Tony Stark (Batman) vs Bruce Wayne (Iron Man)

The Story:

One day, the One-Above-All and the Pressence heard thousands of voices crying out in fervor of challenge. It was not the first time they had heard the cries but the fervor was never less intense. "Iron Man is nothing but the Batman of Marvel," one voice jeered while another cried "Iron Man is smarter than Bruce and he has more style." But the voices were never quelled. The paralels of Stark and Wayne could never be escaped. Both were inventors, geniuses, crime-fighters, rich, and both were human at their cores in a world with beings the far outclassed their own mortal abilities and made up for that discrepancy with technology they crafted and designed. Long ago, these great beings along with other powers that be had crafted a place where such wars could be held in a universe where they would be free to wage untetherd battle without jeopardizing their own universes. They called this realm "The Vine" but this battle had happend before in many different ways. Who was a better fighter? Who had better tech? Who was a better strategist? The battles always went back and fourth and a solid winner was never chosen. But it all came back to one question. Were they really, at their cores, alternate versions of the same person? And could one of them ever be superior? Unable to decide one a challenge that would finally answer these questions they sought the aid of one of the Viners, the cosmic denizens of the Vine who lend their powers to the champions to determine the outcomes of each epic conflict. That entity was DangerousLoki.

The Scenario:

Bruce Wayne has been taken from Wayne Manor and placed in Stark Tower, and Tony Stark has been placed in Wayne Manor. Neither of them bring anything with them beyond the clothes on their back. At that moment they are suffering from a serious case of the USS Enterprise syndrome, a syndrome symptomatic of being the only starship in the quadrant available to do anything or in this case hero, when their Rogue's galleries both attack respectively. Both are forced to take on each others mantle to combat the threat. Bruce Wayne becoming Iron Man and Tony Stark becoming Batman.

The Challenge:

Stark and Wayne will both have each others respective standard gear, Bruce will have access to general use stark Armor before the Extremis unit. Stark will have the Batcave, utility belt, and other standard batman equipment but no specialty tech or armors. For the sake of this challenge boths equipment will register the other as an identified user and they don't have to hack the belt/armor. However neither knows each others equipment and both are thrust into combat before the can be acclimated to the situation. They will each face 7 members of the others Rogue gallery and the will be determined by who would defeat the others rogue gallery or at least the one who would stack up the most wins.

The Rogues:

Batman (Stark) will be facing:

Round 1: Mr. Freeze

Round 2: Firefly

Round 3: Talia Al Ghul

Round 4: Ra's Al Ghul

Round 5: Bane

Round 6: Deathstroke

Round 7: Joker

Iron Man (Wayne) will be facing:

Round 1: Blizzard

Round 2: Firebrand

Round 3: Madam Masque

Round 4: Count Nefaria

Round 5: Firepower

Round 6: Crimson Dynamo

Round 7: The Mandarin

The Rules:

Battle-field removal is off. Win by knockout or submission(through seduction or other means) only. Standard morals apply to both characters. Neither Bruce or Stark has access to any technology that their respective counter does not possess and neither have access to more then their general use equipment. All rogues should be considered current versions where applicable when not applicable (death of character, massive power upgrade) the character should be considered at the most current version previous this.

Both have to compensate not only with beating their villains (I tried to select villains who had a paralel in both worlds) but with operating equipment and technology they're not familiar with that might inadvertently effect what they can do. Keep that in mind when determining who will win each round.

Secondary Scenario: Add an hour before the attacks of the gallery for both to familiarize themselves with each others equipment but they still don't know about the attack and cannot seek any aid only learn about the gear they'll have available. Will this effect the outcome of the matches?

Let the battle begin.

Stark Gets killed in the first round

Wayne clears.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

Stark Gets killed in the first round

Wayne clears.

Both lose. Without knowing what each suit can do they have no chance. 
Even with an hour they both still lose. 

Tony Stark as Batman LOL! Sorry, I just couldnt see Tony Stark in a Batman suit...

Anyway, I only see Tony getting to round 4. He is very smart and a quick learner. Then when he is to Ra, he will probably face exhaustion and Ra is a tough guy. He'll lose quickly.

Bruce wins only at about Round 6.

Tony loses, he's not physically fit up to be Batman

Bruce wins, he's a quick learner

I like this battle btw, very original.

Bruce clears it he's created Iron Man level armor before though he rarely uses it plus Stark tech isn't too much above his own tech while. Stark may be in shape he isn't near Bruce's level so the farthest he gets is Talia

No one thinks Tony could give it a solid go as Batman but everyone (except one) thinks Bruce could take it? I was expecting more even results. I'll admit that I don't disagree but I think Stark stands a better chance then some people are giving him. While he doesn't have the combat training that Batman does, he does have some training. I'm not sure what his stats are physically after his stint as superhuman and return from it (from what I've been able to glean) but I've always been under the impression he keeps himself pretty fit so I'm going to say athletic/peak human (correct me if I'm wrong, I'll admit I'm not up on the newer stuff) and he is a genius, most of Wayne's tech is probably lower calibers of things he's either seen or invented already and he's shown an ability to glean a devices abilities pretty quickly from what I remember with very little showing just by looking at the devices. I've got to say that I see him clearing the first two stages and possibly overcoming Talia by seduction or charm. Ra's is a bit harder to pin down but I think he could possibly over come him. But I don't see him getting past Bane, Deathstroke but I think he could take Joker though (I don't know if it was clear but I meant each Round would be one on one, not tournament style so he'd fight each of the seven same with Bruce.)

Speaking of Bruce, I don't know if he could necessarily be able to pilot the armor to the same degree that Tony could. Also I don't know if Bruce could take Count Nefaria and Crimson Dynamo seems to have an armor at least on par if not as good as Iron Man's and he'll have the experience and knowledge Bruce doesn't and Mandarin might be a beast since Bruce won't know what he's going against there. And from what I've seen the Iron Man armor isn't designed for straight combat (h2h) which is Bruce's specialty. So he might not be able to take this as easily as it might first appear. Just my thoughts.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

Stark Gets killed in the first round

Wayne clears.

The Vine needs more threads likes this, with Original Post's like this.

I think a lot of people are writing Stark off too soon, I'm pretty sure, given enough time, he can at least get a basic idea of how to use Wayne's tech, granted he's not the physical specimen Bruce is, but Bruce has armor of his own in the cave to make up for it 
 
Namely: 
 

@The Stegman said:

I think a lot of people are writing Stark off too soon, I'm pretty sure, given enough time, he can at least get a basic idea of how to use Wayne's tech, granted he's not the physical specimen Bruce is, but Bruce has armor of his own in the cave to make up for it

Namely:

He said standard gear.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

Stark Gets killed in the first round

Wayne clears.

Lol.

They both can reserve each other's gear to fit their specific preferences. Stark can probably make something interesting out of the Wayne tech, and apply it to the bat suit. Same goes for Bruce. However, they both will need to learn what it is like to be in each other's shoes. For example, Stark often relies on the sensors(whether in his suit, or the ones he integrated in his own body) to "feel" the world around him. He'll need to learn to listen to his own senses the way Bruce does in order to defeat some of his rouges. I guess Bruce would need to apply the same concept to the Iron Man suit. It takes a lot of intelligence, and constant observation, to be able to comprehend this tech, and to be able to use it creatively in battle.

That's what I think will make the difference in the outcome.

tldr

@Tony_Shark: That's the major difference I see as well. Tony is more used to going head to head then Batman who relies on stealth and planning. I think Stark will have a little easier time acclimating himself to the stealth avenue and planning but he also doesn't have the physical training to capitalize it in the same way. Bruce relies heavily on his martial training and I don't know how much he'll be able to capitalize on that with the Iron Man armor. So do you have an opinion on the outcome?

@HBKTimHBK said:

Tony loses, he's not physically fit up to be Batman

Bruce wins, he's a quick learner

I like this battle btw, very original.

batman

I love Stark but he would not know hot to fight in a ordinary suit,he knows some moves but it's not a match for Bruce and sadly Wayne wins.

Doesn't matter Bruce can't power the suit anyways. Not without the piece that's in the middle of tony's chest.

@HBKTimHBK said:

Tony loses, he's not physically fit up to be Batman

Bruce wins, he's a quick learner

I like this battle btw, very original.

this.

@DangerousLoki: They are both very stubborn at times, so it might take them a good ass kicking (not a lose) by the rogues to make them learn how to get into the other's shoes. I think Tony is more than smart enough to adjust the Batsuit in ways that the suit can make up for his lack of physical training. Also, Tony is incredibly crafty and a great strategist, so this will also help. The same goes for Batman, but he will need more time studying the Iron Man technology thoroughly in order to truly be able to pilot the suit the way Tony does, or at least close to him.

I think that the both can win after getting defeated at least twice.

Tony will not lose to Freeze. Trust me, he is smart enough to hack that suit with re-engineered Wayne tech. Ra Al Goul is a very tough opponent, so Tony will need to get VERY creative in order to defeat him. He has a good chance of losing to Deathstroke too. However, the advantage Tony has over Batman is that he has killed multiple times. If he feels like there is no other way out, then he will go for the kill. Something Batman's rogues won't expect.

As for Batman, he will have trouble with 5, 6, and specially 7. Also, all the Iron Man rogues have received MAJOR upgrades recently. So that makes it very tough on him.

@Tony_Shark: That's grand. I can totally get behind that. Thanks for offering your opinion.

i think there both going to have a hard time without any kind of prep. stark tends to rely on alot of what his suit can do more than what he can do. bruce is mostly a up close and personal type which i think would be kind hard to use martial arts in the iron man suit. and then again i dont see bruce using the suit unless he has to considering he has suits and hardly uses them anyway.

@HBKTimHBK said:

Tony loses, he's not physically fit up to be Batman

Bruce wins, he's a quick learner

I like this battle btw, very original.

This ^^

First off, OP u have done such a great job with this. I really like ur set up.

Second. Bruce would be capable of figuring out Ironmans suit.. and using it to a great level. i say bruce would make it to Round 6 as well.

Third. U have to be as fit as the weakiest incarnation of robin to go around town fighting bad guys (it requires more than just tech.) Stark isnt even at that level, so he gets frozen in the first round (doesnt have the stats to dodge those cold blasts.)

BRUCE wins. then redesigns the ironman suit to bcome Batsuit 2012 (sprays it black, gets a cap, a cowl, yea on his way to bcome Bat 1M)

Nice topic. I can see Tony making something out of whatever tech he finds and ending up with some type of armour. He sure as hell is not going to go h2h to try to take down those guys. He is going to build some weapons and armour and then go for it. I can defenetly see Tony clearing that list after he builds what he needs. Same for Batman. He is going to take those suits, turn off the guns (yeah lol) and then add batarangs and crep and not bullets :P Still he defenetly can do it. Imagine Ironman with Batman's level of MA skill.

tony gets stomped in round 1, he relys too much on technology, and he cant dodge the freeze beams. bruce would make a better ironman, he clears it

spite

Ughh people are such Batman fanboys, its sickening. I agree with @DangerousLoki and @Tony_Shark. I think Tony can beat everyone in his line up, but he'll have a lot of trouble from Deathstroke.

Tony has trained h2h with the likes of Captain America, Hawkeye and Widow. And being that the Joker, Bane and many other of Batman's foes aren't necessarily MA arts specialists, Taking them down and solving their riddles shouldn't be too much of a problem for an extremely quick problem solver like Stark. And if Tony had the Extremis virus (without him using the undersheath or the armor stored within his bones) he would be much stronger, faster and deadlier than Bane or Deathstroke. But lets not add that factor. Also Tony has proven himself to be a brilliant strategist, and tactician on many occasions. Being the leader of the Avengers "Earths Mightiest Heroes" on multiple story arcs would call for such talents.

Now with Bruce Wayne. I've had so much hate for batman fanboys because they literally believe he can do anything and beat anybody. The best way to describe Batman is that he is an amazing detective/martial artists/ acrobat. He is definitely not an inventor and he definitely does not possess the intellect that Tony Stark has. Alot of people tend to forget about Lucius Fox, Bruce Wayne's business manager. While Bruce is too busy running around in tights, Lucius is in the office running the business that supplies Batman with equipment he needs, as well as financing his operations. Also Bruce is incredibly smart but I highly doubt he has the brain power to pilot the Iron Man Armor. It is described that attempting to pilot the the armor is equivalent to trying to operate 6 stealth bombers simultaneously. And I highly doubt Wayne ever specialized in aviation engineering like Tony or Rhodey. Maybe his mechanized batsuits shed some experience, but anyone can agree that the Iron Man armor is a few tiers above anything Bruce has ever acquired from Fox.

Making it passed round one would be a surprise for Bruce, given to the fact that he'll more than likely be stumbling and bumbling around in the Iron Man Armor.

Making it passed Deathstroke would be quite a feat for Stark. And taking it to the final round and taking out the Joker, shouldn't be too much of a problem.

@FuZySLiPeRz: Thank you for agreeing. You bring some important points too.

Stark doesn't have the physical prowess to be batman but batman has the intellect to operate the iron man suit so Batman kicks everyone's ass.

@FuZySLiPeRz said:

Ughh people are such Batman fanboys, its sickening. I agree with @DangerousLoki and @Tony_Shark. I think Tony can beat everyone in his line up, but he'll have a lot of trouble from Deathstroke.

Tony has trained h2h with the likes of Captain America, Hawkeye and Widow. And being that the Joker, Bane and many other of Batman's foes aren't necessarily MA arts specialists, Taking them down and solving their riddles shouldn't be too much of a problem for an extremely quick problem solver like Stark. And if Tony had the Extremis virus (without him using the undersheath or the armor stored within his bones) he would be much stronger, faster and deadlier than Bane or Deathstroke. But lets not add that factor. Also Tony has proven himself to be a brilliant strategist, and tactician on many occasions. Being the leader of the Avengers "Earths Mightiest Heroes" on multiple story arcs would call for such talents.

Now with Bruce Wayne. I've had so much hate for batman fanboys because they literally believe he can do anything and beat anybody. The best way to describe Batman is that he is an amazing detective/martial artists/ acrobat. He is definitely not an inventor and he definitely does not possess the intellect that Tony Stark has. Alot of people tend to forget about Lucius Fox, Bruce Wayne's business manager. While Bruce is too busy running around in tights, Lucius is in the office running the business that supplies Batman with equipment he needs, as well as financing his operations. Also Bruce is incredibly smart but I highly doubt he has the brain power to pilot the Iron Man Armor. It is described that attempting to pilot the the armor is equivalent to trying to operate 6 stealth bombers simultaneously. And I highly doubt Wayne ever specialized in aviation engineering like Tony or Rhodey. Maybe his mechanized batsuits shed some experience, but anyone can agree that the Iron Man armor is a few tiers above anything Bruce has ever acquired from Fox.

Making it passed round one would be a surprise for Bruce, given to the fact that he'll more than likely be stumbling and bumbling around in the Iron Man Armor.

Making it passed Deathstroke would be quite a feat for Stark. And taking it to the final round and taking out the Joker, shouldn't be too much of a problem.

Wat?? Batman is as an incredibly smart man, and hes made armors too, created(invented) some insane gadgets and hes the one created his bat computer. if anything hes on par with stark in the brains. and so wat if tony has sum fighting skill, caps style works for him bc hes a super solider.. widow knows all kinds of MA and hawkeye is an archer his fighting prowiess is inferior to bats. and stark cant make any new tech he has to use standard equipment. theres no way hed beat MR. Freeze..

@FMStyyx: While it is true that Batman is smart he's never been shown to be on the same calibre of Tony. I believe @FuZySLiPeRz: was saying that most people forget that many of Bruce Wayne's devices are built by Luscious Fox (This is and isn't true, Fox takes much more of a role in the movies but he does have a fair bit of play in the comics) But most of the Designs are Bruces who just uses Waynetech resources. But Batman has created various chemical compounds to counteract the Joker's toxin, fear gas, and battle people like Clayface. He's also modified and invented various devices and he's built an armor to give him the strength to match Bane and a newer armor as well. I'd put Bruce at Peter's level of intellect. I think he'd be able to function the armor but not to it's full capabilities. Do you have an opinion?

@FMStyyx: He can just hack Mr. Freeze's suit, and without even wearing a Batsuit. He can literally THINK about it, and it's done. There is only a handful of people who have been able to hack Stark's mind(suit) that I remember: Noh-Varr, and the Skrulls (with the virus).

Couldn't Tony just wear the Insider Suit? I bet its hanging in the cave somewhere.

Tony Stark builds the "win" button in DC and wins. Bruce finds the "win" button Stark already made in Marvel and wins.

@Erik: Is that like the Easy button at Staples? Cause that thing "never" works. No matter how hard I press. I don't think it's connected to anything. Like those buttons at crosswalks (Ten points if you get the refrence)

@DangerousLoki said:

@Erik: Is that like the Easy button at Staples? Cause that thing "never" works. No matter how hard I press. I don't think it's connected to anything. Like those buttons at crosswalks (Ten points if you get the refrence)

That is because they sell the fakes to the general populace. Tony has the real deal.

Tony stops at 4. Bruce stops at 6.

Tony dies at 1

Bruce might clear

@Erik: Curses! Foiled again.

i see stark getting to deathstroke and then the shit hits the fan and deathstroke wins

Batman will figure out how to use the Iron man armour and become nearly invincible. Tony will get the hang of the Bat-suit, but without the acrobatic/fighting skill of Bruce he won't be a serious threat. Bruce will go far (maybe clear it) Tony will not get past 4.

QFT!!!!

Tony Stark will be defeated in round 1 due to his inexperience in hand to hand fighting and I think that Wayne will win since he will be able to figure out how to use iron man suits . How hard can using iron man suits be?? Rhodes was able to use it , why not wayne?

If Stark gets just the regular Batsuit, he doesn't even attempt to put on the Batsuit.... he forfeits, Batman has a shot at clearing, but I think he stops at the Mandarin.