Toriko, Midora and Acacia vs Moro

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#2  Edited By JuzaCloud

So it's just impossible to wait and let the new character get development? What are we suppose to debate here? Whether or not he can absorb them of their energy? All we know is that he's a powerful magician and he can absorb the energy of whole planets and lifeforms on planets.

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I agree with juza but for the sake of it I’ll chime in. I believe Moro should win with him being at least SSG levels given goku’s reaction once he found him and it’s possible that the dai kai was SSG - SSB level due to him giving most of his power away to seal Moro and still being at least SS2 tier in power

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Moro eats them

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As of now, his best feat is planetary, Midora, Acacia and Toriko can solo.

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#6  Edited By TheDeathstar

Moro is a Galactus type character. He had eaten life energies (Genki-Dama) of countless planets in the past Millions of years and is said to be formidable foe even for Goku and Vegeta together. That alone should tell you who wins plus he seems to have cosmic awareness, magic or reality warping abilities. Let the story come out.

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#7  Edited By LoveEveryone

The comets he summoned that the Supreme Kai’s were shocked by should be nothing to high tiers in Toriko verse, who should have the power to blow up solar systems.

But something tells me Mori is going to be as strong as mid tier Tourtament Of Power fighters, considering the Elite of Galatic Patrol couldn’t take him down, and the elite can take on Base Goku + Vegeta.

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Who is Moro?

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The comets he summoned that the Supreme Kai’s were shocked by should be nothing to high tiers in Toriko verse, who should have the power to blow up solar systems.

But something tells me Mori is going to be as strong as mid tier Tourtament Of Power fighters, considering the Elite of Galatic Patrol couldn’t take him down, and the elite can take on Base Goku + Vegeta.

it was stated that moro wiped out 320 planets in a mass extinction of an entire star system. and AOE does not equate potency in dbz.

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Moro can solo

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Moro is a Galactus type character. He had eaten life energies (Genki-Dama) of countless planets in the past Millions of years and is said to be formidable foe even for Goku and Vegeta together. That alone should tell you who wins plus he seems to have cosmic awareness, magic or reality warping abilities. Let the story come out.

Nice joke.

OT: As of now, all of them can solo.

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Moro devour the entire Galaxy he stomps

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#13  Edited By TheDeathstar

@baph: Your joke is better.

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#14  Edited By ChaosReigns

Moro. In the manga, Moro has stated that he is very weak and was still able to go head to head with SSJ God Vegeta.

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Moro. In the manga, Moro has stated that he is very weak and was still able to go head to head with SSJ God Vegeta.

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After this manga #45 it's a stomp in Moro's favour. Not only he has tons of hax but he can even absorb all of his opponent's energy before they even realize and be stronger than they are already not to mention he was already strong enough to hold his own against SSJ God Vegeta and was capable of absorbing Mastered Super Saiyan Blue who was above him in power.

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Moro is kinda OP and badass. He straight up told vegeta he would’ve stomped him back in his prime lol

OT: Moro eats the toriko team

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Acacia still could win alone currently.

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#20  Edited By LoveEveryone

Moro probably since he can beat SSJ God. Moro uses Hax. And this just goes to show Hax can work on DBZ verse. This goes out to all those years people were saying Hax won’t work on DBZ Characters.

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Team still stomps.

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#22  Edited By DemonGod_PABLO

@loveeveryone: nobody said hax can’t work on DB characters. They say DB characters raw power can overcome hax which is true bc they have the feats to back it. Moro stole vegeta power because vegeta had no knowledge and he only thought he was stealing the planets life force

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Moro stomps.

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Moros eat them. Moro can absord all of SS blue vegeta life energy in span of a couple of minutes.

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Team stomps until we get better feats. Tempted to say any of them can solo.

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@demongod_pablo: db characters “hax” is powered by Ki, more ki means you get to over power those with lesser ki, the rest of the fictional universes neither use Ki nor follow this logic. So them overpowering such ki based hax is useless in the wider range of things.

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How fast is this Moro guy? People like Starjun who can track objects that can instantly travelled hundreds of millions of light years away needed multiple time dilation fields to keep up with someone midora took his time to blitz the living day lights out of.

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@ecoblitz: BS. Guess Rukia’s absolute zero bankai would kill vegeta since he only overcame absolute zero temperatures that’s powered by Ki.... what nonsense

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@demongod_pablo: Believe me that guy doesn't know anything don't argue with him.

OT: Like I said Moro laughs on them.

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@thedeathstar: I’m too lazy rn to debate you again, but you’ve been whooped so many times in threads involving db characters it’s not worth doing again, you’ve lowkey become a db punching bag.

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#32  Edited By emperorthanos-  Moderator

@ecoblitz: the power behind it doesn't matter. The effect is what's important and it was resisted. Like his example. Absolute Zero is Absolute Zero

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#33  Edited By emperorthanos-  Moderator

@ecoblitz said:

@emperorthanos-: is any of what I said wrong yes or no?

Yes

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@emperorthanos-: is any of what I said wrong yes or no?

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Moro absorbing energy is a non factor. Moro still gets stomped here either way. What be could do is hinted at, but not confirmed. On panel feats: Moro gets smashed 10/10 times. Each person on the team has hax that far outweighs anything ever seen in db verse, so assuming a damn near featless character can do anything but lose is laughable

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@chromedisaster: you’re talking nonsense. First of all Moro doesn’t absorb energy he absorbs the life force of planets and people around him which isn’t just absorbing energy. 2nd of all DB has better far better hax such has erasing souls, dimensional BFR, Spacial cutting, Time manipulation, matter manipulation, reality warping, intangibility, sealing, time travel, teleportation, telekinesis, telepathy, etc

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#37  Edited By TheDeathstar

@ecoblitz: Says the Beerus is mountain level guy. You know how pathetic you sound right now?

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@demongod_pablo: You obviously haven't read the Toriko Manga because you honestly believe that DB has superior hax to Toriko. Damn near everyone who use Ultimate Routine is a high tier reality warper, atomic manipulation through minority world, cellular regeneration through Enbu, multi-dimensional travel with back channels, probability manipulation via Food Luck, and that's just a Bs list off hand of the plethora hax the Toriko verse has that will literally job Moro. He wont have the time to absorb a damn thing before being erased from existence with hungry tongue. And who says Moro can absorb their energy? All we know is he can absorb ki. Toriko verse runs on metabolic energy. Is that equal here? Not according to the OP.

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How would Moro counter minority world and food luck?

Until I get an answer be loses

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#40 emperorthanos-  Moderator

@ecoblitz said:

@emperorthanos-: is any of what I said wrong yes or no?

Yes

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@thedeathstar: you keep lying about this. I NEVER SAID THAT. Till this day you cannot screenshot where You think I said that. You’re so pathetic you HAVE to lie.

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@emperorthanos-: so tell me how because we know more ki means you can resist abilities from those with lesser ki/power

The hit/goku case was the prime example. He didn’t resist it just because, he resisted it because he had more ki/power than hit.

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@zane240: by overpowering it, itsn't gonna last forever and once it stops he gets oneshot.

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#45 emperorthanos-  Moderator

@ecoblitz: well first of all no all hax in the DB verse is Ki based. Some of it is magic based which is treated as a completely different thing in DB.

Secondly it wasnt stated in the anime that Goku just because he had more power. In terms of power Goku had suprassed hit in his SSB Form. However even so it doesnt change the fact that Goku resisted time manipulation. And can do so regardless of who he is up against.

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Moro one-shot, end.

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#47  Edited By Gaoron

And Moro got yet another Star Wars based ability. He already had Nihilus drain, abused TK like most force sensitives in SW and now he got shaak ti's planet environment manipulation. TP and ki ghost stuff next lol

OT. Current Moro turned out to be out of prime, he can't drain entire planets in split moments like he did in a flashback but he was still capable of draining most of Goku and Vegeta energy along with part of Namek in seconds. He also stated he would stomp SSB/SSBE Vegeta in his prime.

I give team majority against out of prime/current Moro since he needs time that team would not give to drain and they outhax him. Prime Moro should drain them with a hand swipe or pummel them stats wise based on Moro stating he would squash peak Vegeta.

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#48  Edited By Nomar

My problem with DBS has been it relies too much on implied power and doesn't really showcase much in terms of power. The impressive destructive feats are few and far apart (this is what causes people to scream outlier) and are on different ends of the spectrum (most DBZ/DBS fights look like low tier Toriko fights). Whereas Toriko tells you its characters are this strong and then has those characters consistently operate at that strength level. Actually most modern anime make DBZ/DBS fights look very unimpressive. So if your fights go from threatening universal destruction to not even destroying the vicinity you are in, it makes it hard for some people to swallow.

Moro's current (not prime) showings just wouldn't be impressive by EOS Toriko standards. If you showed people who knew nothing about either verse chapters near EoS Toriko and this Moro fight from DBS without a doubt they would all come back saying Toriko verse looks much stronger. I really really hope Toriyama and Toei work on giving us truly impressive feats more than implication going forward.

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@nomar: I find your statement funny because no planets or stars were destroyed in the entirety of toriko which is 300+ chapters yet DB gets dragged for lack of feats? Toriko takes place on a large planet but so was planet vegeta and Frieza destroyed it in his first form. Not to mention mostly all of DB fights take place on Earth which is the main plot point of most fights is for the z fighters to protect earth or they take place in a tournament setting where no killing is allowed so there is no reason for planets to get randomly blown up. Only Gods of destruction and Angels do that

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#50  Edited By Nomar

@demongod_pablo said:

@nomar: I find your statement funny because no planets or stars were destroyed in the entirety of toriko which is 300+ chapters yet DB gets dragged for lack of feats? Toriko takes place on a large planet but so was planet vegeta and Frieza destroyed it in his first form. Not to mention mostly all of DB fights take place on Earth which is the main plot point of most fights is for the z fighters to protect earth or they take place in a tournament setting where no killing is allowed so there is no reason for planets to get randomly blown up. Only Gods of destruction and Angels do that

That lack of destruction of their planet is explained in the manga (it takes a beating though). Entire universes worth of stuff with the backstories we are provided. They just don't destroy the planet they are on, again that's explained. As far as I'm aware we are never given any hard stats on how large Namek and Vegeta are. Neither give the impression of being larger than Earth whereas Toriko planet is much larger.

Even the Zamasu fight was hard to take seriously because these 2 fusions had the chance to showcase some destruction (on a planet that was going to be destroyed anyways) and yet none of it even touched what you can see in a OPM fight. Even after he became the universe Zamasu still had small blasts hitting Earth.