Tien vs Adult Naruto

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Dbz android saga Tien.

  • Morals off.
  • Each have (1) one day prep.
  • No time limit.
  • They stand 2000 feet apart for said battle they would be having here.
  • Win by decap,death or ko.

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Any tien cell saga and after stomps

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#5  Edited By sladerulez

What has Tien done?

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Naruto is faster and physically stronger than Tien.

But Tien have better DC, he is stonger than Saiyan Saga Vegeta that puts him like Planet Buster, Naruto is at least Small Planet level +

I think Naruto wins, there is no feat to suggest that Tien could win Naruto, most of the people think he would win thanks to his DC, but I don't think would be useful. The only way to Tien wins is using his Solar Flare and a full power Kikoho which is strong enough to destroy a planet(I think) But I give that for Naruto, 7/10

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Morals off Tien with prep can just use the Mafuba (he learned it in Dragon Ball).

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@caocao: dbz android saga tien as specified in op.

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Tien low difficulty

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If Tien lands a tri beam he wins. If he uses Mafuba he wins. If it goes to hand to hand combat Naruto could win. It really depends on how strong Tien got.

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@caocao: dbz android saga tien as specified in op.

Ok, thanks. Going with Tien. His Kikoho Canon already pushes even Cell in his second form in the ground.

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Cell saga characters can one shot namek saga final form Frieza after training post future trunks’ warning. Saying tien loses is basically saying naruto can beat android 18 or. SSJ vegeta. Naruto can’t even beat namek Frieza 1 v 1

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Cell saga characters can one shot namek saga final form Frieza after training post future trunks’ warning.

The humans can't do that, at least not without Kienzan or Shin Kikoho.

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@mainjp still above naruto’s level regardless imo

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Tien vaporizes with kikoho or seals him into a jar.

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Tien stomps. His kikoho held back Cell, who is massively stronger than a Frieza who survive a planetary explosion while already half dead

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Naruto spams tien with Bijuu bombs until Tien dies. Tien isn't faster than Naruto nor does he have better reaction times.

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@caocao:

Cool mate,your opinion is noted.

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@jashugan said:

Naruto spams tien with Bijuu bombs until Tien dies. Tien isn't faster than Naruto nor does he have better reaction times.

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Still Naruto.

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#21  Edited By DemonGod_PABLO

Kikoho > any attack naruto has. First form Frieza is a casual planet buster while sitting in a chair. What the hell are biju bombs gonna to a cell saga DBZ character?

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planet buster naruto, the wank never ceazes to amaze

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Without the Kikoho nonsense Tenshinhan doesn’t have any feats beyond the Sayian arc whatsoever.

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#25  Edited By easterlin74

Depends if Tien can land a Kikoho. If not Naruto wins.

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@rickyrck said:

planet buster naruto, the wank never ceazes to amaze

Where do you see this? Why would beating Tien, someone decidedly not planet busting level, mean he's a planet buster?

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@marc_55 said:
@rickyrck said:

planet buster naruto, the wank never ceazes to amaze

Where do you see this? Why would beating Tien, someone decidedly not planet busting level, mean he's a planet buster?

JOVIOLMA called Naruto small planet+.

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@alextheboss: first form Frieza that got stalemated by namek saga vegeta ? Tien would stomp first form Frieza

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#29  Edited By alextheboss

@demongod_pablo:

1. Frieza was holding back on Vegeta. He only transformed because Vegeta asked him to.

2. Who says Tien is stronger than namek saga Vegeta? Besides filler there is no proof he surpassed the Ginyu force.

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The way Tien has been written as of late, who couldn't beat him?

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@alextheboss: the fact tien could even graze semi perfect cell is enough. We already seen that if you’re too weak your attack won’t do anything to your opponent. You have to be somewhere near in power to do damage. Cell was average in strength in his first form then he absorbed 18 who embarrassed SSJ vegeta btw. You think first form Frieza could subdue cell the way tien did? Also Higher KI mean higher all around stats, if you raise your KI that’s mean higher DC, Durability, Strength, Speed, etc.

If we’re going strictly by feats end of DB piccolo has a better DC feat then Tien does.

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#32  Edited By iUseMyCajonas

@demongod_pablo said:

@alextheboss: the fact tien could even graze semi perfect cell is enough. We already seen that if you’re too weak your attack won’t do anything to your opponent. You have to be somewhere near in power to do damage. Cell was average in strength in his first form then he absorbed 18 who embarrassed SSJ vegeta btw. You think first form Frieza could subdue cell the way tien did? Also Higher KI mean higher all around stats, if you raise your KI that’s mean higher DC, Durability, Strength, Speed, etc.

If we’re going strictly by feats end of DB piccolo has a better DC feat then Tien does.

Tri Beam doesn't even use Ki, dude.

And the second bolded part has already been proven wrong within the series itself.

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#33  Edited By DemonGod_PABLO
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@iusemycajonas: never said it did.

The only reason Tien could graze Cell was because of the Tri-Beam. So him grazing Cell has absolutely nothing to do with his power level or the amount of Ki he has. That attack is a completely different function to almost everything in Z.

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@demongod_pablo: So is that why the androids handed Tien his ass? The androids couldn't even touch first form Cell, who was equal with 16, and 16 couldn't event hurt semi perfect Cell.

So that means Tien<<<<androids<<first form Cell/16<<semi perfect Cell.

Your same argument could be used to say Tien should of been able to beat 17 and 18.

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@iusemycajonas: tien training is the reason he could hurt cell. He became an all around stronger fighter compared to namek saga characters. Never said Related KI to his tri beams tho

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#37  Edited By iUseMyCajonas

@demongod_pablo said:

@iusemycajonas: tien training is the reason he could hurt cell. He became an all around stronger fighter compared to namek saga characters. Never said Related KI to his tri beams tho

No. Tien training his Tri-Beam, not his body, which couldn't have advanced much further than when he got destroyed by the androids, is what allowed him to hurt Cell. Nothing else in Tien's arsenal could've done any damage to Cell unless it was also using life energy, and you can't surround yourself in life energy to fight the same way you can with Ki.

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@mainjp said:
@marc_55 said:
@rickyrck said:

planet buster naruto, the wank never ceazes to amaze

Where do you see this? Why would beating Tien, someone decidedly not planet busting level, mean he's a planet buster?

JOVIOLMA called Naruto small planet+.

That doesn't answer my question. Being small planet level =/= planet busting.

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@alextheboss: he should’ve IMO. Similar to how Kami fused piccolo fought Android 17

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#40  Edited By MainJP
@marc_55 said:

That doesn't answer my question. Being small planet level =/= planet busting.

I assumed that's the comment he was referring to.

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@mainjp said:

I assumed that's the comment he was referring to.

I'd figure it was, but that's a comprehension problem on his part.

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@iusemycajonas: Ki is life energy, Kikoho uses ki just like every attack but uses so much of it that it hurts the user. Similar to mafuba, kaioken or final explosion. There is no difference between ki and life energy.

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@gaoron said:

@iusemycajonas: Ki is life energy, Kikoho uses ki just like every attack but uses so much of it that it hurts the user. Similar to mafuba, kaioken or final explosion. There is no difference between ki and life energy.

You're right and it's weird that they specifically say Tri Beam drains life force and never say it drains Ki, lol. Even in the games it takes away from hp and not ki. Weird.

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@iusemycajonas: The "Chi Cannon"... a move of enormous destructive force... many times more powerful than even a Kamehameha... its power is so colossal, in fact, that the drain on one's own energy is devastating... warriors have been known to die by using it... and even if one survives, one's life is shortened... that evil Tsuru-sen'nin... teaching him a move that should be never taught.

Thats what Roshi said about kikoho, there is no such thing as life energy because ki is just that, a life energy. Seperating life force and ki was made up by dub.

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@gaoron said:

@iusemycajonas: The "Chi Cannon"... a move of enormous destructive force... many times more powerful than even a Kamehameha... its power is so colossal, in fact, that the drain on one's own energy is devastating... warriors have been known to die by using it... and even if one survives, one's life is shortened... that evil Tsuru-sen'nin... teaching him a move that should be never taught.

Thats what Roshi said about kikoho, there is no such thing as life energy because ki is just that, a life energy. Seperating life force and ki was made up by dub.

even weirder he didn't just incinerate the androids with that move lmao

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#46  Edited By alextheboss

@demongod_pablo: Piccolo was leagues ahead of Tien even before fusing with Kami.

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@rickyrck said:

planet buster naruto, the wank never ceazes to amaze

Naruto isn't a planet buster, but neither is Tien.

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@alextheboss:

What buster level do u consider naruto? Just asking.

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@elderelijah190: Probably around country level in DC, possibly continent to moon level, but that would be his the max I would put him at.

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@alextheboss:

You're most certainly right,just were i would personally place him at.

What level do u consider tien with the scaling and feat he holds?