Espada: Starrk, Baraggan, and Harribel
Avengers:Thor, Hulk, Ironman, Antman, Wasp + Captain America, Vision, and Quicksilver.
They are in a large city (above it in the espada's case) and All marvel characters are their classic selves (to avoid confusion) Neither team has any prep and the espada dont have immediate access to their fraccion. I know some of the avengers are outclassed but With thor there they have a good chance. Who do you think wins?
Top 3 Espada vs Classic Avengers (Rules)
" @kagetaicho said:Do you know of Baraggan's powers?In his first form he can slow time almost to a standstill while being totally unaffected himself and in his second form he cant be harmed (except by very complicated means) and can instantly rot away anything that comes in contact with him or his respira which was quick enough to catch soifon who surpasses anyone on the avengers team except maybe Pietro in instant speed." @Jx4gChamp said:Simple, he vaporizes them. If Thor wasnt in the fight I may have given it to the Espada but with him in the fight its a curbstomp "" Thor solos "May I ask how? "
" @chaos-soul: Stark doesn't stand much of a chance agaisn't Vision, let alone Thor. Thor solos. "I think you may be forgetting that the only ones who could actually see or sense the espada at all is Hulk and maybe thor. But regardles I think Starrk could beat vision.
Yes. I've read every chapter of Bleach up to date, and I know of his powers, but I doubt his Respira can affect Vision when hes intangible." @Jx4gChamp said:
" @kagetaicho said:Do you know of Baraggan's powers?In his first form he can slow time almost to a standstill while being totally unaffected himself and in his second form he cant be harmed (except by very complicated means) and can instantly rot away anything that comes in contact with him or his respira which was quick enough to catch soifon who surpasses anyone on the avengers team except maybe Pietro in instant speed. "" @Jx4gChamp said:Simple, he vaporizes them. If Thor wasnt in the fight I may have given it to the Espada but with him in the fight its a curbstomp "" Thor solos "May I ask how? "
" @kagetaicho said:even in his intangible form he still has a hint of mass. baraggan effects all matter and even energy so even if he had no substance at all it would more than likely effect him still. I guess to make it fair you're assuming he can see him but dont forget he cant even sense Baraggan at all.Yes. I've read every chapter of Bleach up to date, and I know of his powers, but I doubt his Respira can affect Vision when hes intangible. "" @Jx4gChamp said:
" @kagetaicho said:Do you know of Baraggan's powers?In his first form he can slow time almost to a standstill while being totally unaffected himself and in his second form he cant be harmed (except by very complicated means) and can instantly rot away anything that comes in contact with him or his respira which was quick enough to catch soifon who surpasses anyone on the avengers team except maybe Pietro in instant speed. "" @Jx4gChamp said:Simple, he vaporizes them. If Thor wasnt in the fight I may have given it to the Espada but with him in the fight its a curbstomp "" Thor solos "May I ask how? "
Well if they are fighting, everyone assumes that they can sense them." @Doorknobs said:
even in his intangible form he still has a hint of mass. baraggan effects all matter and even energy so even if he had no substance at all it would more than likely effect him still. I guess to make it fair you're assuming he can see him but dont forget he cant even sense Baraggan at all. "" @kagetaicho said:
Yes. I've read every chapter of Bleach up to date, and I know of his powers, but I doubt his Respira can affect Vision when hes intangible. "" @Jx4gChamp said:
" @kagetaicho said:Do you know of Baraggan's powers?In his first form he can slow time almost to a standstill while being totally unaffected himself and in his second form he cant be harmed (except by very complicated means) and can instantly rot away anything that comes in contact with him or his respira which was quick enough to catch soifon who surpasses anyone on the avengers team except maybe Pietro in instant speed. "" @Jx4gChamp said:Simple, he vaporizes them. If Thor wasnt in the fight I may have given it to the Espada but with him in the fight its a curbstomp "" Thor solos "May I ask how? "
" @kagetaicho said:fair enough i guess. But almost everybody overlooks that ability simply because they dont like it.Well if they are fighting, everyone assumes that they can sense them. "" @Doorknobs said:
even in his intangible form he still has a hint of mass. baraggan effects all matter and even energy so even if he had no substance at all it would more than likely effect him still. I guess to make it fair you're assuming he can see him but dont forget he cant even sense Baraggan at all. "" @kagetaicho said:
Yes. I've read every chapter of Bleach up to date, and I know of his powers, but I doubt his Respira can affect Vision when hes intangible. "" @Jx4gChamp said:
" @kagetaicho said:Do you know of Baraggan's powers?In his first form he can slow time almost to a standstill while being totally unaffected himself and in his second form he cant be harmed (except by very complicated means) and can instantly rot away anything that comes in contact with him or his respira which was quick enough to catch soifon who surpasses anyone on the avengers team except maybe Pietro in instant speed. "" @Jx4gChamp said:Simple, he vaporizes them. If Thor wasnt in the fight I may have given it to the Espada but with him in the fight its a curbstomp "" Thor solos "May I ask how? "
" Thor solos the Bleach cast "Only odinforce thor is that strong. I mean classic thor. he couldn't solo them.technically a hollow can only be killed by spiritual means. No one's still said how anyone cold take out baraggan or the others for that matter.
" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely.
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed." @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
Guys, Barragan survived a Captain's Bankai (which was literally a nuclear bomb) while being sealed in a box to contain the blast and focus it on him...the force was immense.
Anyway, Barragan might be able to solo the Avengers since Thor will fly up to him and start slugging it out, once the Death Breath touches Thor he will begin to decay and fall apart like everything else Barragan uses his breath on.
Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight." @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
" @kagetaicho said:Thor is a brute, a slugger, he will go in for some hand to hand and get decayed into a skeleton. The fight is over at that point...Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight. "" @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
" @Doorknobs said:You seem to think that Thor won't notice his flesh rotting, and that he will still keep charging in. Plus, Thor's healing factor helps a lot here." @kagetaicho said:Thor is a brute, a slugger, he will go in for some hand to hand and get decayed into a skeleton. The fight is over at that point... "Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight. "" @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
" @Klandicar said:He won't have time to notice it, once it touches you the rotting process begins and in 1-2 seconds whatever it touched is bones and it is spreading to the rest of his body. Game over." @Doorknobs said:You seem to think that Thor won't notice his flesh rotting, and that he will still keep charging in. Plus, Thor's healing factor helps a lot here. "" @kagetaicho said:Thor is a brute, a slugger, he will go in for some hand to hand and get decayed into a skeleton. The fight is over at that point... "Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight. "" @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
" @Doorknobs said:His healing factor is going to kick in as soon as that happens. And its much slower than 1-2 seconds or else Soifon and Hachi would have lost more than an arm." @Klandicar said:He won't have time to notice it, once it touches you the rotting process begins and in 1-2 seconds whatever it touched is bones and it is spreading to the rest of his body. Game over. "" @Doorknobs said:You seem to think that Thor won't notice his flesh rotting, and that he will still keep charging in. Plus, Thor's healing factor helps a lot here. "" @kagetaicho said:Thor is a brute, a slugger, he will go in for some hand to hand and get decayed into a skeleton. The fight is over at that point... "Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight. "" @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
" @Klandicar said:
" @Doorknobs said:His healing factor is going to kick in as soon as that happens. And its much slower than 1-2 seconds or else Soifon and Hachi would have lost more than an arm. "" @Klandicar said:He won't have time to notice it, once it touches you the rotting process begins and in 1-2 seconds whatever it touched is bones and it is spreading to the rest of his body. Game over. "" @Doorknobs said:You seem to think that Thor won't notice his flesh rotting, and that he will still keep charging in. Plus, Thor's healing factor helps a lot here. "" @kagetaicho said:Thor is a brute, a slugger, he will go in for some hand to hand and get decayed into a skeleton. The fight is over at that point... "Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight. "" @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
Seems you misunderstood what I said. I said that it takes 1-2 seconds for it to completely decay what it touches which was an overestimate to be generous to Thor. If anything, the closest approximation would be faster than 1-2 seconds since it decayed whatever it touched...instantly...as shown. If Thor goes up close to hit Barragan then Thor gets turned to bones immediately thus your healing factor argument is irrelevant unless you can show scans of Thor as a skeleton regenerating. Simply put a blast of death breath to Thor's face, chest, neck, stomach will easily kill him since he can't remove those body parts without dying and lets face it dude...he isn't continuing the fight as a skeleton.
" @Doorknobs said:Also Baraggan's power is absolute. Even if thor's healing factor helped the respira will never leave until the target is rotted away. Besides thor's healing factor isn't even on wolverines level and there's no way his is fast enough to counter respira." @Klandicar said:
" @Doorknobs said:His healing factor is going to kick in as soon as that happens. And its much slower than 1-2 seconds or else Soifon and Hachi would have lost more than an arm. "" @Klandicar said:He won't have time to notice it, once it touches you the rotting process begins and in 1-2 seconds whatever it touched is bones and it is spreading to the rest of his body. Game over. "" @Doorknobs said:You seem to think that Thor won't notice his flesh rotting, and that he will still keep charging in. Plus, Thor's healing factor helps a lot here. "" @kagetaicho said:Thor is a brute, a slugger, he will go in for some hand to hand and get decayed into a skeleton. The fight is over at that point... "Such as one of Thor's barriers. I don't think you understand, he is being vaporized in a much smaller area of space compared to the Vizard's kido. Considering how Thor used it to beat the Midgard Serpent, who would eat Barragan alive. I don't see Barragan coming out on top in this fight. "" @Doorknobs said:
" @kagetaicho said:If you've read the comics than you know energy blast attacks dont work on Barragan regardless of strength. Only if he's in a confined area that is somehow strong enough to hold him (such as the 4 very powerful barrier spells used against him simultaneously) and at the same time attacked by an extremely powerful attack. Thats the only way to take him out and even then he wasn't killed. "" @Doorknobs said:Explain how it wouldn't work. And simply because he rarely uses it, doesn't mean he can't/won't. "" @kagetaicho: Thor beats Barragan via godblast. "Wouldn't work. Besides even if it did thor uses that extremely rarely. "
Seems you misunderstood what I said. I said that it takes 1-2 seconds for it to completely decay what it touches which was an overestimate to be generous to Thor. If anything, the closest approximation would be faster than 1-2 seconds since it decayed whatever it touched...instantly...as shown. If Thor goes up close to hit Barragan then Thor gets turned to bones immediately thus your healing factor argument is irrelevant unless you can show scans of Thor as a skeleton regenerating. Simply put a blast of death breath to Thor's face, chest, neck, stomach will easily kill him since he can't remove those body parts without dying and lets face it dude...he isn't continuing the fight as a skeleton.
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" @Jx4gChamp said:@SwaggaB0y said:" People are still debating this? Oh its just the animevice tards Thor solos ""
" @Jx4gChamp said:Funny the last 2 comments on here are from you 2. If you want the debating to stop then stop posting yourselves." People are still debating this? Oh its just the animevice tards Thor solos ""
How long do you propose it took Soifon to turn her head and look at her hand? ...Because by that time it was already rotted to the bone. Let's get back to your claim then, show me scans of Thor's healing factor can combat that kind of rotting power (down to the bone in a single panel)." @Klandicar: Pages don't really measure a sense of time. "
Really dude, what are you claiming? The panel shows the decay is near instant, your not gonna discount it by saying "pages dont measure a sense of time" when you can clearly get a sense of how long something took by how it is drawn. It doesn't show the hand's flesh melting off slowly then the tissues, it just shows breath hit the hand and strip it down to the bone.
Avenger vs espada it will be 1 hack of a fight
Besides espada wins seens barragan rots and ages everything away quickly less then 1 second and slow time and he can handle thor and hulk he just rots thor lighting away and for hulk will just attack and will get near to barragan and he will ages to dust. Starrk can handle vision and ironman
And for halibe she just can handle the rest of the avenger. Or what's your guys opinion. because I think that the espada wins.
Avengers win. Thor could solo.
I believe Barrigan's power would actually kill Thor, as Asgardians do age and Thor is much slower than Soi Fon (who was caught by it). It's basically a quick draw -- Does Thor smite Barrigan before the other two, and before Barrigan rots him? Toss up to me. Since the Avengers have more fodder for Barrigan to go for, Thor will probably Godblast and kill him as soon as he sees wasp or captain get rotted into nothingness. 7/10 for the Avengers if Thor plays it serious.
I believe Barrigan's power would actually kill Thor, as Asgardians do age and Thor is much slower than Soi Fon (who was caught by it). It's basically a quick draw -- Does Thor smite Barrigan before the other two, and before Barrigan rots him? Toss up to me. Since the Avengers have more fodder for Barrigan to go for, Thor will probably Godblast and kill him as soon as he sees wasp or captain get rotted into nothingness. 7/10 for the Avengers if Thor plays it serious.
Agreed.
The Espada are far greater in terms of power than the Avenger. They absolutely stomp Thor first then cruelly punish the rest.
Avenger vs espada it will be 1 hack of a fight
Besides espada wins seens barragan rots and ages everything away quickly less then 1 second and slow time and he can handle thor and hulk he just rots thor lighting away and for hulk will just attack and will get near to barragan and he will ages to dust. Starrk can handle vision and ironman
And for halibe she just can handle the rest of the avenger. Or what's your guys opinion. because I think that the espada wins.
Isn't barragan power similar to that GR villain Decay,you know the who also appeared at the second GR movie? Because Thor was completely immune to it. And this guy's power was of supernatural origin as well,probably higher than barragan because it came from Satan himself.
I believe Barrigan's power would actually kill Thor, as Asgardians do age and Thor is much slower than Soi Fon (who was caught by it). It's basically a quick draw -- Does Thor smite Barrigan before the other two, and before Barrigan rots him? Toss up to me. Since the Avengers have more fodder for Barrigan to go for, Thor will probably Godblast and kill him as soon as he sees wasp or captain get rotted into nothingness. 7/10 for the Avengers if Thor plays it serious.
Barragan's power is rapidly aging things, thus being able to slow down time dramatically around him as well. Therefor, only immortal beings can touch him and not be effected. Remember, energy attacks age as well.
The Espada are far greater in terms of power than the Avenger. They absolutely stomp Thor first then cruelly punish the rest.
You all realize Thor's looked the exact same for the last thousand years, right? As in the aging process Thor experiences is at a snails pace. Odin himself is millions if not billions of years old. His mom kicked started creation hasn't aged at all. By the time Thor actually does become an old man, it wasn't till after "many millennia" on top of 900 years of Asgard being under siege by Gorr's berserkers. Even the gods killed by Gorr look like this:
And Thor's guesstimate is that these gods have only been dead for a couple hundred years. Even ignoring the unique status of divine beings in Marvel being able to dance around people's ability to manipulate time (As in X-Man stepping outside of it and Ares strolling right in to fight him) or Thor's physical body transcending dimensional boundaries - how is Barragan going to age a God that arguably is going to continue existing thousands of life-times of any soul reaper to date? And that's without eating or drinking to boot.
It's not how slow he ages, it's the fact that he can age which means Barragan can decay him quick smart.
@jamesisaacs said:
It's not how slow he ages, it's the fact that he can age which means Barragan can decay him quick smart.
Explain to me how his powers work then and why actual immortals are going to die to it. Up there is a number of gods that have been dead for centuries and the decay isn't quite too impressive.
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