Thor beats Surfer because Thor knows how to fight and Surfer considers him a friend. The comics support this.
i think your reading different comics then the rest of us
Full power lvls SS>>>>>>>Thor CURBSTOMP!
Thor beats Surfer because Thor knows how to fight and Surfer considers him a friend. The comics support this.
i think your reading different comics then the rest of us
Full power lvls SS>>>>>>>Thor CURBSTOMP!
In addition ; Thor was wounded in that comic. Still SS fail to beat Thor.
In addition ; Thor was wounded in that comic. Still SS fail to beat Thor.
LOL he wasn't even trying to beat him didn't even want to fight, Thor was hurting himself by attacking Surfer lol feat for feat Thor doesn't even come close to Surfer
In addition ; Thor was wounded in that comic. Still SS fail to beat Thor.
LOL he wasn't even trying to beat him didn't even want to fight,
Nope. It seems he want to... ;
Thor was hurting himself by attacking Surfer lol feat for feat Thor doesn't even come close to Surfer
Thor didn't hurt himself, he just bleed then healed, like SS.
Only difference is SS doesn't bleed, he get warps.
And another Thor vs SS confrontation ;
SS is not superior to Thor.
I already stated that two of their fights involve one of the 2 being amped so I shall present the fair battle.
The first scan Sophia and jcolleto posted is part of the battle Thor and Surfer had on Mars which was interrupted
This is where it changes, Thors victory over Surfer, how it starts
How it ends
Hulk has defeated Thor, but people don't care. Debates here have almost nothing to do with comics anymore, just random power-sets. Disregard the feats you don't like and spam the ones you do.
@green_skaar: And Thor has defeated Hulk, both of which are debatable. Comic fights are still valid in debates and can be used to determine a winner unless its PIS which can be disregarded. However, Thor defeating Surfer is not PIS in the slightest but shows superiority. There's no reason why it cant be held accountable.
Norrin.
This.
Thor is second, Hulk is dead last.
@wolverine08: Read my previous post.
@green_skaar: And Thor has defeated Hulk, both of which are debatable. Comic fights are still valid in debates and can be used to determine a winner unless its PIS which can be disregarded. However, Thor defeating Surfer is not PIS in the slightest but shows superiority. There's no reason why it cant be held accountable.
I was just ranting about users who absolutely refuse to accept when things have actually occurred. There is a lot of them on this board.
@experio: I read it.
@green_skaar: Ah, I see. I'm actually questioning most of them now.
@wolverine08: Did you see the scan were Thor defeated Surfer?
@experio: Did you read Thor and Silver Surfer's last fight under Matt Fraction where Thor was angrily engaging a Norrin who was just trying to calm him down and only got a stalemate?
@wolverine08: Surfer was also angry after Thor bull-rushed Galactus, it was only after he noticed Thor's wounds he held back. But as soon as he stated 'so be it' Surfer was as determined as Thor to win the match. Despite that battle ending in a stalemate, Thor has defeated Surfer without any amp while both were blood-lusted. Surfer has never gained victory over Thor in a one on one fight fairly. As of right now, Thor > Surfer.
@wolverine08: Surfer was also angry after Thor bull-rushed Galactus, it was only after he noticed Thor's wounds he held back. But as soon as he stated 'so be it' Surfer was as determined as Thor to win the match. Despite that battle ending in a stalemate, Thor has defeated Surfer without any amp while both were blood-lusted. Surfer has never gained victory over Thor in a one on one fight fairly. As of right now, Thor > Surfer.
Nope.
@wolverine08: Yep.
@experio: Nope.
IMO (and this is just my opinion) this is Charizard versus Blastoise versus Venusaur.
They're all really powerful in their own way, but they match up differently against each other.
Thor will brawl with Hulk, which is Hulk's forte.
Surfer isn't a warrior like Thor is.
Hulk is physically strong but lacks versatility which Surfer has in spades.
It could go to any of them, but I'd pick Thor if I had to.
@experio: Did you read Thor and Silver Surfer's last fight under Matt Fraction where Thor was angrily engaging a Norrin who was just trying to calm him down and only got a stalemate?
He also forgot to mention, that in the 90s fight, Thor was morals off while Surfer wasn't. Funny how he left that part out.
As for the recent fight under Fraction, I try to forget that fight and arc because it was just painful to read as a fan of both characters. *shudders*
@norrinboltagonprime21: Lol, I feel your pain man. Fraction really went wild(In a bad way), with his Thor run.
@wolverine08: No disrespect mate but Comic fact > Your word.
@stupid_people: Surfer doesn't forget his speed, Thor possesses Mjolnir.
@experio: And?
1. Thor fights nowhere near the speed Mjolnir travels.
2. Mjolnir is what? A few times faster than light? 5 at best? Are expecting that to be fast enough?
1. He was fast enough to head-butt Surfer while his hands were occupied
2. Mjolnir is well above 5 times ftl, it was said to Transend time and space. Certainly too fast for Surfer
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huh?
IMO (and this is just my opinion) this is Charizard versus Blastoise versus Venusaur.
They're all really powerful in their own way, but they match up differently against each other.
Exactly.
@experio: And?
1. Thor fights nowhere near the speed Mjolnir travels.
2. Mjolnir is what? A few times faster than light? 5 at best? Are expecting that to be fast enough?
The speed of the hammer comes from how fast Thor can throw it and it can move fast on its own when it returns to Thor. Its not all about the hammer.
Space and time?
Hmmm, a person who is slow to Wolverine and Captain America headbutting a guy who is MFTL? Sounds totally reasonable.
@dum529001: Alright.
@stupid_people: The hammer goes as fast as its thrown or Thor commands it, which is the same reason people like Storm can dodge it. But when up against guys like Gladiator, Sentry, Surfer etc. The hammer has no problem tagging and doing damage. And I seriously don't think you want to start low balling Thor, as Surfer possesses much more 'PIS' instances.
I already stated that two of their fights involve one of the 2 being amped so I shall present the fair battle.
The first scan Sophia and jcolleto posted is part of the battle Thor and Surfer had on Mars which was interrupted
This is where it changes, Thors victory over Surfer, how it starts
How it ends
@experio: Did you read Thor and Silver Surfer's last fight under Matt Fraction where Thor was angrily engaging a Norrin who was just trying to calm him down and only got a stalemate?
Wolverine08: Are the scans that he's presented in context bc I can't tell seeing as how he only posted the the "convenient parts" where Surfer is getting hit. Also, SS doesn't even look like he's even visibly injured in their most recent battle so does that even count as a win for Thor?
The comic where Thor wins is Silver Surfer vol.3 #86.
I'm kinda offended you don't trust me.
@experio: Yes it does tag. But show me once where it hit a serious Surfer level character while using his speed effectively. Every fight they have ever had, even when serious, was MUCH slower than he has shown himself to be.
The comic where Thor wins is Silver Surfer vol.3 #86.
I'm kinda offended you don't trust me.
You only posted the parts where Surfer is getting hit or getting up from getting knocked down. You didn't post all of the scans for those fights which usually provide context as well. Without context, how can I trust your stance?
@stupid_people: Or, is because Norrin didn't have time to dodge which is a suitable explanation cause the hammer has superior speed feats.
@carter_esque: Memory about the events is kind of foggy, but I do see why you'd think they'd be out of context. I'm sure Killemall can shine light on the incidents
The comic where Thor wins is Silver Surfer vol.3 #86.
I'm kinda offended you don't trust me.
You only posted the parts where Surfer is getting hit or getting up from getting knocked down. You didn't post all of the scans for those fights which usually provide context as well. Without context, how can I trust your stance?
He forgot to mention that fight was between a morals off Thor and a morals on Surfer.
@carter_esque: No worries, the full battle was posted by Erkan12, scroll up to post 204
IMO (and this is just my opinion) this is Charizard versus Blastoise versus Venusaur.
They're all really powerful in their own way, but they match up differently against each other.
Exactly.
Wrong. Thor has legitimately beaten the Hulk more times on panel. The Hulk has only beaten Thor when Mjolnir hasn't been in his hand. Even though Hulk possesses more brute strength, Thor's durability is off the charts and his offensive arsenal is way too versatile. I hate admitting it too bc I'm a huge supporter of Hulk and I've never really cared for Thor.
No. If SS is using the full extent of his potential (which he hasn't on panel) then I'm confident that he'd stomp base-level Thor every time.
Thor beats Surfer because Thor knows how to fight and Surfer considers him a friend. The comics support this.
i think your reading different comics then the rest of us
Full power lvls SS>>>>>>>Thor CURBSTOMP!
That is quite the statement, can you actually try to prove other than showing Silver Surfer's surfboard sending Thor hurling?
@norrinboltagonprime21: Incorrect, both were blood-lusted.
@experio: Really?
I could post his light-years in seconds travel feats for speed blitzing but im sure you've seen them.
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