Thought Robot and Mandrakk vs Pralaya and Perpetua

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Who wins ?

Perpetua spanks her children.

Either team one solo.

Mandrakk is not Perpetua's child btw. People can't read comics properly smh.

@fyron: The Vertigo boys centainly don't. Either CAS or Mandrakk can solo

Pralaya should solo. Perpetua is a weak link.

Perpetua was literally stated to be the mother of the monitor. The literal scan says it right there.

Either way, Pralaya is above Thought Robot and Mandrakk.

Also, none of these characters are from Vertigo.

You need to bump more Monitor threads. Just a few more will make you feel better when you find more users who ignore all factual data.

Mandrakk solos DC including Perpetua.

Mandrakk solos DC? So then he beats CAS, the Overvoid, Primal Monitor, Lucifer, Michael, Presence, Pralaya, Perpetua, etc?

Also, why didn't you tag me bro? I thought we were BFF's...

@bdelloidgrain2: Stop defending shit that is vertigo

@michaeljulius: you too

Monitors are crap

@atyy: None of these characters are Vertigo though...

@atyy: curious why is it shit

@bdelloidgrain2: I am taking in general

I support what I believe in. What's wrong with doing that?

@bdelloidgrain2: so you believe in drawings cool

No. I believe that Lucifer and Michael are stronger than Thought Robot. I believe that Pralaya and Perpetua are stronger than Thought Robot. That's what I believe.

^^^better than believing in WW3

In a democratic society, people are entitled to freedom of speech. So I am entitled to state my opinion. If you don't like it, that's fine. But you seem to not like a lot of things.

Agreed!

@fyron:

Vertigo wankers don't read comics.

They ignore every stuff that they don't want to accept.

Off course, they don't read only DC comics but Vertigo comic.

@bdelloidgrain2: ...... lol

Again, none of these characters are Vertigo...

@atyy said:

Ok?

@bdelloidgrain2:

It doesn't change the fact you don't even read comics.

I have been reading DC main lines.

@einefaust: I do read comics. A lot of them. And I enjoy them.

@bdelloidgrain2:

It is dubious because you don't read even Doomsdayclock,Infinite Crisis,Final Crisis,Multiversity,etc.

@einefaust: I did read them. But we've already been over this. Morrison is not > everyone else. His word is not law. Or absolute.

@bdelloidgrain2:

Oh…You can't tell Morrison from Geoff Johns.

Final Crisis was Morrison.

Geoff wrote Three legions and helped write all of final crisis. Lol...we have thing thing called Google. It's great. Try using it sometime.

Pralaya

Team 2. Each one should be able to solo based on the Monitor meta lore. Pralaya is the void personified therefore she should be above Mandrakk who came from the Void.

Perpetua tore parts of the Overvoid to create the monitors, meaning she should be able to tear into Mandrakk and the Overvoid is superior to him.

@bdelloidgrain2:

Doomsdayclock is written by Geoff Johns.

@rijehu:

Void is not "Overvoid" aka Page itself.

BTW, Do you understand that everything in DC is confirmed to be byproduct of the idea of Superman?

Geoff Johns/Grant Morrison confirms it.

@einefaust: The Void and the Overvoid have been referenced and used interchangeably in solely DC comics especially in the latest JL run.

Not sure what that has to do with this fight. The idea of Superman is still etched on the Overvoid and Perpetua can tear from it.

@rijehu:

What are you saying?

DeMatteis himself confirms that he know nothing about Overvoid.

And,Perpetua is only byproduct of metaverse and Superman's infinite expansion.

It is confirmed fact written in Doomsdayclock.

@einefaust: pretty sure he is talking about when superman forger an Morrison refer it to that

@y3kthunder:

Do you understand that Snyder cosmology is only small part of entire DC cosmology and process of infinite expansion of metaverse?

And, It is confirmed that literally everything in DC comes from the idea of Superman.

Is is so difficult to undrstand?

Yes I understand that snyders cosmology is caused by the metaverse. So you understand that in doomsday clock that Manhattan states the multiverse happened to changes to that universe an the only reason an the only reason superman had to do with it is because he symbolized hope an why does he? Because despair of the endless said so

@y3kthunder:

What are you saying?

Superman is symbol of hope because he is the first Superhero and singularity of superhero genre.

And, everything in DC comes from Superman and hope he embodies.

It is not because Despair of Endless said so.

@einefaust: actually according to endless nights thats the exact reason despair convince supermans sun to create a planet that would die an only one would survive this boy would become the symbol of hope all this said in said story

@y3kthunder:

You don't understand my point.

Do you understand that everything in DC including Vertigo comes from the idea of Superman?

It is not because Despair said so.

It is only metafictional fact and DC official use metafictional fact as official setting.

Endless including Despair is only byproduct of metaverse's infinite expansion.

https://i.imgur.com/zifPJe8.jpg

See that scan? Above these words superman only happened because despair made it happen she creates hope through despair. Do you not understand that the multiverse first started because the speed force came into being an in doing so created the 1st timeshift. Are you aware according to Manhattan the multiverse happened because of beings making changes to that universe an the only reason why superman was even involved is because he is the symbol of hope. Are you also aware thats only one of many orgin storys to dc because they feel the need to have more of those than you can shake a stick at

2 extensions of Overvoid that can hold all of creation in a jar and view retcon as a flat disk to hold on their fingers

VS.

An agent of the source and some void opposite to the Presence.

Yeah, I’ll put my bet on 2 the extensions of Overvoid. Thought bot and Vampire duo sweep the fodder.

@y3kthunder:

Are you blind?

It has nothing to do with the fact that superman is first DC Superhero and Everything in metaverse comes from Superman.

Don't confuse your headcanon with DC official statement.

As long as DC official confirms that everything in metaverse and DC comes from Superman, The idea of Superman predate Endless who are only byproduct of DC universe.

BTW,Can you understand difference between in-universe stuff and metafictional stuff?

You confused in-universe stuff and your headcanon with metafictional stuff as DC official stuff.

@einefaust: are you? The scan clear cut states superman wouldn't become anything if not for her you dont get it do you the endless are wave functions they exist everywhere including supermans metaverse anything else would ve your own headcannon..

An can you understand meta stuff destiny holds the multiverse in his hand to him all is just storys his book is the script that existence follows again depends on the author

The leviathan holds literally universes that are ment to represent ours

@y3kthunder:

You are based on the in-universe stuff and headcanon that Vertigo predates DC and Superman is the hope because Despair said so.

But, in fact, DC historically predates Vertigo(Vertigo is sub-franchaise of DC) and Everything in DC and Vertigo comes from the idea of Superman because Superman is the first DC Superhero and Everything in modern Superhero genre started with him.

Geoff Johns confirms this fact in his interview

https://www.cbr.com/geoff-johns-doomsday-clock-12-interview-preview/

I don't understand whether you pretend like troll or you are true troll.

@einefaust: better watch yourself thanos has states he gonna pay more attention to this threads so id be careful an again you missed my point from the beggining