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#1 Posted by jay_z94 (2299 posts) - - Show Bio

Title says it all. Characters should be picked because of pure strategist and tactician abilities, nothing to do with resources, or knowledge of science, technology, magic, etc.

My top 5:

1. Deathstroke

2. Doom

3. Captain america

4. Batman

5. Tony stark

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#2 Posted by GodDamnIronMan (1628 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94:

Is your list according that sequence that you listed? just ask, cuz it makes no sense that DS is at higher place than Doom, and Cap. America is better than Bruce? I meant, Cap is good, but Bruce is better.

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#3 Posted by Dredeuced (6437 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it human only? Because super intelligent aliens also have strategic knowledge. Just list any omniscient and they're obviously a better tactician than any of these guys.

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#4 Edited by XiiX (13584 posts) - - Show Bio

Lex Luthor should be there as well. His specialty is subtle manipulations and playing people as you would pieces on a game board.

Vandal Savage as well. He personally engineered most major historical events that changed the course of Pre-New 52 DC earth(and even publicly assumed the role of many of it's most notorious and reputed leaders,innovators, movers and shakers).

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#5 Posted by jay_z94 (2299 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredeuced said:

Is it human only? Because super intelligent aliens also have strategic knowledge. Just list any omniscient and they're obviously a better tactician than any of these guys.

yeah that's true, i would say no one at or above herald, skyfather, abstract, etc.

@XiiX said:

Lex Luthor should be there as well. His specialty is subtle manipulations and playing people as you would pieces on a game board.

Yes i thought of putting him on instead of tony stark, i wasn't sure who was the better strategist between them.

do you guys have any of your own top 5's you can think off...

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#6 Posted by Supermanwithatan01 (7002 posts) - - Show Bio

Classic Strange, Richards, Doom, Thanos and Batman. Then Pym, Stark, Savage, Loki, Deathstroke or Norman Osborne

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#7 Edited by XiiX (13584 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: In no particular order, mine would probably be:

1. Lucifer Morningstar

2. Loki

3. Dr. Doom

4. Lex Luthor

5. Deathstroke/Vandal Savage/Batman

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#8 Posted by 202122 (1260 posts) - - Show Bio

1.) Deathstroke

2.) Vandal Savage

3.) Lex/Doom

5.) Batman

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#9 Edited by TheTmac (480 posts) - - Show Bio

Not in order:

Deathstroke

Batman

Dr.Doom

Lex Luthor

Richards/Hank Pym

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#10 Posted by jay_z94 (2299 posts) - - Show Bio

@Supermanwithatan01 said:

Classic Strange, Richards, Doom, Thanos and Batman. Then Pym, Stark, Savage, Loki, Deathstroke or Norman Osborne

I can't see Reed or strange being a better tactician than deathstroke, although they do trump him in the knowledge of the mystical arts and science, which i said doesn't count towards tactical and strategic ability. Should black panther be on the list?

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#11 Edited by Mortein (5556 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Lucifer

2. Thanos

3. Doom

4. Deathstroke

5.Constantine

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#12 Posted by NeonGameWave (19275 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Constantine

2. Dr. Doom

3. Thanos

4. Reed Richards

5. Batman

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#13 Posted by Needlebay (2418 posts) - - Show Bio

Constantine

Everyone else.

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#14 Posted by Alyssabird (1419 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain owns everyone

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#15 Posted by BuckshotWasHere (19543 posts) - - Show Bio

I can't believe Black Panther hasn't even been mentioned. And I'm REALLY curious about what Reed has ever done to justify his place on these lists of master planners.

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#16 Posted by laflux (23758 posts) - - Show Bio

@Buckshot said:

I can't believe Black Panther hasn't even been mentioned.

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#17 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (3296 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. John Constantine
  2. Batman
  3. Captain America
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#18 Posted by Strider1992 (18266 posts) - - Show Bio

In no particular order:

  • John Constantine
  • Lucifer Morningstar
  • Dr Doom
  • Black Panther
  • Thanos
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#19 Posted by MonsterStomp (32799 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. Deathstroke
  2. Lex Luthor
  3. Doom
  4. Black Panther
  5. Owlman
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#20 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (7843 posts) - - Show Bio

Doom everyone else is inferior.

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#21 Edited by Hksaru (464 posts) - - Show Bio

Strategy and tactics are quite distinct from one another, even though similar... I don't know every character but I'll give my 2 cents

For top strategists I'd say Doom followed by the likes of Black Panther, Batman, Nick Fury, Thanos...

Tactics is definitely Cap followed by DS and Batman

Tony Stark is a bit iffy. He is an engineer and while he has proven to be competent strategically he's never been much of a natural warrior

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#22 Posted by krauser99 (851 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

Slade

Cyclops

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#23 Posted by Pokeysteve (11258 posts) - - Show Bio

Canary should at least get a mention here. Not a place. Just a mention.

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#24 Posted by overachiver (89 posts) - - Show Bio

Tao beats everyone.

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#25 Posted by beatboks1 (8777 posts) - - Show Bio

In terms of pure tactics It's tough to put specific ranking or narrow a top 5 for me. the only ones I'd consider anywhere near being possibly top 5 would be ( in no soecific order) Vril Dox, Doom, Thanos, Ultra Humanite, T'challa, Batman, Vandal Savage and Per Degaton. Not so sure I'd class Constantine as a strategist, great planner yes but he plans usually to avoid fights

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#26 Posted by MonsterStomp (32799 posts) - - Show Bio

@overachiver: Who's Tao? Sorry for my ignorance.

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#27 Posted by Needlebay (2418 posts) - - Show Bio

He's only been in a few issues, but I feel Doctor Chaos deserves an honorable mention. He took on the JSA single handedly.

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#28 Posted by Needlebay (2418 posts) - - Show Bio

@beatboks1 said:

In terms of pure tactics It's tough to put specific ranking or narrow a top 5 for me. the only ones I'd consider anywhere near being possibly top 5 would be ( in no soecific order) Vril Dox, Doom, Thanos, Ultra Humanite, T'challa, Batman, Vandal Savage and Per Degaton. Not so sure I'd class Constantine as a strategist, great planner yes but he plans usually to avoid fights

What has Per Degaton done? Is he in Kang's league?

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#29 Posted by SirMethos (1526 posts) - - Show Bio

Lucifer Morningstar, Tao, Darkseid.

Not sure who would take the last two spots in a top 5. And those are primarily strategists. People like Deathstroke, Captain America, Black Panther, Cyclops, Spider-Man, etc. are far more often shown as great tacticians, than those like Darkseid, Lucifer, etc.

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#30 Posted by beatboks1 (8777 posts) - - Show Bio

@Needlebay said:

@beatboks1 said:

In terms of pure tactics It's tough to put specific ranking or narrow a top 5 for me. the only ones I'd consider anywhere near being possibly top 5 would be ( in no soecific order) Vril Dox, Doom, Thanos, Ultra Humanite, T'challa, Batman, Vandal Savage and Per Degaton. Not so sure I'd class Constantine as a strategist, great planner yes but he plans usually to avoid fights

What has Per Degaton done? Is he in Kang's league?

He's successfully conquered earth and defeated all her heroes several times. Also sincr you mention him I forgot Kang in my list

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#31 Posted by soaringturkeys (1598 posts) - - Show Bio

Panther

Batman

Lex Luthor

Captain

Doom

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#33 Posted by Pyrogram (45618 posts) - - Show Bio

Panther

Cap

Doom

Bats

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#34 Posted by jay_z94 (2299 posts) - - Show Bio

In my opinion, Reed richards, even though he has the greatest scientific mind doesn't belong on this lift. Also i would have thought Deathstroke would be up there more.....

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#35 Posted by Rick_Grayson (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

No particular order:
 
Batman
Deathstroke
Doom
Lucifer
Darkseid

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#36 Posted by MonsterStomp (32799 posts) - - Show Bio

@jay_z94: Deathstroke is up there with Batman and Black Panther. Lex Luthor is up there with Doom.

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#37 Posted by whydama (1126 posts) - - Show Bio

1.Thanos

2.Lucifer

3.Doom

4.Batman

5.Constantine

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#38 Edited by Alexander505 (2555 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos

Doom

Batman

Iron-Man

Deathstroke

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#39 Posted by bigcimmerian (10312 posts) - - Show Bio

Excluding Abstracts and other Cosmic Entities, Skyfathers, Extradimensiolan entities and Elder Gods

1. John Constantine

2. Doom

3. Batman

4. Deathstroke

5. Captain America

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#40 Posted by LordMasterGod (239 posts) - - Show Bio

1.doom

2.doom

3.doom

4.doom

5.doom

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#41 Posted by spiderpool94 (509 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Dr Doom 2. Loki 3. Batman 4. Cap America 5. Lex Luthor

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#42 Posted by spiderpool94 (509 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki and Doom are about even actually.