Time Lords Vs Q Continuum Vs The Ones Vs The Ori

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Combatants are at their peak form. Are able to use any and all abilities and technology of their race. Fight takes place in a new Multiverse. All combatants are blood lusted.

Doctor Who's Time Lords/ Ancients of Gallifrey:

Powers

Electro Direction: Electro-direction was a faculty shown by Rassilon at the dawn of the Time Lord civilisation. A barehanded Rassilon was able to burst out bolts of power arc from his fingertips. He used it to sever the belt (with his directional control for time travel) of the saboteur Fenris the Hellbringer.

Regeneration: Regeneration was the process by which Time Lords and others renewed themselves, causing a complete physical and often psychological change. Time Lords have 12 regenerations (although it's been revealed that they can grant more), which they use to survive mortal wounds, sickness, etc.

Telepathic Contact: Telepathic contact was a Time Lord ability to form a telepathic link between multiple minds for high-speed conversations and decision-making.

Telepathy: Telepathy was the psychic ability to sense and manipulate thought, which often manifested as mind-to-mind communication. The term could also be used to describe and was often linked to mind-control and certain types of hypnosis.

Manipulation: The Time Lords had the capability to control and use the power of stars. The Tenth Doctor went so far as to claim that the Time Lords "invented" black holes.Using the Hand of Omega, the Time Lords could speed up the development of stars. One such star had been exploded but its development into a black hole had been frozen, trapped in a permanent state of decay and was kept either under the Panopticon as the Eye of Harmony to power the civilisation of the Time Lords, or in TARDISes to use as their power source.

Weapons

De-Mat Gun: When its trigger was pulled, the De-mat gun would fire a beam that erased whatever it hit from reality itself.

The Moment: The Moment was the most powerful and most dangerous weapon in all of creation, described as the Galaxy Eater. Additionally, the Moment was able to create tears in the fabric of creation called time fissures that would allow people and objects to pass from one time period to another, possessing a trans-dimensional awareness of the past and future. It also had a sentient interface with telepathic abilities, enabling it to read the thoughts and memories of those who intended to use it.

Validium: Created as the ultimate defence for Gallifrey by Rassilon and Omega and had great destructive potential. It was living metal that could think for itself and was capable of speech as well. When destroyed, it could reform itself.

Tardis: The mode of Transport for Time-Lords. They allow them to Travel through Time and Space, and are dimensions contained in a smaller space. Can take whatever form they want and are powered by a dying star.

The Ones

Powers

The Ones were a family of exceptionally powerful Force wielders who lived on the planetMortis during the Clone Wars. Led by the Father, the Son and Daughter were embodiments of the dark and light sides of the Force, respectively. The Son and the Daughter were worshiped as the Twin Deities or simply as the spirits in the Nightsisters' religion.

Force: The Ones are the most powerful force users, being actual representations of the Force. The Daughter is The Light, The Son is the Dark, and The Father, The Balance, and The Mother, who became the Abeloth.They manipulate the Force like no other and are incredibly powerful.

Q Continuum

Powers:

Manipulation: The Q were a seemingly omnipotent and immortal species who inhabited the Q Continuum, possessing the ability of instantaneous matter-energy transformation and teleportation, as well as the ability of time travel. The Q had control over space, time, matter, and energy.

Immortal: The Q's are immortal.

Time Travel: It's known that they can in fact time travel, as well as teleport.

Matter Control: They can teleport and transform matter. Their apparent abilities included moving entire asteroid belts and stars, creating alternate timelines, and affecting universal states of nature such as the gravitational constant. In fact, the only time a Q was seen as unable to do something was during a period where their powers are reduced or revoked by the Continuum.

Ori

Powers

The Ori are known to be beings of Godlike power (though not gods).

Weapons

Technology: Ori technology ranges from the biological to the mechanical, and most, if not all, of their technology is created and used for the purpose of gathering worshipers in order to increase their own power by demonstrating godlike power. Any discovered technology created prior to their Ascension is destroyed with no exceptions, lest their Human worshipers doubt their validity as gods. Since they and the Ancients were one race, it is safe to say their technology would be identical to the Ancients left behind in the Milky Way galaxy.

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Time Lords.

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Q Continuum

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hmnmm

are the Timelords and "The Ones" even a factor in this battle?

- "The Ones" - I´ve watched the episodes but what they showed there was not impressive.

- Timelords - They are really powerful but what can they actually do against e.g. a Q without massive prep?

- Ori - best feat i recall was creating a planet.

by feats ill go with the Q

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Time Lords>Daleks who can build Multiversal bombs.Dont know about Ori but Q are outmatched.

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Lmao the Q wins, Q traps them all in a Robin Hood senerio

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@ratava: Time Lords both T.V., Comics, and Audio books have pretty impressive feats.

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#8  Edited By Ratava

@adman123 said:

@ratava: Time Lords both T.V., Comics, and Audio books have pretty impressive feats.

i know that they are powerful, but can you show some feats of what they could do against a Q? without prior knowledge or prep? i only watched some of the old episodes and the series from 2005 on till now, so i dont know about comics/audio books feats

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@ratava: List of more Time Lord powers

0—Detect Psionics, Inkling, Know Direction, Trinket, Burst, Catfall, Daze, Distract

1st—Combat Precognition, Destiny Dissonance, Identify, Know Location, Object Reading, Minor Creation, Matter Agitation, Biofeedback, Lesser Body Adjustment, Dissipating Touch, Conceal Thoughts

2nd—Augury, Combat Prescience, Recall Pain, Sensitivity to Psychic Impressions, Sudden Minor Creation, Body Adjustment, Body Equilibrium, Painful Touch, Sustenance, Knock, Psionic Lock, Sense Psychoportation

3rd—Danger Sense, Nondetection, Remote Viewing, Negate Psionics, Displacement, Improved Biofeedback, Rejuvenation, Dimension Slide, Time Hop, Fate Link

4th—Detect Remote Viewing, Divination, Fate of One, Dismiss Ectoplasm, Fabricate, Quintessence, Immovability, Dimensional Anchor, Dimension Door, Dismissal, Freedom of Movement, Mindwipe, Tailor Memory

5th—Recall Agony, Sense Psionics, True Seeing, Incarnate, Major Creation, Matter Rearrangement, Adapt Body, Energy Barrier, Baleful Teleport, Teleport, Teleport Trigger, Catapsi, Metaconcert

6th—Precognition, Remote View Trap, Shield of Prudence, Improved Fabricate, Ablating, Disintegrate, Null Psionics Field, Suspend Life, Banishment, Ethereal Jaunt, Retrieve, Trace Teleport, Aura Alteration, Temporal Acceleration

7th—Sequester, Contingency, Divert Teleport, Power Turning, Reddopsi, Energy Conversion, Etherealness, Phase Door, Plane Shift, Teleport Without Error, Insanity

8th—Foresight, Hypercognition, Recall Death, Mind Store, True Creation, Matter Manipulation, Improved Etherealness, Teleportation Circle, Mind Blank

9th—Metafaculty, Genesis, Dissolution, Affinity Field, True Metabolism, Astral Projection, Probability Travel, Temporal Velocity, Time Regression, Apopsi, Psychic Chirurgery, Timeless Body

To learn or manifest a power, a Time Lord must have an Wisdom score of at least 10 + the power’s level.

Some more feats are covered here: http://www.giantitp.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-300225.html

Also when a human (Rose Tyler) absorbed the power of the TARDIS, she became omnipotent and was able to rewrite history with little to know training or knowledge of the power she had, so it can be inferred that the Time Lords could also use the TARDIS' to become god-like. (see Bad Wolf).

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#11  Edited By Albertphytagoras

Q or Time lords.

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Q can canonically be incapacitated by being trapped inside of comets lol

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Q can canonically be incapacitated by being trapped inside of comets lol

thats not even the worst part as we know that a single Q can be overpowered by other Qs. what is really stupid, is that a transporter beam from the voyager was enough to break Quinn out of the prison comet that was created by other Q to trap one of them.................

everything is possible if the plot demands it............. especially for ST:Voy :P

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Personally, ignoring plot shields and PIS, I would rate them as:

  1. The Q
  2. Time Lords
  3. The Ones
  4. The Ori
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Time Lords tech > Daleks tech = Reality Bomb > > > > > > > > > Q Continuum

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Time Lords tech > Daleks tech = Reality Bomb > > > > > > > > > Q Continuum

This pretty much. Then the Ones and then the Ori.

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@lens_of_truth: agreed. Q.

Q>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everyone else here lol.

LMAO at Q being trapped in a comet, no, never happened. People need to stop lying...

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#18  Edited By The_Imperator

@ratava said:
@adman123 said:

@ratava: Time Lords both T.V., Comics, and Audio books have pretty impressive feats.

i know that they are powerful, but can you show some feats of what they could do against a Q? without prior knowledge or prep? i only watched some of the old episodes and the series from 2005 on till now, so i dont know about comics/audio books feats

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/doctor-who-feats-and-source-thread.298198/

Here's a feat compilation thread. There are three posts on the Time Lords right now, divided up based on content. In Doctor Who, the Time Lords, actually just some individuals without access to Gallifrey itself, were able to take down universe eating entities and bind them. They also have weapons that can one shot universal+ level beings.

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@itachi_totsukablitz: Daleks > Time lords. Time lords only survived because of the Doctor.

The Time Lords were going to destroy all of the Doctor Who multiverse and ascend, killing the Daleks in the process. They were losing because they didn't take it seriously till the end. So they were kind of less than the Daleks, in drive to fight, but tech wise pretty much everything the Daleks used that mattered was stuff they cribbed from the Time Lords.

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@fallingcliffs: Qs are pathetic creatures because they are featless and overrated

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@ flyingcliffs: wrong, lol i dont know why you're trolling every q topic with a flawed, taken out of context video.

The Q stomp everyone else here. Regardless of your hatred for q :P

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@ flyingcliffs: wrong, lol i dont know why you're trolling every q topic with a flawed, taken out of context video.

The Q stomp everyone else here. Regardless of your hatred for q :P

Im not a Q hater, Star Trek is one of my favorite fictional universes and Q is my favorite character of ST. But he is overrated. He have not powerful enough feats.

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Flyingcliffs: To be fair a lot of characters in both Marvel and DC are also overrated...but doesn't alter the fact that Q is still uber powerful and never lost to anyone outside of his own race albeit not easily either. Disagree he has better powerful enough feats and power and omnipotence which is all that matters here. The others do not have this.

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Flyingcliffs: To be fair a lot of characters in both Marvel and DC are also overrated...but doesn't alter the fact that Q is still uber powerful and never lost to anyone outside of his own race albeit not easily either. Disagree he has better powerful enough feats and power and omnipotence which is all that matters here. The others do not have this.

Q is an universe or universe+ level reality warper at the highest interpretation of his feats. And a planet level at the lowest interpretation.

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Q, unless they have access to the glory.

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@flyingcliffs: No, Q is a multiversal omnipotent Godlike Deity that can do anything virtually.

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#31  Edited By Fallingcliffs

Flying cliffs yes he is. Q wins here, accept it and move on please.

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Flying cliffs yes he is. Q wins here, accept it and move on please.

Dude, just stop responding to him. You know the only reason he even does that is to get a rise out of you. Ignore him and he will go away.

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@randomsid: lol you're probably right. I have to tag you in another topic you'll find it funny.

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@fallingcliffs: @randomsid: lol why?

Whatever the Q can do the Time Lords have been proven to do better and more.

The Q aren't omnipotent, far from it. They can become mortal and in fact be killed. Damaging subspace scares them. Time Lords can just destroy the Continuum and make all of them mortal.

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Man. An entire army of Dr Who's.

Now that's scary. I vote Time Lord's.

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#37  Edited By Fallingcliffs

Q are omnipotent or at the very least nigh flying, they win here. They became mortal due to Q's power, only THEY can do such. Nobody else can make them mortal nobody else here that's for damn sure. TL can'd do jack to them, Q existed before time itself as Q states in one show. Can just go back before timelords exist and destroy them.

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Q Continuum, and it's not especially close, either

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Q are omnipotent or at the very least nigh flying, they win here. They became mortal due to Q's power, only THEY can do such. Nobody else can make them mortal nobody else here that's for damn sure. TL can'd do jack to them, Q existed before time itself as Q states in one show. Can just go back before timelords exist and destroy them.

Time Lords have protections against being erased backwards. And they have fought and defeated beings with much better feats than the Q have. Q win by extrapolation, but with just feats they don't have enough to actually defeat the Time Lords AFAIK.

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@The_Imperator: Q existed before everything and are essentially GOD in STU. The Q don't need many feats, though they still have impressive ones from existing in Heaven, bringing back people, changing time, changing space events, existing in various time lines at once. They are unbeatable by anyone other than other Q's.

Q erase the Time Lords, TL aren't omnipotent nor nigh omnipotent the Q are. Q wins

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@The_Imperator: Q existed before everything and are essentially GOD in STU. The Q don't need many feats, though they still have impressive ones from existing in Heaven, bringing back people, changing time, changing space events, existing in various time lines at once. They are unbeatable by anyone other than other Q's.

Q erase the Time Lords, TL aren't omnipotent nor nigh omnipotent the Q are. Q wins

Feats for erasing races that have protection against being erased? All of those things you mentioned Q can do, Time Lords can do as well. And again, Time Lords can defeat beings that have much, much higher showings than the entire Q continuum. If you're going to say how the Q win, at least use feats to back it up. Supposition and just saying they win because no one in Star Trek could equal them isn't really good debating.

Time Lord weapon one shots entities that can eat entire universes:

With a wounded roar, his WarTARDIS materialised. The Master looked across at the holographic scanner, but was momentarily unable to accept what he saw.

The space-time continuum in the vicinity of Earth was alive, a teeming mass of wings, claws and beaks, shining predators ripping, tearing, gorging. Parallel universes and alternate realities, consumed in an instant.

The feast of the Chronovores had begun.

And here is the one shotting of one:

For the briefest of briefest moments the outer plasmic shell of his WarTARDIS became a wormhole, linking a small point in orbit around twenty-first century Earth to another point, in another time and another place.

The Eye of Harmony.

As the Master’s WarTARDIS felt the first warmth of the Eye’s majesty, its topology twisted once more, forming a five dimensional lens that focused the unstoppable might that instantly flooded through the wormhole. An actinic spear arced out across both the space-time continuum and the time vortex – and hit the precise centre of the Chronovores’ vicious flock.

The reaction was immediate. A few Chronovores effectively evaporated under the onslaught, their polydimensional matrices shattering under the impact; many more were caught in the edges of the blast and left injured or dying, their once perfect bodies deformed and broken. But the remainder saw the folly of remaining: with the last vestiges of their dignity wrapped round them like their wings, they took to the time vortex as a single body, a razor-tipped cloud of ivory and-gold hatred vanishing into another realm.

More stuff the Chronovores can do:

The chains snapped. Artemis sat up and flexed her fingers. She smiled a wicked smile at Ace and Pike. ‘Thank you. . . ’ she murmured. ‘Please. . . join me for dinner.’ She snapped her fingers. And the universe stopped

- No Future

‘Never mind that!’ Artemis flicked a nail, and the three of them were standing on the Embankment, the Thames flowing below them. ‘Never say “stop” to a Chronovore, Doctor! It annoys us.’ Pedestrians were stood still, frozen in a moment, and the sunlight had a golden, echoing quality. ‘Individual photons,’ Artemis said, noticing the Time Lord’s interest. ‘Halted. We can only see because I think we should.

- No Future

And I don't have the quotes on hand, but the Time Lord Mortimus captured a Chronovore on his own, bound it, and used it to create new universes to dump the Doctor into (the quote above is the Chronovore he captured once they released it).

Now, in the interest of a fair debate, post some Q feats that compare to this, because these beings are not able to affect Gallifrey through their defenses.

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#42  Edited By Fallingcliffs

Q can destroy universes and plays with it for fun....anyway guess we'll have to agree to disagree, cheers. I'd post them but it would take load of time since most of them are from episode clips not posted outside of a few, already posted some of his higher end feats.

@ The_Imperator:

I have the entire Q collection if I really wanted to I could just upload the parts I refer to but that would take hours and the same people under different names would just repeat themselves anyway...majority in here know Q wins for good reason. Not just about feats since that's not what battles are exclusively about but POWER and what one CAN DO. Q can snap his fingers and go before universe exists, he's existed in heaven which is entirely different plane outside the universe. When have the timelords done this?

Q is no mere "entity" he's an omnipotent deity, big difference.

Nice feats for TL but those enemies of them aren't the Q.

I'll post what Q has done, higher end impressive feats.

Survived the big bang and said to have existed before the known universe existed...

Has admitted the universe and space is theirs to play with like clay, shape it any way they wish as he says to Amanda(the lost Q in one episode)

Can apparently walk in space and aren't remotely effected by the harsh enviroments like it would to most species.

Has existed in multiple timelines and the multiverse at once and in general.

Can and has existed in Heaven and brought back Picard(can bring back people and rewind any specific moment in time thus giving people a second chance)

Can literally suspend, stop and manipulate time on whim.

Has the ability to travel the multiverse as we saw in IDW comics then once the arc is over, he goes back to Picard's universe and timeline.

Can create other Q's by a touch of fingers

Can duplicate himself.

Can teleport/BFR anyone to any where, any time at any place he so chooses ie the Robin Hood and episode where he tests Riker.

Has and can make other lower species a Q a la Riker on whim.

Can't die, has never been harmed or effected by anyone else other than a fellow Q and Q's harming each other takes lots of power and skill that humans and other lower species can't comprehend what so ever.

When war with each other Q were literally causing super novas, galaxy busting damage, explosions in space, black holes etc and general damage to the universe with their war as he explained in the episode with Janeway.

Just to save you time, you're not going to change my mind on this. I am a big sci fi fan and know who dr who, time lords and ST are etc. Yes, they're powerful but just not on Q's level, he's on a whole other level and at the very least the Q are nigh omnipotent if not fully, they take this.

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#43  Edited By Flyingcliffs
@fallingcliffs said:

Q are omnipotent or at the very least nigh flying, they win here. They became mortal due to Q's power, only THEY can do such. Nobody else can make them mortal nobody else here that's for damn sure. TL can'd do jack to them, Q existed before time itself as Q states in one show. Can just go back before timelords exist and destroy them.

Pah Wraithes and Prophets exist outside of time but they can be killed by mortals.

Deep Space Nine - Season 5 - Episode 5 = one of Pah Wraithes was killed by chroniton particles.

DS 9 Season 5 episode 5

If Q can exist outside of universe it doesn't mean that he has universal+ level durability or power.

Both Prophets and Qs are featless weaklings.

Time Lords win, it is a serious stomp.

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After googling and reading posts i'd go with the time lords they have the tech to do this.

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Flyingcliffs:

Pah Wraithes in the show can be, not in the comics.

But nobody's talking about them, Q stomps everyone else here, period.

I already listed proof of Q existing outside time and space in Heaven...the Time Lords can't and never did that so yeah they lose here.

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But nobody's talking about them, Q stomps everyone else here, period.

I already listed proof of Q existing outside time and space in Heaven...the Time Lords can't and never did that so yeah they lose here.

No, you didn't put any proof of anything. There are no video clips, no episode titles, no actual proof.

And again, what evidence do you have that the Q can kill/erase/what have you a civilization that can kill things that have done much more impressive deeds than the Q. I just want to see some actual evidence of how powerful the Q are. Simply being able to exist outside of time and space (which the Time Lords do, Gallifrey is in its own pocket dimension outside of normal universal time and space, just like how the Q's realm is outside normal time and space but still seems to have linearity) doesn't mean anything here.

Q's original appearance even mirrors the original appearance of the Time Lords, both putting the main character on trial :P

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@the_imperator: Q confirmed it himself in a few shows, that's your evidence, like I said too many to post. and as for proof existing outside space and time? Such as heaven?

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Existing in heaven>>>>>>>>>>>>pocket dimension, which Q can also do, they can create their own dimension for fun....

fun fact Q was technically inspired by original Star Trek's Trelane ;) If you want to know who Trelane is he was really in some ways Q's predecessor in the original Star Trek as far as similar type of character entity with insane power but was really a child granted powers by his parents toying with Kirk. Unlike the Q who all have the same power however, then Trelane's species.

At any rate, as I said I will still go Q so no reason to keep this all up.

@clownprinceofcrime1995 curious what you think here, since I know you follow Mxy, Q and other powerful jokesters type characters.

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@the_imperator: Q confirmed it himself in a few shows, that's your evidence, like I said too many to post. and as for proof existing outside space and time? Such as heaven?

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Existing in heaven>>>>>>>>>>>>pocket dimension, which Q can also do, they can create their own dimension for fun....

fun fact Q was technically inspired by original Star Trek's Trelane ;) If you want to know who Trelane is he was really in some ways Q's predecessor in the original Star Trek as far as similar type of character entity with insane power but was really a child granted powers by his parents toying with Kirk. Unlike the Q who all have the same power however, then Trelane's species.

At any rate, as I said I will still go Q so no reason to keep this all up.

@clownprinceofcrime1995 curious what you think here, since I know you follow Mxy, Q and other powerful jokesters type characters.

That isnt a feat. That's a claim from a character that has nothing behind it to mean anything. Anyone can call themselves god if they want. And that feat, of "existing in 'heaven'" doesn't mean anything in a battle scenario. How does that allow the Q to win? You still have not posted any actual evidence that the Q have the power to erase or defeat the Time Lords.

The Time Lords said they were far above species that consider themselves as gods. Does that mean they are above the Q, who are a species that has one of them claim to be god?

I know you are going to argue Q, but I'd like to see some actual evidence from someone (not necessarily you) that the Q are as powerful as they claim. Simple unverifiable claims, or claims that we have to way to get feats for save through pure extrapolation, aren't really good indicators of what someone can do. I want to see some hard, on screen evidence that the Q can do anything to the Time Lords. I've posted evidence of the Time Lords being able to one shot Q level beings.

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#49  Edited By Fallingcliffs

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That isnt a feat. That's a claim from a character that has nothing behind it to mean anything. Anyone can call themselves god if they want. And that feat, of "existing in 'heaven'" doesn't mean anything in a battle scenario. How does that allow the Q to win? You still have not posted any actual evidence that the Q have the power to erase or defeat the Time Lords.

The Time Lords said they were far above species that consider themselves as gods. Does that mean they are above the Q, who are a species that has one of them claim to be god?

I know you are going to argue Q, but I'd like to see some actual evidence from someone (not necessarily you) that the Q are as powerful as they claim. Simple unverifiable claims, or claims that we have to way to get feats for save through pure extrapolation, aren't really good indicators of what someone can do. I want to see some hard, on screen evidence that the Q can do anything to the Time Lords. I've posted evidence of the Time Lords being able to one shot Q level beings.

Yes it is a feat, you denying it or ignoring it doesn't negate the feat. The Q has the power because they're omnipotent, the TL are not. Aside from being in Heaven, and God he also brought back Picard on whim and reset time in that episode....no need for tech like TL uses. Q can just snap their fingers and do anything.

And I know you're going to argue Time lords even though majority don't agree with you, you're flyingcliffs under a different name I don't see the need.

lol Q will one shot TL if anything, better feats and are God of ST.

I'm not going to waste my time posting feats when I have in various Q threads when you wish to ignore them, that case I'll simply ignore you all together. Q wins here, accept it and move on.

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Yes it is a feat, you wish to deny it. The Q has the power because they're omnipotent, the TL are not. Aside from being in Heaven, and God he also brought back Picard on whim and reset time....no need for tech like Dr. Who uses. Q can just snap their fingers and do anything.

And I know you're going to argue Time lords even though majority don't agree with you, you're flyingcliffs under a different name I don't see the need.

lol Q will one shot TL if anything, better feats and are God of ST.

I'm not going to waste my time posting feats when I have in various Q threads when you wish to ignore them, that case I'll simply ignore you all together. Q wins here, accept it and move on.

No, I simply like to argue with feats. If you show me a Q that has done something as impressive as you are claiming, I will concede. It's that simple. I haven't ignored any feats, I just don't want to do your arguing for you. I want to debate based on feats and shown actions of a character or group. If they didn't show they could do it, it shouldn't be used.

At least tell me an episode where the Q got rid of a species that was resistant to reality warping. Where they fought off universe+ level opponents. Where they literally ate entire universes. And if the Q didn't do that, then why do people argue they can do that?

Time Lords killed beings that could eat universes and warp universes. Time Lords anchored causality in the entire Doctor Who setting, and evicted creatures from reality that have multiverse level reality warping.

I'm simply sick of people calling Q omnipotent as if that is a feat. It's not. Nothing in fiction can be omnipotent, because then they would be able to affect reality. The Living Tribunal has better feats than the Q, but he's not omnipotent. Infinity Gauntlet Thanos has better feats than the Q, but he's not omnipotent. Mxyzptlk has better feats than the Q, but he's not omnipotent. Etc. All I want is for someone to show feats that put Q at universe+ level reality warping. Not statements of what they might be able to do, but statements or showings of what they did in the past.

Also, I am not fallingcliffs. Just a heads up ;)

EDIT: Alright, I argue this same thing everytime I see Q debates anywhere on the internet. I'll drop it, I'm not going to convince people. I'm simply of the school that if they didn't ever do it in their setting, than it's stupid to argue they could. But I realize I'm a minority in desiring concrete feats for Q like entities, so I'll just drop this. I'm not going to be able to convince you.