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Couldn't Protege take Thought Robots powers while maintaining the powers drained from all the marvel cosmics?...
Even if Protege could drain and copy TR power that TR can adapt to anything, He can't drain/copy Superman's "story" which power TR and make TR immensely strong. It is metafictional and Grant morrison implied in story and his interview that the story of Superman is beyond even comic industry and writer,TR Superman is powerd by it's story. so Protage can neither drain it nor copy it.The core of TR is very story of Superman which resemble own stories. As Superman said in Superman Beyond, TR Superman is Self-resembling meta-textual Deus ex Machina to bring back "Happy end".
It was because Mandrakk is embodiment of metafictional grim and gritty and nihilistic movement aka BAD-END around comic culture and even culture itself that Mandrakk could damage TRSuperman.
It is originally very metafictional and meta-conceptual battle between TR Superman and Mandrakk. They didn't fight at who is stronger style. They fought at which story they embodies are bigger and greater. No matter powerful character is in "set", It is meaningless.
If you want to know more about TR Superman, You had better read Final crisis and Superman Beyond 3D.You will understand why Superman Beyond is 3D.
What is your basis?
Without story and the power which make s TR adapt to everything, TR Superman is bigger than Limbo,God sphere,Orrery of worlds which hold infinite number of multiverse ,combined.
I didn't know that Odin could be easily omniversal.
Even if Protege could drain and copy TR power that TR can adapt to anything, He can't drain/copy Superman's "story" which power TR and make TR immensely strong. It is metafictional and Grant morrison implied in story and his interview that the story of Superman is beyond even comic industry and writer,TR Superman is powerd by it's story. so Protage can neither drain it nor copy it.The core of TR is very story of Superman which resemble own stories. As Superman said in Superman Beyond, TR Superman is Self-resembling meta-textual Deus ex Machina to bring back "Happy end".
It was because Mandrakk is embodiment of metafictional grim and gritty and nihilistic movement aka BAD-END around comic culture and even culture itself that Mandrakk could damage TRSuperman.
It is originally very metafictional and meta-conceptual battle between TR Superman and Mandrakk. They didn't fight at who is stronger style. They fought at which story they embodies are bigger and greater. No matter powerful character is in "set", It is meaningless.
If you want to know more about TR Superman, You had better read Final crisis and Superman Beyond 3D.You will understand why Superman Beyond is 3D.
What is your basis?
He has no feats putting him above Odin, plain and simple.
Without story and the power which make s TR adapt to everything, TR Superman is bigger than Limbo,God sphere,Orrery of worlds which hold infinite number of multiverse ,combined
First: DC Multiverse is nof infinite, not even close, it only has 52 Universes.
Second: He doesn't seem to be big, in fact here is how big are Monitors in comparison to humans and Superman :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/4928832-countdown+51-25.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/4928843-countdown+43-04.jpg
And here is how big Monitors are in comparison to TR :
And here is how big Mandrakk in comparison to TR :
And here is how big is Mandrakk in comparison to Superman :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/4928893-final+crisis+007-023.jpg
If you compare them you can clearly that TR is not bigger than Multiverse, he is only 2-3 times bigger than humans.
I didn't know that Odin could be easily omniversal.
TR....Omniversal!?
TR got rekt by featless Mandrakk, the same Mandrakk got rekt by Green Lanterns, who are nowhere near Omniversal.
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/4928903-final+crisis+007-026.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11122/111229114/4928904-final+crisis+007-027.jpg
Protege stomps.
TR is not even above Odin.
The problem I have with thought robot is he has nofeats.. I mean mandrak is as ooverrated as nekron, so I don't see how he wins?.. Has he did anything other than final crisis?
Thought Robot and Mandrakk do have feats.
Check out this respect thread:
@the_caped_crusader: I have read final crisis 3 times. I know what they did during that. Its over stated what mandrak did but that is not really important for the discussion. I was wondering if thought robot ever appeared again ? BTW I am not arguing for protege either. They are both plot devices.
@amami: I have it but haven't touched it yet. Lol
@mazeraiii: troll fail. You and pr0d1gy seem to always be wrong. You misinterpret feats and scans and use them out of context and talk about stories which you don't know very well. Protege was defeated rather easily in the end.
TR has plenty of feats you are just ignorant of them. He has at least as many as Protege.
To say TR is below Odin... I don't see how you feel credible.
@the_caped_crusader: I have read final crisis 3 times. I know what they did during that. Its over stated what mandrak did but that is not really important for the discussion. I was wondering if thought robot ever appeared again ? BTW I am not arguing for protege either. They are both plot devices.
Read the thread. I updated it.
The last scan of the comic said "To be continued", but to my knowledge, they haven't continued it.
@mazeraiii: troll fail. You and pr0d1gy seem to always be wrong. You misinterpret feats and scans and use them out of context and talk about stories which you don't know very well. Protege was defeated rather easily in the end.
TR has plenty of feats you are just ignorant of them. He has at least as many as Protege.
To say TR is below Odin... I don't see how you feel credible.
Provide feats and some scans. Don't let your mouth do the arguing.
@pr0d1gy: I have many times on this site. So many times. It gets old. There are many scans online. I dont need to play this game.
One of you guys said TR is barely larger than human. Seriously you did not even read the arc. TR is beyond multiversal. Fact. IE the 52 multiverses were each basketball sized compared to him.
Why don't you provide scans for once?
First: DC Multiverse is nof infinite, not even close, it only has 52 Universes.
It is appearent from your statement that You don't read even DC comics.
Multiversity and Convergence showed that Infinite Universe are back in Local multiverse and infinite multiverse is within orrery of the worlds and Orrery of worlds hold even Hypertime which hold infinite number of multiverse.
Second: He doesn't seem to be big, in fact here is how big are Monitors in comparison to humans and Superman :
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/3/30874/4009954-3438147648-DC-Co.jpg
This Map show that God Sphere hold Orrery of worlds where It was implied in Convergence that it hold even infinite number of multiverse=Hypertime, Limbo is above God Sphere, Monitor Sphere hold God sphere and Limbo. Only it proves that you have not read it.
And,Refference about Monitor Ship said that Monitor Ship is immensely big, but They are only nano-machines made by Monitors and microscopic in Monitor realm.
This statement proves that Monitor Sphere is far bigger than Orrery of The world and Monitor only become small in multiverse. So your reasoning is very irrelevant.
In the first place, TR SUperman hold Limbo and Multiverse in his finger.
TR....Omniversal!?
TR got rekt by featless Mandrakk, the same Mandrakk got rekt by Green Lanterns, who are nowhere near Omniversal.
Only it proves that you have not even read Final Crisis.
As I and other people already proved, TR and Mandrakk fought at highest plane of existence in DC entire cosmology.
And Secondly, Mandrakk defeated by Green Lantern is Rox Ogama who is not Dax Novu aka Original Mandrakk.
And Ogama was alredy weakend to extreme level by "Miracle Machine" which bring metafictional "Happy End". Happy End Defeated Bad End aka Mandrakk. So Mandrakk was alredy defeated before Hal did it. It is apparently written in stories. It proves that You don't even read Final Crisis.
@darthaznable:
Oh , You don’t know what you’re missing.
You should read Final Crisis and Superman Beyond 3D.
I think that It is masterpiece.
Protege should win.
He/she has better feats and better enemies. Thought Robot has plot manipulation abilities. But it is joke abilities like Toon Force and Omniversal manipulation.
"Protege one shots these bad clown" as someone said.
The thought robot is a self assembled hyper story which exists in the monitor sphere, the highest of infinite dimensions. He can instantly adapt to counter any threat. The Protégé was beaten by the Living Tribunal and Scathan the Approver after he mimicked Tribunal. If this is pre Tribunal Protégé TR stomps, if this is post tribunal Protégé, he should have the upper hand, as Tribunal is the embodiment of the Marvel multiverse.
@nemesisreloaded: Can Portege beat 4D being?
@nemesisreloaded: Can Portege beat 4D being?
No idea, I'm not familiar with either of them I'm afraid
@galactic_1000 said:
@nemesisreloaded: Can Portege beat 4D being?
Living Tribunal is a 11D being and yet Protege copied his powers easily.
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