over kenny, maybe if he was in base and eyepatch on but like shikai or bankai? I don't see it

Also the shrinking will be annoying but like how effective do you think it will be?

Any on team 1 solos

@unhappy-hyena: jigen scales way above things like toneri moving and cutting the moon, the chakra cannon powered by killer B and 100 fodders etc.

Kenny is definitely the biggest challenge but jigen should have no problem hurting him.

The rods being smaller than human cells ignores durability to some extent and being able to shrink himself and teleportation make him extremely annoying to hit and they shouldn't be able to sense him.

@manimalman: I do think Jigen can damage them I don’t disagree but he will have to work for it. They have a lot of stuff on their side that I don’t think Jigen can get around like Toshiro possibly flash freezing and dealing with Kenny bull rushing him

Sensing the rods of Jigen might only be an issue when he is in his dimension but once he pops out they shouldn’t have any issue as they can sense spiritually, said sense can even tell them how powerful their opponent is

Scans?

@unhappy-hyena: with knowledge and toshiro starting in shikai flash freezing really isn't an issue, he'd know to stop toshiro before he can use his matured bankai.

Kenny is strong but a really simple and straightforward and it shouldn't be any trouble at all to just shrink and dodge.

He can erase his energy signature and has his black cubes that also disrupt sensory abilities. Even if we don't treat chakra and reiatsu as different we know they can't sense the hell hollows so they shouldn't be able to sense him if he doesn't have reiatsu or a soul made of reishi

@killbilly@owie

In addition, Otsutsuki can travel through outer space, which can imply resistance to very low temperatures close to absolute zero, in other words Toshiro is useless here since physically he is also much inferior to Jigen.

Weaker chars solo stomp this team, Jigen babyshakes while drinking wine

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Jigen stomps due to team starting in Shikai.

@manimalman said:

@kingogkings777 said:

@manimalman said:

@allhellkingdox: otsutsuki can erase their chakra to be undectable, and even if we go with no equalization then he's got nothing to detect.

Like how a bunch of vice captains and captain lvl shinigami couldn't detect the reiastu-less hell hollows.

Scans?

Cool good thing that Reiryoku sensing and chakra sensing are two different things

@kingogkings777: like I said, if we don't wanna equalize then jigen is even harder to detect just like with the reiatsu less hell hollows

Dude's got no reishi, no reiryoku and no reiatsu for them to track if you wanna go that route.