Title For The Strongest: EoS Battler Ushiromiya Vs. Creator Beatrice Ushiromiya (When They Cry)

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Poll Title For The Strongest: EoS Battler Ushiromiya Vs. Creator Beatrice Ushiromiya (When They Cry) (39 votes)

Battler wins. 38%
Beatrice wins. 23%
Stalemate. 10%
I know nothing of Umineko and only clicked because it's trendy in multiversal debates. 18%
See results. 10%

Title For The Strongest In The Ushiromiya Family.

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Battler goes back in time to face Beatrice when she was temporarily in her Creator state while creating her magic system. Who wins?

Rules:

  • No VS Battles logic.
  • Both are serious.
  • If Beatrice wins, she enslaves her incompetent husband for 100 years.
  • If Battler wins, he forces his psycho wife to beat up and troll Bernkastel for 100 years.

Location: Golden Land

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#1  Edited By zgtfreak

Winner gets the title of strongest in all of When They Cry.

Almost forgot: @ovy7

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Well, from that what I've heard, Battler isn't so deep in hax like Beatrice, who can literally just pull hax out made up by her, but at the same time, Battler has endless nine, which can deny everything she does.

How this fight would go for me:

''Beatrice makes a hax to kill Battler''

''Battler says no''

And this would go on for ever. There isn't really a winner here for me. Well, from that what I know from both characters.

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#3  Edited By Wot_m8

Laughs in Featherine.

Ok, jokes aside, they are both at a point where a battle can never be potentially resolved, or it can be solved an infinite different possible outcomes. Many arguments can be made for either of them or no argument can be really made. Depends on who is debating and what the circumstances are.

For me, I personally lean towards Battler due to his Endless hax. Golden is useless since both have access to it IIRC.

But I am voting stalemate coz I really do not know who would win. I'll wait to see if anyone else can make a solid argument, I cannot.

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@wot_m8: Damn, this thread is getting more attention than I thought. Thanks for your input.

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@zgtfreak said:

@wot_m8: Damn, this thread is getting more attention than I thought. Thanks for your input.

Ye, Umineko characters are certainly not mainstream so gathering attention would be hard especially if it is an in-verse battle. Regardless, let's see if anyone can make a good argument for either of these two.

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@wot_m8 said:

Laughs in Featherine.

Ok, jokes aside, they are both at a point where a battle can never be potentially resolved, or it can be solved an infinite different possible outcomes. Many arguments can be made for either of them or no argument can be really made. Depends on who is debating and what the circumstances are.

For me, I personally lean towards Battler due to his Endless hax. Golden is useless since both have access to it IIRC.

But I am voting stalemate coz I really do not know who would win. I'll wait to see if anyone else can make a solid argument, I cannot.

I think you brought it on the point better than me. At some level of stupidy, you can't decide who the winner is.

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@wot_m8 said:

Laughs in Featherine.

Ok, jokes aside, they are both at a point where a battle can never be potentially resolved, or it can be solved an infinite different possible outcomes. Many arguments can be made for either of them or no argument can be really made. Depends on who is debating and what the circumstances are.

For me, I personally lean towards Battler due to his Endless hax. Golden is useless since both have access to it IIRC.

But I am voting stalemate coz I really do not know who would win. I'll wait to see if anyone else can make a solid argument, I cannot.

I think you brought it on the point better than me. At some level of stupidy, you can't decide who the winner is.

You really cannot. With characters at a level as high as this, it always boils down to bias. You can try and be as objective as you can be, but you cannot really resolve a battle between two beings of higher existence like this without your own personal bias. Any argument you can make for one, two can be made for the other.

So, take your pick.

P.S. I changed my mind, Beatrice wins, she is hotter.

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@wot_m8: P.S. I changed my mind, Beatrice wins, she is hotter.

Hot-ter? So Battler is hot, just not as hot? Hence why you specifically said hotter? ExPOSeD! I have found out your real identity!

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@zgtfreak said:

@wot_m8: P.S. I changed my mind, Beatrice wins, she is hotter.

Hot-ter? So Battler is hot, just not as hot? Hence why you specifically said hotter? ExPOSeD! I have found out your real identity!

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I am gay too, you know? I find Beatrice hotter too, but Battler is hot too and everyone in Umineko is hot too, but not hotter than Battler.

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@zgtfreak said:

@wot_m8: P.S. I changed my mind, Beatrice wins, she is hotter.

Hot-ter? So Battler is hot, just not as hot? Hence why you specifically said hotter? ExPOSeD! I have found out your real identity!

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Battler could easily win with the Golden Truth (or Red Truth, I don't think it matters that much) as he knows the truth and how to kill Beato.

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At least you were thoughtful and put the 4th option.

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@lsoon23 said:

At least you were thoughtful and put the 4th option.

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@ovy7 said:

Battler could easily win with the Golden Truth (or Red Truth, I don't think it matters that much) as he knows the truth and how to kill Beato.

Interesting. However I'm not sure what you mean exactly. The truth on how to kill her?

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@zgtfreak said:
@ovy7 said:

Battler could easily win with the Golden Truth (or Red Truth, I don't think it matters that much) as he knows the truth and how to kill Beato.

Interesting. However I'm not sure what you mean exactly. The truth on how to kill her?

Remember what Beato did to herself in Ep3 and what Battler did at the end of Ep4? That, but with the actual killing blow being delivered.

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@ovy7: Oh, wait a minute... You mean by destroying her golden heart? Yeah... that could indeed work.

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so battler is the top dog not featherine ? interesting

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What exactly does Golden Truth and Endless Nine do? In every battle involving Battler, they are always brought up as automatic wins for him.

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@GrandTOAA:

Golden Truth:What He says is the truth

Endless 9:You do something to battler,and he says no,then it does not happen

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@grandtoaa: Golden Truth: Whatever Battler says is the truth. Simple as that.

Endless: Lol nope. It's basically Dispel Bound on Super Cosmic Steroids.

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Beatrice should win. GM battler wont do anything aganist Beato in that state.

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#23  Edited By HukO

Creator beatro > eos battler > normal beatro

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I pick Beatrice because I’m a simp for those multiversal ladies

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@zgtfreak said:

@wot_m8: Damn, this thread is getting more attention than I thought. Thanks for your input.

I can't believe you actually believe beatrice is beyond featherine, smh

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Creator destroys battler.